WA-08: Reichert leading Burner by six points among likely voters

by: northcountry

Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 12:34


The most troubling aspect for Burner is that Reichert leads among independents by 13 points and that she holds only a 2 point lead among women. Reichert holds a 15 point lead among men and Burner also trails Reichert by 3 percentage points among likely voters ages 18-35.

There are no suprises in Reichert's lead among regular church goers (Reichert 64%, Burner 31%) and among the anti-choice crowd (Reichert 79%, Burner 18%).

WA-08 SurveyUSA Poll

However, this is a poll of likely voters currently registered in Washington State. As we all know, this is a year of record turnouts in primaries and caucuses across the country.  

northcountry :: WA-08: Reichert leading Burner by six points among likely voters
Youth turnout doubled from 2004 - 2008 nationwide and Washington State shattered their caucus attendance records with a turnout of  244,458 attendees, up from 100,000 in 2004!

It's quite possible that Aristotle's voter data file, which was used by SUSA in this survey,  does not reflect these new voter turnouts yet, nor does it reflect Burner's 132% cash on hand advantage over Reichert. ($921,615 for Burner vs. 698,035 for Reichert). Both are dead even in cash raised to date ($1,396,631 for Burner to $1,370,991 for Reichert).

What does concern me about this poll and Burner's strength in the district overall are her ties to the district.  There's no doubt that Darcy Burner is a well qualified candidate and would be an excellent congresswoman.  But she's only been in the district for 10 years and is running against an incumbent who's lived his whole life in Washington State and has worked for the King County Sheriff's department since 1972.

This slightly mirrors the situation with the democratic candidate in MN-03. There you have an outstanding campaigner who moved into the district last fall when the popular sixteen year incumbent announced his retirement and beat two sitting elected officials in the DFL endorsing contest. But it raises the question - can a single 30 year old renter connect with a general electorate that owns homes, have children and work full-time along a congested corridor for some of America's best known Fortune 500s?

NJ-07 is a different story. They are currently represented by a retiring congressman who was in search of a home in 2000.  Mike Ferguson was able to parlay Bush's victory into a solid win over a divided democratic party in his congressional race. Ferguson also had the backing of an influential conservative religious movement and a national conservative catholic political movement.  The interesting dynamic in NJ-07 this year however, is two home grown candidates who have at times been at odds with their respective parties facing off against each other.

And that's the rub, to what extent is all politics local? To what extent does community trump ideology, even in a year when there is a clear failure of the governing party's ideology?  And what does this mean for progressive and democratic candidates?   Can Burner's cash, ideas, and business experience trump a local good old boy in a race for congress?

I think the plus for congressional democrats this year is that we've been training organizers as part of the 50 state strategy for the last 3 years.  We're coming off a series of upset special election victories in very improbable locations and are flush with cash. Gas prices are at record highs and the credit freeze is extending into student loans.  If ever there was a time for ideas and change to trump local ties in a congressional or local race, now is it.

What do you think?  


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Couple of points (0.00 / 0)
That sucks about the Burner poll. I hope she can turn it around. I'd like to think you're right about increased turnout, but I don't know how Survey USA calculates likely voters. They're a pretty good polling outfit, so I'd be surprised if they weren't taking that stuff into account.

In terms of whether politics is local, I think you have a good point. If Burner can make the race about national politics, she'll likely win. At the same time though, many, many people in the district also arrived in the last 10 years for work in the tech industry. Bellevue (the biggest city in the district) is rapidly growing, with a lot of people coming from Seattle and all over the world. Reichert may represent the old King County, but Burner's bio is similar to a lot of people in the district.

That polling sucks, though.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


The sample was 900 (0.00 / 0)
drawn from Aristotle and the likely voters calculated out of that was 679.  So even if SUSA has the best methodology- and I'm not that familar with it - they are still relying on someone else's database and data collection.

Issue with new voters might lie with Aristotle not SUSA - if there is one.

You're right on the demographic changes and newcomers to the district.  Similar siutations in MN-03 and NJ-07.  But there's always an old guard of people who've been in the district a long time and newcomers who have bought into a district for particular reasons.

The other possibility for the gap is that Reichert has outspent Burner to date in order to butress his position as the incumbent.

In a D+2 district however, six points the other way is a lot of ground you're giving up.  


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old vs new (4.00 / 1)
This is the right idea. The harmony for the overarching "change" theme is "new vs old" or "future vs past". This is where the Obama/McCain race is already at, and will become even more like this come the late summer/fall when debates start.

The opposite frame of "experience vs inexperience" is also effective, and already being deployed by Reichert (and McCain). However, it's not what the country is looking for. To recycle an old phrase, "It's the 82% wrong-track, stupid." That's a national number, but it surely has local resonance. If Bruner (and Obama) can counter the experience frame head on with, "Look, do you want change or more of the same?" and couple it to some specifics (local specifics for Bruner), they should be able to pull (further?) ahead in the fall when people really tune-in.

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It's "Burner" (n/m) (0.00 / 0)


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burrrrrrner (0.00 / 0)
I stand corrected.

Maybe that can help lock-in the freak vote.

:)

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Time in district is not an issue (0.00 / 0)
I don't see her 10 years in the district as being an issue.  It has never come up, and given her young age, it isn't something people will focus on.

The point about the demographics changing with people moving into the district is a good one.  A lot of people here are new to the district.

It really will come down to Party affiliation and turnout.  Reichert has been trying to run to the middle and away from being damned by association with the Republican Party.  His bet is Republicans will still vote for him to keep Burner out and he'll pick up Independent voters.  The poll shows he does well with them at this time.  At the same time they will paint Burner as extreme left, which she isn't and which her positions on the issues are not.  That and the "inexperience" meme will be their primary approach.

Keep in mind that he has been spending a lot of money sending franked mailings to constituents touting his record, while Burner has only been communicating with her base so far.  Once the TV advertising begins and she is able to communicate with non-partisan voters her numbers should improve.  Her fundraising lead therefore has yet to kick in in a way that has affected this race.

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Franked mailing (0.00 / 0)
I should add that some believe he has spent close to a million dollars mailing and printing large glossy franked mail advertisements.  That could be having a bigger effect than usual on how people perceive him.

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Educating voters (4.00 / 1)
The fact that he gets such a large number of pro-Choice voters is a big issue as well.  Reichert is anti-Choice and doesn't even believe women should have access to birth control!  Those pro-Choice voters who chose Reichert probably don't realize that.

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Good points (0.00 / 0)
The franking privelge is very powerful and Reichert's in his second term, he has the power of incumbency on his side.  I assume he's been using congressional mail and $$ for the franks.  What else has he been spending his money on? Is he doing direct mail as well as franks?  Radio? Any TV yet? He's spent $698,035 as of last quarter.

Reichert holds a 13 point lead among independents right now. How much of that lead do you think Burner can eat into? What's the issue in WA-08 that will crack that lead among independents?


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I see you answered some of my questions already! (0.00 / 0)


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Gotta be the war (0.00 / 0)
"What's the issue in WA-08 that will crack that lead among independents?"

His 100% support of Bush on the war.

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Also, this is bizarre: (0.00 / 0)
Reichert leads by 8 among voters age 18 to 49, by 3 among voters age 50+.
The breakdown actually has Reichert leading in the 18-34 demo. That's really bad news, and I wonder if there's a way she can turn it around.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

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