Why No to VP?

by: QueenTiye

Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 11:36


One by one they fall. In watching the VP media chatter, I've been struck by the number of people insisting that they don't want to be vice president.

The conventional wisdom on the subject suggests that this is just standard practice - say you don't want the job to be polite (if so, it's a stupid practice.  Sorta like saying no thank you to food when you are in fact, hungry.  Your host just might take you at your word...).  But some politicians have really gone out of the way to be written off. The entire Virginia delegation seems to be quite content where they are, as is Gore and as is Edwards.  In fact, I only remember 3 politicians going against this bit of conventional wisdom - Biden, Clinton, and Hagel.  

This diary is really an open question.  What the heck is going on? Are there reasons why someone would legitimately NOT want to serve as Vice President?  I can think of a few. For instance, I don't think Hillary should want or accept the Vice Presidency.  I think it undersells her talents.  I can see Gore and Edwards not wanting the post - Edwards because he already ran as VP and might not want to do it again (and then the fact that his wife is fighting cancer - I can see him prioritizing home and family), Gore because - been there, done that, and he's bigger than the Vice Presidency at present.  But the Virginia contingent actually worries me, as does the refusal of the role by travelling companion Jack Reed.  Why don't they want the job?

Some cynical part of me thinks that Obama's promising choices are being paid (in money or favors) to sit out, so that someone else will have to be the next choice. Another part of me thinks that white men aren't going to do so well with having a black boss (in this, I appreciate Biden's honesty.  He didn't frame it in terms of black and white - but he DID express an uncertainty about being able to work for ANYONE, having been his own boss for so many years). But thinking more positively - are there other good explanations for people to avoid being Obama's vp?

QT

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I'll give you a couple of reasons. (4.00 / 1)

Flippant reason:  It's like following Elvis, closing for the Beatles or playing on the same basketball court as Michael Jordan; being VP for Obama is a great way to be obscured by a star.

Serious reasons:

  1. Al Gore's loss (well, actually mugging, okay we were all the victims of grand theft) may now have tagged the VP job as an electoral deadend. 
  2. The coming Democratic wave means that things are going to be happening.  Being VP would mean sitting out what could be some of the most productive and interesting years a Democratic politician could ever have.


John McCain thinks we haven't spent enough time in Iraq

LOL! You could have a point (0.00 / 0)
about people not wanting to be in O's shadow.

And I thought about the job-satisfaction angle. That seems to be the case with the Virginia delegation. OTOH, it seems like, in the wake of the Cheney Vice Presidency, being Vice President of during a democratic sweep has the potential to be a high impact job, especially for a guy or gal who otherwise isn't yet on the national scene.  

(Btw, I'd posted a long reply earlier, but the computer gremlins ate it.  So now this is a shorter one...)

QT

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Sorry I missed the long reply. (0.00 / 0)

I think- hope -  the Cheney vice-presidency is going to be one-off exception, based on the unique combination that is Bush and Cheney.  Bush's lack of interest and expertise left  the vacuum that Cheney filled.  That's just not going to be true of a Pres. Obama.

 Your point about a politician who isn't yet on the national scene is well taken; a lt-governor or  low-ranking US Rep would probably be interested, but so far everyone on the short list has been much more prominent.



John McCain thinks we haven't spent enough time in Iraq

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I don't think genies can be put back in bottles (0.00 / 0)
so I think that the Cheney vice presidency has permanently altered the role.  I think THAT is why, to a large extent, Obama is talking about someone he gets along with.  That didn't always have to matter, but Obama is clearly looking for someone who will be his right-hand wo/man. Trust factor is high, because the vice presidency is now more of a co-presidency than it had been.

Hmm.  I wonder if that argues against my original claim that Hillary would be wasted in the role?

QT

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