Extractive Industry States: Progressives Versus Blue Dogs

by: Matt Stoller

Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 11:36


I'm intrigued by the recent appearance of progressive Democrats in states like Alaska, Montana, Virginia, Ohio, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kentucky and Texas.  Texas Senate candidate Rick Noriega's appearance on Firedoglake illustrates that this guy is progressive and forward-looking, but not a coastal liberal.  That's true with Sherrod Brown as well, who recently told off the DLC, and to a lesser extent, Jon Tester and Jim Webb.  What unifies these states is that they all contain extractive industries, either coal or oil.  They are like America's OPEC, with the inherent corruption that such resource intensive regions imply, so it is not an accident that Democrats tend to be elected in these states on anti-corruption platforms like that which sunk Conrad Burns in Montana. 

These states all have a direct interest in the current fossil fuel and resource extraction economy, with all the subsidies that implies.  They are the natural home of the Blue Dogs and people like Dick Gephardt Democrats.  Southern extractive states rely much more on military and aerospace expenditures and as such have become more right-wing in recent years, whereas Western states have ranching and farming and a stronger legacy of environmentalism and libertarianism. 

Coal cuts through extractive states, and is enormously powerful.  This Grist interview with Senator Clinton on coal should give you a sense of how much of a role it plays.

What role will coal play in your plan?

I think we have got to take a hard look at clean coal. I have advocated carbon sequestration, I have advocated power plants looking for ways to use coal more cleanly and efficiently. I doubt very much that using coal in liquid form for transportation could ever pass the environmental test, but I am willing to do the research to prove one way or another.

The political pressure [to use coal] will remain intense, and I think you have got to admit that coal -- of which we have a great and abundant supply in America -- is not going away.

Freshmen Democrats Charlie Wilson, Zack Space, and Chris Carney are all proposing 'clean coal' expansions.  Now, clean coal as a technology doesn't exist, but these people are pushing it for political reasons.  That's a very bad thing for a progressive coalition.

As we think through how to get progressive Democrats elected in extractive industry states, we need to figure out how to elect people who will be able to move their states off of the fossil fuel energy basis.  I asked Rick Noriega about this, and here's what he said.

Second, you are right. Our state depends a lot on the energy industry to drive our economy. As long as we have to burn things to produce things in Texas, we've got to push clean burning natural gas. We've got to push new technologies and innovations. Texas has to lead the way in this arena or else we will become the next rust belt.

There are models here.  Lots of people in these states don't benefit from the fossil fuel economy, and if they can be registered and turned out that's enough.  These states also have high union densities, though often in extractive industries.  In Texas, it's Latinos, and in Montana, it was young people that put Tester over the top.  The temptation is, as it was in Indiana where we picked up three Blue Dogs, to play to the conservative corporate instincts that eventually brings in coal money and shreds our Constitution.

I'm curious if you have any thoughts or comments on the politics of extractive industrial regions.  I'm just starting to learn about this area.

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Some other states with extractive operations have been moderately left or progressive: Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Minnesota, Michigan & a few similar.

Logging on National Forests & various governmental lands, grazing on public lands of any sort, mining for ores with mineral rights ceded from the public, commercial fishing, "free" water taken from the people's lakes, rivers & navigable streams, etc.

And, as an example, some of these things resulted from other needs.  Hydroelectric power was being, or had been developed, so the aluminum industry located, as part of the overall military-industrial complexity, within specific regions to take advantage of cheap electricity to supply aircraft & ship production.

One other: the mining of uranium ore to supply the nuclear weapon production & electrical powerplants had some major effects in the 50s & 60s, with residual "stuff" now.

It may be that the politics vary, a great deal, depending on whether the industry is unionized & how it is funded; i.e., government, major industrial buyers, banks, other nations, etc.


This (0.00 / 0)
is why we need global warming legislation that generates revenue through either a carbon tax or (my favorite) a carbon auction.

A carbon auction designed to lower our emissions 80% by 2050 will provide a lot of revenue.  If we guarantee that all of that that money gets reinvested in efficiency, subsidizing clean energy, and improving infrastructure it gives us an awfully big carrot.  A guarantee that at least 80% of revenue raised in a given state stays there would do a lot to defuse the faux populism that the extractive industries will try to drum up about ruining [insert State here]'s economy and destroying jobs.

Then you build the necessary coalition.  Like you said, many people in these states aren't involved in the industry.  Add to that an anti-pollution appeal to lower and middle class voters, the promise of job creation and infrastructure projects, some big-picture environmental and anti-corporate rhetoric, and I think there's certainly the potential to beat the extractive industries.

Eventually, ideally, we will build a powerful carbon-free energy lobby, to go toe to toe with coal and oil.  But to do that we need the money to create jobs and profits in solar and wind power.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


I forgot! (0.00 / 0)
Hunters and fishers are a vital part of any non-extractive coalition in the Western states.  I remember reading about some NRA alternatives forming out West that had a conservationist focus.  I haven't heard anything about their development recently, has anyone else?

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

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Have you read Jeff Goodell's 'Big Coal'? (4.00 / 1)
Actually, I haven't either, but his interview on NPR's Fresh Air was great.  It might help in terms of getting a picture of the industry nationally.

In political terms, I'm afraid this one's a long-term project.  My intuition is that coal miner families are often multi-generational and face little or no other career options for the type of union pay they get in extractive industry in the areas in which they live.  However, as Goodell explains, many young people of this generation want nothing to do with the dirty, dangerous career, and the age of the average coal miner is actually pretty old.  The next generation could use more options.  It may sound far-fetched, but boosting education in these rural areas and pushing broadband access may help break the occupational necessities at play here and motivate relocation to areas with more opportunities or motivate the importation of more greener industries to meet the supply of higher-skilled labor.

Other than that, if these miners are given their union pensions that are due to them--and maybe a few years early?--some would probably be happy to retire.

Kicking it in the NY-25.


Your perspective I highly recommend. (0.00 / 0)
We have a mine here in our county, a palladium mine.  Palladium is used for catalytic converters.  It's a union mine.  We also made them sign a ground breaking "Good Neighbor Agreement" wherein their mining operations are monitored.  So these miners are young and quite happy and more prosperous than the town and ranch folk. More broadband access could help them.  And different kinds of jobs for ranchers.  They should raise more wind power and less cattle.  But they need help to put up those expensive turbines.

But other than a few success stories, Montana remains an welfare state or more like a colony.  Very poor for most people with a few big ranchers and farmers taking in big subsidies. And then a lot of rich people like Ted Turner buying up all the ranch land.  The income gap is huge and very noticeable. Montana is  beautiful on the outside, but can be  pretty ugly underneath.  Lots of racism and misogyny.

John Edwards addressed this in his 2004 campaign and is the only one that I've read about that addresses rural problems and solutions outside of the extractive industries.

 


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just a note about extraction states (0.00 / 0)
in contrast to the south, they have the highest percentage of government owned land (most of it is BLM, i believe), sometimes upwards of 50%.  they are also historically used to receiving huge amounts of federal welfare spending through subsidized water/logging/grazing/mineral rights.  ironically, this is partially what leads to the "libertarian" attitude, but it has a certain logic--the more your life (and livelihood) are intertwined with an entity, the more you want that entity to leave you alone and get out of your life (but of course, keep sending the money)...

Shell Oil (0.00 / 0)
What unifies these states is that they all contain extractive industries, either coal or oil.

Let me know if progresssive Jim Webb ever casts a vote against the interests of Shell Oil.


Resource Extraction (0.00 / 0)
Briefly and off the top of my head ...

Natural Resource Extractive Industries break into two parts:

1.  Those that are unsustainable.  There is a finite amount of the resource available and of that some smaller percentage is capable of extraction, e.g., hard rock mining.

2.  Those that are potentially sustainable.  The resource renews itself, in some manner.  Farming immediately springs to mind but also forestry.

One thing these have in common is the total cost of Extraction is not paid by the extractor.  In mining the owners do not pay for the water pollution, long term soil contamination, health affects on the workers (black lung, mercury poisoning, cancers,) and so forth.  In timber we can observe the timber companies creating 'Green Deserts' of mono-plantations, destroying the ecology.  The use of petro-chemical inputs in agriculture create dead zones in (what used to be) off-shore fisheries. 

Another common factor is: The Tragedy of the Commons.  Since most of extractor (by land area) occurs on Public Lands, of one form or another, there is no incentive by the user to maintain sustainability.  Second, the cost of access is minimal and way below market prices. 

A third factor, oversight of the resource, as it is generally Public Land, falls under the 'Absentee Landlord' rubric even as the user is local.  So even IF the local population doesn't like what is happening ... tough noogies. 

Overall the combination of these factors is:

1.  The politicians representing these areas are in obligation to those who greatly benefit from the status quo.

2.  The jobs in these industries are generally the only ones who pay a decent wage.  Thus the workers, and their unions, are generally on the side of unsustainable extraction.

3.  The general level of - let me put it this way - Systematic Awareness in the extraction dependent areas of the US is low.


I think this overcomplicates matters (0.00 / 0)
Sadly, many Democrats favor corporate oligopolies in a wide range of industries.  It's not about whether these industries are extractive or not.

Rep. Howard Berman (Los Angeles) carries water for Big Entertainment with legislation like the DMCA.  Bobby Rush (IL) carries water for the telecom industry, supporting policies such as national video franchising and opposing net neutrality.  Rep. Dingell carries water for the auto industry in opposing fuel economy standards.  Midwestern democrats support farm policy that subsidizes corporate food processors such as Archer Daniels Midland and Cargill.

These politicians support powerful incumbent industries against the public interest, against consumers and against innovation.  Unfortunately, we need to look more broadly than extractive industries to find and oppose corporate-owned democrats.


There are a lot of (0.00 / 0)
extractive states that one often does not think of.

Why does Obama support coal gasification?  I'm sure his campaign is aware of the dangerous consequences, but Illinois is a coal state.

Well, southern Illinois is a coal state.  And much of central and northern Illinois could produce coal again, if the conditions were right for it.

Central and northern Illinois coal is very dirty and is rarely used anymore (I grew up in a town that was born as a coal-mining town - the mines have been shut for at least 60 to 75 years), but southern Illinois still has the higher grade coal.

A lot of small towns in central and northern Illinois are extremely economically depressed.  Reviving coal would go far to revive those towns.

As an Illinoisan, I like the idea of reviving places like my hometown. 

As an environmentalist, I'm strongly against coal gasification.

As a hedging, potential Obama supporter, I'm torn (on this and other issues). 

Coal is a big issue, and if it were somehow possible to make it a viable fuel, it would do wonders for economically depressed places of Illinois that are well outside of the northern Illinois economic centers in Chicago, Peoria and Bloomington-Normal.


I don't know about the idea of "extractive" states. (0.00 / 0)
I think much smarter people like David Sirota, John Edwards, or Barack Obama would argue that the system we have now subsidizes corporate America's extraction of wealth from the middle and working classes.  It seems much of this unsustainable extraction takes place in beautiful, progressive places like New York City, Chicago, Boston, and San Francisco.

These subsidies, often highly corrupt, are often overlooked because they're so built into the tax code and supposed regulation of labor relations and various industries. 

Just a thought.


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