Obama-McCain Polls

by: tremayne

Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:19


There's a new poll by CNN showing a 47-47 tie between Barack Obama and John McCain.  A month ago there was that odd USA Today/Gallup poll showing McCain with a 4-point lead. As Democrats we naturally worry that, well, maybe Obama will join Al Gore and John Kerry in the ranks of "almost" Presidents. So the refrain, Obama please don't suck (catchy tune).

But here's the big picture on the Obama-McCain polling. Pollster.com lists 112 polls between the two since Obama captured the Democratic nomination in early June. It breaks down like this:

Obama ahead: 101

McCain ahead:  6

Ties:  5

Now you might think all those polls showing McCain ahead or tied are very recent but you'd be wrong. The rare non-leading Obama polls go back all the way to mid-June when an ABC poll showed McCain leading by 1 and a Gallup poll later that month showed a tie. There were several in July like that and a few in August. Folks, when a 101 out of 112 polls show you with a lead, even a narrow "within the margin of error" type lead, you are ahead. 

We are at the precipice of potential change in the race with the two conventions going back-to-back over the next 11 days but so far, the situation is a major improvement for Democrats compared to 2004 or 2000. 

Update: An anti-Obama polling theory has been offered that suggests weekend polling hurts him because younger voters are underpolled then. I checked this. There are 16 polls taken mostly on the weekend (2 out of 2 or 2 out of 3 days) and in these Obama averages a 3.3 lead. In 44 polls that include no weekend days he leads by an average of 3.0 points. I don't think weekend polling is the answer but rather the occasional outlying poll you would expect by chance.

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Obama-McCain Polls | 14 comments
Thanks for that (0.00 / 0)
...little bit of perspective.  I don't want to be an Al Giordano-type "chicken little," but I have to admit to more than a handful of head-scratching WTF? moments reading the polls these days.  I guess we don't know much until after the conventions, and the debates begin.

The Wages of Sin is about $5.15 an Hour.

another underperforming weekend poll (0.00 / 0)
doesn't obama always drop over the weekend?  

Does anyone had the crosstabs? .. (0.00 / 0)
and what's with CNN? .. they've been pushing the tied thing for a while now.  I don't believe their polls for a second.  They have a vested interest in keeping this thing close.

It is a drop for Obama from their last poll (0.00 / 0)
They are pushing the idea that people are pissed he didn't pick Hillary for Veep but I'm skeptical. Rasmussen shows opposite movement. The USA Today/Gallup numbers also indicate a turnaround to Obama. But like Crab says above the tie could be because the CNN was taken over the weekend which is seemingly always bad for Obama.  

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USA Today/Gallup (0.00 / 0)
Doesn't their latest result just indicate that their LV model produced an out-of-whack result last month?  If I remember the numbers correctly, their RV results haven't shifted much in the past 3 months, and their LV results from June weren't very different from their new LV results for August.  It was just their July LV result (which showed McCain up 49-45) that was noticeably different from the rest of their own numbers.

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Probably true (0.00 / 0)
But I prefer my narrative!

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Here are those numbers (0.00 / 0)
Apologies if this makeshift "table" has formatting problems:

              RV             LV
June   O 48-42   O 50-44
July    O 47-44   M 49-45
Aug    O 47-43   O 48-45


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To be clear (0.00 / 0)
These are the USA Today/Gallup numbers.

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Yup that makes it pretty clear (0.00 / 0)
They had a screwy LV model last month. Having said that I think it was pretty obvious at the time. Even Newport himself said it was only a "scenario".  

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Hello...it is CNN (4.00 / 2)
pay it no mind. It's an outlier

the msm (pravda of the west) (0.00 / 0)
with just a very few exceptions cannot be trusted with the fourth estate responsibility they have been given to be an unbiased observer and reporter of the news, they have been cheer leading for the right for at least a few election cycles now and are so biased as to be irrelevant as far as reporting the truth and acting as a check on govt power and criminal behavior, and for being the eyes and ears of our democracy which a free press should be protecting if that entity is to survive in these anti-democratic times.

the msm is part of the problem not part of the solution plain and simple.  


Polling Youth Voters (0.00 / 0)
I am sure many people have offered much more informed and thorough analysis, but I want to just mention a few common sense points about the 18-25 crowd.

We all know this group uses cell phones over land lines and get screened out of likely voter polls because of weak voting histories, and this alone is enough to raise concerns that they are an undercounted group. But we should also remember that 18-25 year olds also keep strange hours. Factors such as school schedules, part-time jobs with unusual hours, and active nightlives that often stretch into the early morning all make reaching these voters especially difficult. There is no sure-fire time to reach a 20 year-old on a weekend or a weekday. It is also worth noting that this group has lived their entire lives with caller ID - unlike most traditional households, a young voter is virtually never going to answer a phone without first knowing if the call is known, unknown or restricted. And we all know how that can influence what calls we take and which ones we ignore.


"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra


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