All Palin And The Hurricane

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 17:41


CBS has a new poll out, entirely post-Palin and post-Democratic national convention, that shows Obama ahead 50%-42%, with leaners. The previous CBS poll, conducted in the middle of August, showed Obama only ahead 47%-45% with leaners, so this is a significant jump.

Overall, with leaners includeds, the four polls conducted entirely post-convention and post-Palin show Obama ahead 49.3%--44.8%, versus 46.0%--46.0% in those same four polls conducted before the convention. So far, the combined effect of the Democratic convention and the two Vice-Presidential choices is a 4.5% net gain for Obama. Just as importantly, Obama is now knocking on the door of 50%, and the number of undecideds in the electorate has dropped.

Palin has failed to make a dent in Obama's lead. And now, if anything, McCain is poised to slip back even further. There will be no free media tonight for the McCain campaign, as the prime time speeches at the Republican convention have been cancelled. And, as I explain in the extended entry, it only gets worse for Republicans from there.

Chris Bowers :: All Palin And The Hurricane
While Republicans have canceled tonight's speeches in order to avoid comparisons to the Bush administration around Katrina, every single story on why the speeches are being canceled includes an allusion to the massive Bush administration failure around Hurricane Katrina. Something like this:

Republicans shifted from politics to storm relief when they opened their nominating convention on Monday, shelving the usual glitter and celebration in deference to Hurricane Gustav.

Fearing televised images of Republican festivities would be inappropriate as the storm slammed the Gulf Coast, McCain and his party began a curtailed session focused on formal convention business and appeals for hurricane aid.

So, while Republicans canceled tonight's prime time speeches to avoid looking like the Bush administration around Katrina, there are thousands of stories today reminding everyone of the Bush administration around Katrina, and laying bare the political nature of McCain's motivations for canceling tonight's speeches. As such, the McCain campaign is actually facing more and worse comparisons then they otherwise would have, not less.

Further, in the absence of news on the Republican convention, political news is instead dominated by news of Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter. I am going out on a limb when I say that this probably won't help Republicans as much as one night of uninterrupted free media would have. Even Obama's statement about how Bristol Palin should be "off-limits" actually keeps the story going for a while. People will talk about this story all the way between now and Election Day, which also will be the time when the ethics inquiry on Palin makes its proclamation.

In short, this feels like a bonus convention night for Democrats, when we are already ahead. Our lead is growing, and Republicans face a night of very bad media instead of a convention night. At this rate, Obama should have no difficulty maintaining his lead entering next week.  


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Predictions, anyone? (0.00 / 0)
Who in the corporate media will be the first (only?) to call "opportunism" on McCain if he gives his acceptance speech from the Gulf Coast?  (Olbermann doesn't count.)

Republicans can't fix our country; they're too busy saddlebacking.

I'd guess Chris Matthews (4.00 / 4)
Tweety's got a survival instinct like nobody else. He'll turn on McCain just ahead of all the rest.

That or Joe Scarborough, just to fuck with everybody's mind.

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Naah... (0.00 / 0)

 Chris Matthews' lips are permanently sutured to John McCain's butt. He'll NEVER turn.

 And I doubt anyone outside of KO and Rachel will. The media's just way too heavily invested in McCain.

 But it looks like the public is capable of seeing through the McCain shilling. Let's hope that continues.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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But... How Well Has Palin Vetted Her New Defense Attorney? (4.00 / 3)
That's what I want to know.

These days, it seems like every scandal has another scandal inside it.  Like those Chinese boxes.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


p.s. (4.00 / 5)
I see that Palin is trying to use her new attorney to spy on the ethics investigation against her:

JUNEAU, Alaska -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, has hired a private practice attorney to defend her and members of her staff in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.    

The state Legislature is investigating whether Palin fired Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan after he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister.    

Anchorage attorney Thomas V. Van Flein has requested a copy of all witness statements and documentary evidence from the Legislature's investigator, Stephen Branchflower.    

Sen. Hollis French, an Anchorage Democrat, responded on behalf of Branchflower, saying he instructed Branchflower not to comply with the request.    

In July, a legislative oversight committee approved $100,000 for an investigation into whether Palin abused her power in firing Monegan.

If this were a court case, of course, she'd be entitled to discovery.  But this is a legislative investigation.  The closest analogy to the criminal justice sphere would be the grand jury investigation phase--or even earlier, the initial police investigation phase.  The right to discovery doesn't kick in until after that, and for good reason:  if the criminals could track every step of the preliminary investigations, they'd have a huge advantage in covering their tracks.

This is a totally typical, totally outrageous GOP attempt to turn the process upside down.  Talk about mens rea!  [Latin for "guilty mind," a necessary element of a crime.]

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I think the attorney was just trying to work for the benefit of his client (0.00 / 0)
But the fact he has Gov. Palin as his client is trouble for McCain!

An investigation is one thing, but once politicians start lawyering-up people start suspecting fire from all the smoke.

I do believe McCain may be wishing he got a "do-over."

He always can, but in politics its called an "Eagleton."


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Although... (0.00 / 0)
From a countryclub GOP POV, it's more like a "Bogeyton".

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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I am very heartened to see (0.00 / 0)
Obama starting to bump up against 50%.

Are the polls including Nader and Barr, though?  


In my opinion (4.00 / 4)
Based on polling data I have seen in open-ended questions, along with the general trend of third-parties to poll higher than they actually score at the polls, the most accurate poll would actually ask "Obama, McCain or Someone Else," without being specific.

Not many polls are like that, but it would probably be the most accurate this year.  


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Palin Will Sink McCain (4.00 / 1)
The choice of Palin will go down as one of the worst political decisions ever made.  Her selection points out McCain's and the Republican's shortfalls better then anyone, or they could ever do.

Riddle: What's the difference between, going to war with ginned up intelligence, and selecting a not-vetted, politically expedient running mate?  None.  That's how Republicans do things.


Dare I hope... (4.00 / 4)

 ...that the worst-case scenario for the Republicans might be coming to pass?

 Gustav was bad, but not nearly as bad as Katrina. So there's less opportunity for McCain to showboat -- it just looks even more transparent than it would have with a Cat 5 in the background.

  They've lost one day of their planned Obama hatefest -- and the corresponding sycophantic media coverage.

  Palin seems to be generating one new disaster every hour. And a couple of them involve S-E-X. And the image of her as a reckless, cynical pick by McCain seeps further into the public consciousness with every succeeding embarrassment.

  The thuggery shown by the authorities against the protesters can't be good for the RNC's image.

  Quite the convergence. Let's hope Obama's campaign can capitalize on all this and put this thing away.

 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


I thought that Gustav is actually much mor eintense than Katrina (0.00 / 0)
the difference is that they appear to be responding adequately this time, and actually evacuating people.  During Katrina, it was the horrible warning, the poorly constructed levees, and the evacuation process that began only when Ray Nagin started screaming at the media.

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It was a Cat 2 when it hit land (0.00 / 0)

  Still a very strong hurricane, of course, but Katrina was a Cat 5.

  The evacs did work better this time around, for sure.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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Actually you're both (half) right (4.00 / 1)
Both were Cat 2 hurricanes when they actually made landfall.

The difference of course, is that this time we really are dealing with a natural disaster, while in 2005, we were dealing with a man-made one.


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Actually (4.00 / 1)
Katrina was a Category 3 hurricane when it made landfall.

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I guess I was half right too! (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for the correction.

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Palin wedges (4.00 / 3)
the fundamentalist base against itself. Those who can stomach voting for a career woman with a troubled teenager versus those who cannot.

I'm done with popcorn, it's on to champagne.

Montani semper liberi


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What, No Bon-Bons??? (0.00 / 0)
Heck, no main feature, for that matter.  It's all cartoons.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Was it this blog where I got into that fight? (0.00 / 0)
You saw that?

Montani semper liberi

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McCain's Cake (4.00 / 2)
Can we please, please not just emphasize the Bush administrfation's failure, but that on the day Katrina hit McCain and Bush were cutting cake!  http://images.google.com/image...

As New Orleans drowned, McCain had a birthday party and said "let us eat cake."  We can say it next week, as to not be impolitic, but there is no image more disgusting to me in the past 7 years than that one.  Not any image of Iraq, not any image of torture (which are obviously beyond awful), but that one.  An American city drowned, full of poor people, while the rich elites did nothing.

I lived in DC at the time, and was actually working as a research assistant at a conservative think tank (long-story, don't ask), but I simply remember watching them realize their emperor had no clothes.  Iraq didn't do it, they liked Iraq.  But these were good people who I worked with, just incredibly misguided, and often lived in denial.  The intolerable cruelty of that whole debacle still kills me, and McCain was complicit.


I Believe What You Were Trying To Say Was This: (4.00 / 3)


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Cognitive Dissonance on Choice (4.00 / 3)
I want to highlight a line in the McCain campaign's press release on the pregnancy:

We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

They are proud of their daughter's decision.  They feel the need to point out it was her choice, but don't believe it legally should have been.  Both McCain and Palin believe any girl or woman in Bristol's position should be forced to carry to full term.  Yet, they want to make sure no one believes she was forced into this, it was Bristol's decision, cause, you know, they are nice people and would never force something like that.


Actually, It WAS Her Decision (4.00 / 1)
As Dan Qualye made quite clear years ago, all that anti-abortion stuff was for other people.  For his own family, it was 'whatever, already.'

Laws, like taxes, are for "little people."  Even--or especially--moral laws.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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You forget... (4.00 / 1)
...when J. Danforth admitted, that, should one of his daughters become pregnant out of wedlock, he would back whatever decision she might make, Marilyn Quayle butted in a day later with a flat "she would keep the baby."  It's O.K. for father's to be indulgent with Daddy's Little Girl, but it's the Christian mom's (like Marilyn Quayle...or Sarah Palin) responsibility to ensure that their daughters keep to the straight-and-narrow, period.

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McCain said the EXACT SAME THING!!!! (4.00 / 2)
This may have contributed to the misperception that McCain is moderate or prochoice. Even some staunch progressive women that I know have the impression McCain is pro-choice, including my pediatrician sister (until a few weeks ago when I clued her in). Nonetheless McCain clearly would overturn Roe v. Wade.

McCain Struggles With Sensitive Abortion Question (2000)

"The final decision would be made by Meghan with our advice and counsel," McCain said, speaking of himself and his wife Cindy.

"I would discuss this issue with Cindy and Meghan, and this would be a private decision that we would share within our family and not with anyone else," McCain told reporters in New Hampshire on board his campaign bus nicknamed "The Straight Talk Express. "Obviously I would encourage her to bring, to know that baby would be brought up in a warm and loving family, but the final decision would be made by Meghan with our advice and counsel."

...

McCain grew irritated as reporters pressed him on the subject. Asked if that was the same answer an abortion-rights advocate would give, McCain said, "I don't think it is the pro-choice position to say that my daughter and my wife and I will discuss something that is a family matter that we have to decide."

This is in perfect keeping with McCain's inability to coherently answer questions on contraceptives, condoms, AIDS, abstinence-only questions, etc.

All these theocons have to uphold the Daddy-knows-best when it's somebody else's daughter (especially when said daughter is poor) and to do so by putting government and laws in womens' lives, medical records, and bodies. But when it comes time for Daddy to apply the rules to his own family, Daddy becomes a nuturant hippie, or something.

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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I just noticed... (0.00 / 0)
Ann Friedman more on this over a Tapped.

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and it occurred to me (4.00 / 1)
...that this language is being deliberately used to further confuse the issue, to target women who lean pro-choice and give them a little bit of leeway to pull the lever for McCain. Especially the women who still think McCain is pro-choice, as I mentioned earlier.

PS - If you're interested in debunking the "McCain is pro-choice" myth, Planned parenthood is running a campaign.

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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and (4.00 / 1)
while Gustav did not provide the catastrophe it could have (and for that I'm thankful), Hurricane Hanna is coming up the Southeast coast and is scheduled to hit Jacksonville or Savannah, GA, cities in two swing states, maybe as early as Thursday, so if they go right into an Obama hatefest now it carries dangers.

Plus, the baby story has highlighted one of Palin's radical positions, on abstinence-only education.  You should have seen Bill Bennett trying to humina-humina his way out of that one.

Insert shameless blog promotion here.


Is it true that she's against birth control pills and (0.00 / 0)
condoms for married couples?

I've seen some references, but no links ...


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Still trying to find out on that one (0.00 / 0)
Where's Greg Sargent?

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