McCain Speech Thread #2

by: Matt Stoller

Thu Sep 04, 2008 at 22:29


McCain said the 'me first country second crowd' should be aware that change is coming, and now he's praising Palin again.  Um, dude, you're at the top of the ticket.

... "I understand who I work for.  I don't work a party, I don't work for a special interest, I don't work for myself, I work for you."  Good line.

... "I'd rather lose an election than see my country lose a war."  And now he's praising Petraeus.

... As he talks about people who are struggling it sounds different than his discussion of the surge and war.  He clearly doesn't care about this stuff.

... "We lost the trust of the American people when some Republicans gave in to the temptation of corruption... we lost their trust."  He goes after Obama passing a corporate welfare bill for oil companies.

... A culture of life.  "Personal responsibility.  The rule of law and judges who dispense justice impartially and don't legislate from the bench."

MAVERICK!

... I will keep taxes low, my opponent will raise them.  Spending, trade, health care - Obama will eat your BABIES!!!

... Is he really going to go after unemployment insurance?  Yes, he is.

... Best line from Ben Coffey Clark tweet: "This crowd response is lamer than a naughty be nature reunion tour trying to get crowd to scream heeeey. Hoooooo in rhythmn".

... He's going on about failing schools.  Boring.  Bring back Palin!

... Let's fire teachers!  Yeah!  Bomb those failing schools!  That's mavericky.

... Obama wants schools that EAT YOUR BABIES, McCain wants schools that bomb the enemy.  

... We'll drill those wells offshore and we'll drill them NOW!

... Browser froze.  Grrr.  Lots of stuff about Al Qaeda, Russia, Georgia, tough talk on the Russians trying to reassemble their empire.  Now he's talking about Vietnam.

"I hate war, it's terrible beyond imagination."

... "In America we change things that need changing."  Really?  "Americans like things that are likeable."

He's now talking about needing to bring American institutions into a global economy, and railing against partisanship as a symptom of people who go to Washington to work for themselves and "not you."

... I'll reach across the aisle to get things done, my Democratic opponent won't!

... "I won't care who gets the credit."

... "I was blessed by misfortune."  "I witnessed a thousand acts of compassion and courage and love."

... BREAKING: McCain was a prisoner of war!

Matt Stoller :: McCain Speech Thread #2

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he just said (4.00 / 2)
"lost their housing investments" not "lost their home" He. does. not. get. it.

Man, I'm a confessed political junkie... (0.00 / 0)
and this speech is boring even me.

I love how he lists all the people his party screwed over (0.00 / 0)
and then says he cares about them without saying how or if he will actually help them

Palin's at the top of the ticket now (0.00 / 0)

 I'm only half-snarking.

 And the Obama campaign will have to adjust.

 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


For McCain its pretty good (0.00 / 0)
But is that good enough?

And compared to Obama at Invesco Field, this is just not good at all...


This wouldn't have been the second best speech last night (0.00 / 0)


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It's uneven (4.00 / 1)

 Some good moments, many awkward ones.

 McCain's irrelevant anyway. It's all about Palin now.

 Be ready. I just kicked in some coin to Obama.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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I am so sick of hearing about Lincoln (4.00 / 3)
it was 150 years ago. It was not the same party.  

Roosevelt is almost worse (0.00 / 0)
Especially considering how they rail against the estate tax.

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Eh. Teddy at least fits into their (0.00 / 0)
"screw over everybody else so we can feel manly" foreign policy.

On domestic issue, though, yeah, it's almost as bad.


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Lincoln would chew off his own leg (0.00 / 0)
before he joined this Republican party.  

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So would Eisenhower. (4.00 / 2)

  Heck, so would Goldwater.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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so DID Eisenhower (4.00 / 3)
Susan Eisenhower, that is - she went indepenent a week ago.  

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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Um (4.00 / 1)
He's flat-out sucking.

Did they send all of their good speechwriters to Palin and just decide to phone this in?


And I'm just gonna lay it out there... (0.00 / 0)
Palin's HOT!!!

The cut-aways to her are the best part of this speech.

You know, I like her a lot more when I'm not actually listening to her.

I wonder if they'll figure it out and just run her out for photo shoots... wait, isn't that what they're doing now?


she has 20 years of exploiting her looks (0.00 / 0)
you want experience, that's her experience right atcha.

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ick (4.00 / 1)


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The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky


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I love community colleges, they are a valuable, critical part of our society, (0.00 / 0)
but are they really a solution for the economy?  When college graduates are underemployed?  Has he lost his mind?  Does he still think it's 1949?

No, (4.00 / 3)
it's called the exact same fucking thing Bush has said for 8 years.

I fully expect Obama to hit him on this. All McCain has said for this entire speech as it relates to Domestic policy is he's going to do the exact fucking same thing.

He is writing his own political obituary tonight.

Oh yeah, and great job belittling unions McCain! Yeah, not like you need white working class voters in unions in states like OH, MI, and WI. Great job buddy!


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Is he fraking serious? (4.00 / 2)
His jobs plan is a joke, right? He said he's doing away with unemployment benefits and everyone cheered, I was dreaming, RIGHT? RIGHT??  

Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  

I heard that too (4.00 / 2)
and I said "whoa!!".  That's going to be an anchor around their necks once they put the details out there.

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That soundbite... (4.00 / 3)

 ...should be in an Obama ad.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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I this really his position (4.00 / 1)
or was it a slip?

Does anyone have a copy of the full speech?

I just find this hard to believe...


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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..... (0.00 / 0)
somebody nudge me if I miss something REALLY important....Jesus, bring back Palin...at least she did that thing with her nose....

it's called a comma, John (0.00 / 0)
and when you see one, you're supposed to stop talking for a beat.

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


Why won't this fucking voucher idea die? (0.00 / 0)
It doesn't work.  It has never been shown to work.  It destroys schools.  It has been shown again and again.


it's candy for fundies (4.00 / 1)
Fundies hate public schools and consider vouchers and school choice as tools in a crusade to destroy public education...  

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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Feature, Not A Bug (4.00 / 3)
They hate public schools, it's a potentially great equalizer.

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People yawning in the audience. (4.00 / 2)


Uhmm, he wants to stop sending money to countries that don't like us... (4.00 / 1)
like Iraq?

want to talk about torture..... (0.00 / 0)
holy crap...is he done yet...I give  

Does anyone else... (0.00 / 0)
Just want to punch him when he says Warshington.  ITS WASHINGTON YOU STUPID BASTARD... THE FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY.  PRONOUNCE HIS NAME RIGHT!!!

Do you react that way when Ted Kennedy talks? (0.00 / 0)


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I want to yell at him to pronounce it correctly... (0.00 / 0)
But I like Ted, so I don't feel like punching him no.   Then again, Teddy isn't an evil SOB either.

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There is no 'correct' (0.00 / 0)
Everyone has accents.  Technically, correct English should be high English or something, ya?

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John McCain (0.00 / 0)
had 5 1/2 years of only hearing of one founding father...

HO CHI MINH!!!!!


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heh (0.00 / 0)
you've never been to western PA, I take it... my aunt would say "We went to Worshington and the hotel didn't have worshcloths in the shower"... can't remember if she says nuclear or newkewlar...

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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Clark (0.00 / 0)
Wes Clark says it too

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Again... (0.00 / 0)
They need to learn to pronounce it right.

God this speech sucks.


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Time to show the world how Americans lead (0.00 / 0)
that's a Democratic line...

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


one quote (4.00 / 2)
... "I'd rather lose an election than see my country lose a war."  And now he's praising Petraeus.

In other words if he loses the election then obama will win the war?


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somebody give Obama some scars, quick! (0.00 / 0)


Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  

He is such a snide asshole.... (0.00 / 0)
don't know if it is his self righteous belief that he deserves to be president...  

Steal Dem Ideas (4.00 / 2)
Basically went on record saying if elected he'll steal all our best ideas. Then fuck them all up.  

Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  

Wow (4.00 / 1)
I'm sure glad he feels uncomfortable talking about his POW experience...

Imagine if he only felt like opening up and sharing a little of his heroic past.

Too bad, I guess we'll never know.


Kill me. (0.00 / 0)
pleeeeeease.

Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  

On my knees (0.00 / 0)
Pretty pretty please... kill me.... put a bullet in my head.

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You know... (0.00 / 0)
If you are a low rent, half assed country act... all you need to do is write a song about the GOP nominee and you'll sell a bunch of albums.

Oh shit (4.00 / 1)
Is that the Steak: It's whats for dinner theme?

Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  

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two posts on GOP just plain wrong on economic issues (0.00 / 0)
I can't help wondering if McCain really doesn't have a clue on what the United States needs to regain it's economic strength or if it's the corporate pressures around him that makes him and the GOP lie through their teeth.

Give me Your White Scared and Wealthy

and

RNC - Trade Through the Spin Cycle.

Retraining is absolutely such a joke because America is already the most trained and educated in the world.

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