Polling Big Picture: McCain is Ahead, No Wait....

by: tremayne

Mon Sep 08, 2008 at 17:30


Every election cycle we are seeing more and more polling. In 2000 you had to make due with the occasional national poll and the even scarcer state poll. The 2004 election had so much polling it sparked a cottage industry of part-time election polling pundits such as "The Mystery Pollster," Mark Blumenthal, now part of the Pollster.com team.

Kos has commissioned a few polls over the years and today announced even more including, yes, yet one more daily tracking poll. The Kos tracking poll (by Research 2000), which debuts Thursday, brings to 4 the number of polls tracking the Presidential race. For those of us who check in on these polls daily, this is great terrible. With each new tracker the number of potential blog posts increases multiplicatively (that's a real word). You can write about why this poll agrees with that or why this poll disagrees with that or why one of them is biased against your candidate, etc. To cut through the mind-numbing haze of decimals, I present a simple time saver: The Open Left Tracking Poll Average. Yes, Obama is behind but it's not that bad. Follow along.

tremayne :: Polling Big Picture: McCain is Ahead, No Wait....

There are now 3 tracking polls:

Rasmussen

Gallup

Diageo/Hotline (come on, choose one name)

Each of these organization goes about their business differently. Different sample sizes, different screening procedures (likely voters vs. registered voters), etc. We are going to ignore that and, like the two popular "poll of polls" (Pollster.com and Real Clear Politics), provide a composite of the data. We are going to average the results.

Each of these organization uses 3-day rolling average. They do this for two good reasons:

1. They are not comfortable with the results of their 1-day polls. By pooling the data over 3 days they increase the reliability of the result they report.

2. They might be embarassed if they had to release all the 1-day numbers. In a truly tied race, it would not be unusual, given the sample sizes involved as well as modern-day polling challenges, to have one candidate up 4 one day and the other candidate up 4 the next, even if there was no "event" to explain the movement. The swings could even be greater, just by random noise in the data.

So, rather than try to deduce each day's individual number, I will use the released numbers which are based on the previous 3 days. Interestingly, Kos says he will make all the data public on his site including those invidual days' numbers. When that poll begins we can add it to the 3 existing trackers (using the 3-days rolling averages).

Because the Diageo/Hotline poll doesn't publish on weekends (they poll on those days but apparently couldn't afford a few extra bucks to put out the numbers 7 times a week) we will assume linearity in poll movement from Friday to Monday and extrapolate accordingly.

Without further ado, here are the recent results:

TRACKING POLL AVERAGE

Sept. 5: Obama 47.3, McCain 43.3

Sept. 6: Obama 47.1, McCain 44.1

Sept. 7: Obama 45.9, McCain 46.2

Sept. 8: Obama 45.0, McCain 47.0

McCain is ahead by 2 points according to the tracking polls. All the data released today was done in the 3 days after the RNC and should represent McCain's high point unless this marks a true turning point in which case McCain could edge even higher and stay there. That's possible, such things have occurred before (ask Mike Dukakis about it). It's also quite possibly a true bounce in that gravity returns McCain to his previous position in the low 40s.

Now, what about all the non-daily polls? Looking at the "poll of polls" can usually help but as of now they diverge. RealClearPolitics.com's average shows Obama behind 45.4 to McCain's 48.6 while the trend estimator used at Pollster.com shows Obama still ahead. I think, in 2008, it may be time for another new yardstick: The Poll of Polls of Polls. According to my advanced computational skills, whereby I add two numbers together and divide by 2, the Open Left Poll of Polls of Polls shows:

Obama: 45.85

McCain: 47.1

So McCain leads the Poll of Polls of Polls by 1.25 percent which is close to the tracking average showing a 2-point McCain lead.

Summary: McCain holds a very narrow lead at the moment which may be the new normal or may represent his high water mark for the 2008 election.

Tune in tomorrow for another edition of the Polling Big Picture.

(PS...there are finally some new state polls in the Quick Hits so I suspect we'll get a new Presidential Forecast from Chris soon and it will probably show some tightening since the last edition).


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This is why I love Open Left (4.00 / 1)
Not only do you guys have the Bush Dog Campaign, and the Net Neutrality campaign, but you clearly and concisely split the smallest hairs--and are funny while doing it.

Glad you are here tremayne

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I've crunched (4.00 / 2)
the number and concluded that race will come down to four voters in the Detroit suburbs.

Actually, I developed a very simple method for determining who's ahead.

If a candidate's campaign is complaining about the other side's lies and attacks, that candidate is losing. Obama was winning after the housing gaffe and after his speech. Now he's losing.

Tune in tomorrow to see which candidate is attacking and which candidate is whining about the attacks.


You didn't hear? (0.00 / 0)
Those four voters are selling their votes on ebay.  Rumor has it Warren Buffet has the inside track on 2 and Rupert Murdoch has the other 2...gl with the Supreme Court decision.

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Reminds me of this: (0.00 / 0)


-New Mexico politics from the local perspective.

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Good stuff (0.00 / 0)
The overall picture is always important.  And it's fun when things get as meta as the "Poll of Poll of Polls."

Panic over (0.00 / 0)
There was a bit of a tizzy today about what seemed to disastrous numbers for Obama, but doing my own shuffling about on RealClearPolitics and Pollster.com, I have come to the same conclusion as tremayne.

But no complacency. I think this was been a "wake up!" call to the Obama campaign - they could still lose this election!

Think of it as the first few days of the Battle of the Bulge... the last desperate roll of the dice for a bunch of fascists. I'm not recommending that for an Obama ad.


Battle of the Bulge (4.00 / 1)
Funny, I thought of that analogy the other day.  All the elements are there:
1. Good guys race through France at breakneck pace as bad guys withdraw behind the Siegfried Line to lick their wounds (great Dem convention + first 3 days of Palin pick - "no vetting" + troopergate + etc.)
2. Good guys get complacent, rush ahead of supply lines, bog down in Huertgen Forest, Alsace & Belgium (Palin controversy has bloggers in tizzy, gets off-message when people start paying too much attention to Bristol + tabloid scandals; Obama hits high point in polls).
3. Weather turns really cold. Allied soldiers get tired. Nazis plan massive last-gasp push for Antwerp that somehow catches the Allies flat-footed. Nazis smash through Allied lines, wreak havoc for a while. (Rudy + Palin speeches, huge TV ratings, McCain speech draws 40 million, polls take sharp turn to GOP.)

So that's where we are today. What happens next?  One can only hope it plays out like 1945:
4. Cool-headed Allied leader (Eisenhower) doesn't panic, retools lines and marshals reserves, sends in 101st Airborne to Bastogne.  Nazi tanks eventually run out of gas, get cold, and realize they're no longer an elite fighting force after all their good soldiers got chewed up by the last 6 years of warfare.  Bulge collapses, Allies clean up and march on to victory. (Cool-headed Obama campaign doesn't panic, refocuses campaign rhetoric, marshals surrogates to pound away at McCain-Palin vulnerabilities. GOP attacks eventually run out of gas; Republicans realize they're no longer a majority political force after all their leaders' credibility got chewed up by the last 6 years of war in Iraq.  GOP convention bounce collapses, Dems clean up and march on to victory.)

And yes, I am comparing the McCain-Palin ticket to Nazis. Why not? They compare our guy to terrorists.


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Is Axelrod a new Patton? (0.00 / 0)
We can only hope so. Great points, john!

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Zogby will probably have a tracker soon too... (0.00 / 0)
They had one in 2004, anyway... I assume they'll have one this year too.

Of course, it IS Zogby...  Still, I am guessing we will have at LEAST 5 tracking polls by October. Fun times.


This could very well turn out to be a dead cat bounce (0.00 / 0)


Wanna bet the election on that? (0.00 / 0)
Better not. Something has to change in the Obama campaign. These poll numbers are totally unsatisfactory and an alarming sign that the Dem's message isn't resonating with the voters.

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