Schumer Pushes Back on Urgency and the $700 Billion Number

by: Matt Stoller

Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 13:43


This is great.

Schumer also floated the notion of giving the Treasury a portion of the $700 billion now and revisiting the success of the program in January. But Paulson was not as supportive.

"I think that would be a grave mistake," the secretary said. "This is about market confidence, and we need to have the tools to do it right."

Matt Stoller :: Schumer Pushes Back on Urgency and the $700 Billion Number

These are good noises from Schumer.  Hank Paulson as usual is using dishonest authoritarian GOP Daddy tricks - the market will be mad if you don't give me everything I want.  Oh yeah?  Well what if the market loses confidence in Hank Paulson?  I know I have a hell of a lot more confidence in a democratically elected Congress in January than some Wall Street greedy hack.

This is a giant scam.  Gary Marcus, a psychologist at NYU, has noted that the $700B number and the sense of urgency are 'anchors' designed to exploit a weakness in the human mind that fixates on the first number uttered during a negotiation.  For instance, he says, a shopkeeper might put up a sign that says 'limit 12 items' just to lead shoppers to think they might need several.  It's a powerful tool, and also helps explain why this administration operates via crises.  They are good moments to anchor a culture around arbitrary numbers, but you don't need a crisis to do it - Bush pushed his $1.6 trillion dollar tax cut in 2001, and Tom Daschle 'compromised' around an amount a little over a trillion.

On the other hand, this is why we have a political system.  These kinds of experimental notions in behavioral economics are still relatively new, and while we do know that humans tend to use all sorts of shortcuts to manage information inputs and that this leaves us vulnerable to trickery, there's a lot we don't know about how social systems can push back against deceivers.

What Schumer is doing here is pushing back against the anchored number and the sense of urgency.  That's good.  Someone needs to tell these used car salesmen to go fuck themselves.  It's ironic that it's the man funded by Wall Street who is doing it.


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"Market" confidence? (0.00 / 0)


Confidence scheme, more like? n/t (4.00 / 1)


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[ Parent ]
They say they need $50B a month... (4.00 / 2)
Well, assuming they can justify this number (and since we can't see it, we have no idea what they really need), then why doesn't congress just give them... $50B (with oversight, limitations, regulation, etc) for this month... revisit in 1 month, give another $50B... etc... until we have a a new president.

It makes absolutely no sense to just dump a bunch of money on this all at once if what they're saying is that they need $50B a month.  Even if we take them at their word that this is true, then that's exactly what they should get... each month.


NO money gets disbursed until Jan. 21 (4.00 / 3)
THAT should be in the bill. Markets will factor in the fact that the money is coming in less than 4 months so they'll calm down. This way it's Obama and his team that decides how to spend the money, NOT Bush's crooks. I'll bet foreign investors would very much welcome this stipulation....

The cross of TARP (0.00 / 0)
If they dare to come out in the open field and defend the bailout as a good thing, we will fight them to the uttermost. Having behind us the producing masses of this nation and the world, supported by the commercial interests, the laboring interests, and the toilers everywhere, we will answer their demand for a $700 billion bailout by saying to them: You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of TARP!

Bernanke all but admited this was mostly to (4.00 / 2)
falsely boost prices of the distressed assets and to give the market psychological confidence.

make the bank bond holders write down the debt they are holding and the banks will be flush with cash.

enough bull shit! these banks don't need $700B and they don't need Schumer's incremental hand outs. im glad he's poking holes in the scheme, but its still playing within the conceit that the government must get involved.  

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This would push the market up (0.00 / 0)
There's little doubt about that. And that's the goal -- make the economy less of an issue Nov 4. Kick the fundamental, structural problems down the road.

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Good stuff, Matt... and (0.00 / 0)
What I also want to know is why there hasn't been more push back against the idea that this is some sort of massive government expansion (a "socialization" move... or as some conservatives have been putting it, "communism for corporations"). Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were one thing, but those were unique entities. And with AIG, the huge ownership share acquired by the government means the company was somewhat nationalized. But the $700 billion bailout on the whole is just another attempted theft by an administration that has taken every chance it could get to put public money in private hands. This time to the tune of 3/4 of a trillion dollars. It's not a government expansion, it's a Norquist-esque attempt to cripple the government. The whole "crisis"/"shock doctrine" aspect to this is par for the course, but if there was not any sort of collapse, there would have been something else -- with Congress wrapping up and the election in just over a month, this is the administration's last chance to get a fat check for its buddies. "One for the road."

Treat the CEOs and other executives like drug dealers (0.00 / 0)
Take away their fortunes UP FRONT and make them prove that each dollars was not obtained via some illegal/illicit means before they can get it back to pay their high-priced lawyers to defend them in court.

AFTER, they repay the big bonuses they reaped while their investments houses and banks were being hollowed out in expectation of a huge bail-out orchestrated by their man at Treasury, former investment banker and co-designer of the failed system, Czar Henry Paulson.


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


i'm sorry (4.00 / 1)
i missed the part where i have to  care anymore what Paulson says.  He lost all his credibility once they floated that joke of a bill.

Agreed (0.00 / 0)
we need to push this hard. Paulson, by his estimates will only use max 200 million before the next president takes office. If more is really needed after that Obama will be able to get a better deal for it. If not he will not have to call off almost everything he has proposed.

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