Que Sera, Sera

by: Matt Stoller

Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 21:55


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About a third of the entire construction crane capacity in North America is between Bellevue and Seattle.

I've been traveling around over the past few days throughout the unbelievably beautiful and ridiculously wet Northwest, and I'm struck by the commitment of this new generation of organizers, both on the Obama campaign and the campaigns of both Darcy Burner and Jeff Merkley.  Merkley's race in particular has really heated up in the last few weeks, concurrently with the financial meltdown.  They are progressive, they work extremely hard, and they are dedicated to a new way of doing politics.  It's fascinating and inspiring.

Matt Stoller :: Que Sera, Sera
Both Washington and Oregon are going for Obama, and the big question is whether there will be a substantial undervote.  How many Obama-Reichert voters or Obama-Smith voters are there?  How can you pull them over to go for the whole Democratic ticket?

Those are some of the questions I'm asking.  Still, I'm struck by a particular piece from this wonderful profile of Nate Silver (of FiveThirtyEight).  Nearly all electoral forecasters used polls in the primaries to make predictions, what Silver did was use straight demographics and predict forward how people would vote based on their demographic identity.  His model worked.  

One interesting consequence of this theory about voting behavior is that much of politics is simply out of the hands of campaigns.  You can't persuade someone to be black or a woman or a young person, and you can't make a strategic call to have the financial system melt down.  You can register voters, handle policy ideas, communicate clearly or badly, but much of 'the political strategy' is just about being ready when an opportunity emerges.  Political strategists should be focused on long-term demographic impacts of policy, voter registration, and pulling various levers of the economy.  That's what the right does; Fed chairs love raising rates before elections when Democrats are the incumbents, but put the pedal to the metal when it's a Republican.  Bush actually withheld military spending in 2007 and juiced it in 2008.

A month and a half ago, Merkley probably wasn't going to win, the conventional wisdom has changed 180 degrees.  The difference?  The financial crisis.  I know activists complain when a campaign is behind in the polls, talk about how the energy just isn't there, or argue that the candidate is bad or doesn't fit with the district.  Obviously, as I'm sitting in Bellevue right now in WA-08, one of the only races that has not seen the Democratic surge resonant all over the country, this is weighing on my mind.  But realize that almost everything that happens in the overall environment is uncontrollable, and how skilled a candidate is may not come in to play.  Obama wasn't any more skilled a six weeks ago than he is today, McCain hasn't lost capacity.  The world simply changed.

Seattle, Portland, and North Carolina are doing really well economically because high tech sectors have located sustainable energy industries here.  In fact, Bellevue isn't so much a city right now as it is a massive large construction project.  There's no controlling for that.  All we can do as activists is register voters, volunteer, give money, and work to tell the truth as we see it.  Will any of our candidates win?  Yes, of course.  But let's fear, not losing, but hubris.  Given an opportunity to govern, Democrats must govern well, or else this could shift as quickly as it has in the last six weeks.

As for Darcy, I think she's going to win, because ultimately this financial crisis is going to scare people here and a lot of the Obama voters are probably going to pull the lever for Darhercy.  How can I be sure?  Well, I can't.  As Pink Martini performed (really really well, I might add) last night at a Merkley event, Que sera, sera.


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Nice Picture of I405 (0.00 / 0)
This road is probably what the lady from Sammamish was thinking of when she talked about road improvements.

There is no way she's taking light rail to/from Bellevue Square Mall, slogging her bagged purchases on mass transit.


obviously she won't be taking mass transit (0.00 / 0)
Why would anyone take a 90minute bus ride followed by an hour walk to get home from the mall?

After all, it's less than 20 miles away.


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i just checked public transit option on maps.google.com (0.00 / 0)
From Bellevue square to my house.

Car - 9.8 mi - about 15 mins (up to 25 mins in traffic)
Public transit - 10:19pm - Oct 14, 2008 6:03am (7 hours 44 mins)

And yes, that's the best option available.  So when WA-08 is asking for roads and doesn't really support transit.  It's largely due to the fact that so far transit has shown itself to be completely terrible at servicing the eastside.

These are the types of things that really hurt the local Democratic candidates who aren't willing to break against the traditional Democratic platform on transportation.


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Well... (0.00 / 0)
you probably could get to your house in under 3 hours if you left before 10:19pm.  Not that that's useful for anyone.

Who said anything about democrats and traditional platforms?  That lady wouldn't spend 2 hours carrying multiple bags on a train/bus to bellevue square.  Neither would you nor I given the choice of a different option.

I think you read too much into my first comment.  Cheers.


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That's the next available (0.00 / 0)


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I just realized this blog is on eastern time (0.00 / 0)
It was only 7:30 here.  The next available public transit from Bellevue square to my house starting at 7:30 pm gets me home at 6:00 am.  10.5 hours.  Including a deluxe overnight stay at a park and ride.

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I'm sorry to hear that (0.00 / 0)
Because mass transit does not serve you personally, immediately, and quickly, that you seem willing to support conservative Republicans.

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that was my point.... (4.00 / 1)
A lot of people reading this blog are not familiar with the area.

I was just pointing out that Matt took a picture of the very highway that I think that woman was thinking of when she more or less said (according to Stoller),

"...but doesn't like Gregoire because Gregoire doesn't want to address transportation problems by widening the highways as much as Rossi does."


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Exactly. I'm very liberal most of the time (0.00 / 0)
But my work is only 7 miles away.  And I spend 90 minutes a day commuting.  

Those 90 minutes a day, I am not at all moved by Darcy Burner or Christine Gergoire's position on anything.  Who cares about the national economy, who cares about the war, who cares about anything besides the fact that the end of 520 is a parking lot.

What I am looking for is more lanes.  Now.

Rossi is promising to address this issue.  And Reichert is much more focused on it than Burner.  Just google 'Reichert transportation' vs 'Burner transportation'.

And that my friends is how you get an Obama/Reichert split ticket.  Local issues.


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More lanes won't save you (4.00 / 3)
That's the problem. There is the phenomenon of "induced demand" - more lanes mean more cars. Within a couple years you lose the benefits of new lanes.

Plus, if you consider yourself "very liberal" you surely understand the need to move the region away from car-based transportation? Light rail from downtown Seattle to Bellevue and Redmond via I-90 will carry MANY more passengers than an 8-lane 520 bridge which Rossi supports - and which I can guarantee you will never happen.

Besides, are women's reproductive rights worth sacrificing so you can get more lanes? What about teacher salaries? Children's health care? Because Rossi opposes all of those.

How are you voting on Prop 1? How did you vote on last year's Prop 1?

You can't pick and choose when to be liberal and can't pick and choose which Democrats to support if you really want to be committed to progressive change.

Finally, anyone who thinks Reichert will be able to bring home bacon for wider roads is nuts. Reichert's transportation plans are worthless.


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I didn't say I was voting GOP (0.00 / 0)
prop-1 - yes in 2007.  yes in 2008.  Better than nothing.

Induced demand.  The roads are inadequate for what we already have.  Maybe it will induce demand.  Maybe it won't.  But clearly it's not functioning properly now.  And prop-1 doesn't help transit for Sammamish at all.  Zero zip.

I'll be voting for Burner and I'll be voting for Gregoire.

But by adopting a classic Democratic position on transit and roads, it's for all the other reasons you mentioned.  And the fact that Rossi and Reichert are out-and-out liars and won't really deal with the transportation issues.

My point is that both campaigns are doing poorly in WA-08 because they aren't addressing the biggest local issue - traffic.  And they also aren't nationalizing the race by doing a Reichert=Bush campaign.

So it's not a surprise to me to see the ticket splitting.  Most people I know are strong Obama - undecided on Gov/Congress.


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Traffic is partly a constructed issue (4.00 / 1)
Because the framing is "omg you're stuck in traffic so you need more lanes." Why aren't we questioning the underlying decisions that went into growth on the Eastside? Or the lack of more centralized locations or better bus service?

I understand traffic is a big issue - I've been caught in some truly horrific jams over on the Eastside, as well as on I-5 - but I think that it speaks to a deeper failure of WA liberals and Democrats to really push home the solution.

Of course, it's a national problem. Americans still believe that the decentralized, car-centric sprawl system can work. It can't, of course, and the money being sunk into downtown Bellevue - which even seven years ago looked like a suburb, not like it does in the pic above - proves that the US economy is fundamentally shifting away from sprawl. There's a price to be paid living on the plateau but few want to pay it.

Sorry to suggest you were voting GOP - that was the implication I got from your comments. Happy to be proved wrong.


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Wow (4.00 / 2)
Obviously you've not lived in other large cities.  The traffic in the Seattle area is tame compared to Chicago, for example.

At the same time I-405 has had numerous lane expansions and improvements.  North of Bellevue in Totem Lake.  Now they are working south of downtown.  There is a lot of road work going on all over the place.

On The Road To 2008: Commentary on issues as we countdown to the next opportunity to change the direction of America


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I lived in LA and Seattle (4.00 / 2)
Seattle was by far worse in terms of traffic (circa 2000-2002) than LA. I think the real problem in Seattle and environs is the lack of alternate routes. In LA, you can avoid freeways entirely -- you can get anywhere via surface streets if you must. In Seattle, you really have no choice other than the freeways to get to certain places. If a big ship hits the floating bridges, you're screwed -- for weeks.

And, gosh, was 405 in Washington horrible. A giant concrete ditch. It was like driving in the Los Angeles River. I do not miss 405.

Anyway, I think you're missing jello5929's larger point, which I think is that the Dems in WA are not managing to sell the locals on the local issues, and traffic is a huge local issue that connects with voters.

There is a corollary point to be made: if transit is to be viable, it must be marketed and sold to the public much as any other product is marketed and sold. Americans are used to cars and thinking in terms of improving their experience in cars. But what if mass transit was actually more convenient? What if it was substantially cheaper than a car? What if it didn't use foreign oil? Etc.


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I should point out that... (4.00 / 3)
...Darcy has been making the local connection for a long while between the dollars being spent in the Iraq occupation, and the lack of funding for road and bridge projects in the district, such as the 520 floating bridge replacement.

She did so again during the Friday debate, stating that $2.8 billion WA-08 dollars have gone into the war, while infrastructure projects here have had funding troubles.

On The Road To 2008: Commentary on issues as we countdown to the next opportunity to change the direction of America


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Buses != mass transit (4.00 / 2)
Light rail, however, is.

Obviously nobody is talking about trains to Sammammish. But neither is that where Puget Sound's most dire transit needs are. The I-5 spine from Kent to Lynnwood and I-405 from Renton to Bothell are. Light rail will relieve both corridors, as would an investment in the former BNSF corridor that King County now owns.

But none of that will happen with a Governor Rossi.


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Bus Rapid Transit is an option though (0.00 / 0)
Dedicated lanes for buses on the roads would help (physically separated lanes like Mexico City has are even better).  BRT is a lot cheaper than light rail but still very effective.

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I love Pink Martini and Merkley is going to win! (0.00 / 0)
Today's SUSA, Merkley up by 5 pts.- 46-41, with 9 pts going to the Independent Party Candidate. Merkley will win with less than 50%. In this case you're right Matt, it's the economic meltdown has been the demographic leveler. Everyone is scared! Merkley is going to get a good ride on Obama's coat tails.  

Obama blow-out in Oregon - up by 17 pts.! (4.00 / 1)
Just in from SUSA, here's the proportion of Obama's coat tails in my home state:
Obama by 17 pts. 57-40

http://www.surveyusa.com/clien...

We start voting by mail next week.  


This Is Another Way Of Making The Argument For Hegemonic Struggle (0.00 / 0)
One interesting consequence of this theory about voting behavior is that much of politics is simply out of the hands of campaigns.  You can't persuade someone to be black or a woman or a young person, and you can't make a strategic call to have the financial system melt down.  You can register voters, handle policy ideas, communicate clearly or badly, but much of 'the political strategy' is just about being ready when an opportunity emerges.  Political strategists should be focused on long-term demographic impacts of policy, voter registration, and pulling various levers of the economy.

It's just the part that's missing from your short list: building the messaging infrastructure for showing people day-by-day how the world fits together, undergirded by the factors you've just named.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


Great post Matt. (4.00 / 1)
Specifically this part

Political strategists should be focused on long-term demographic impacts of policy, voter registration, and pulling various levers of the economy.

Kind of like Chris's (I'm pretty sure it was Chris) Good Feedback loops or whatever he called them. Passing the EFCA will increase unions, more unionized people means more votes for Democrats. Immigration reform means more Hispanics get registered to vote. That means more votes for Democrats and if we make it a Democratic issue we could make Hispanic's as reliable a Democratic demographic and African-Americans and the GLBT community, if we do that the Democratic Party will be the majority party for decades. Also when the economy is working for the middle class people have time for activism (see the 60s).

So basically we should focus on  

- EFCA and other pro-union measures
-Immigration reform
-Strong economic policy that builds a thriving middle class
-Election reform laws using Minnesota and Maine as examples to base good election reform (MN for their voting system, Maine for their financing system. Also Oregon, North Dakota, Louisiana and cites with IRV have interesting systems to look at)
-Major funding for effective voter registration drives.

And stuff like that.

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hmmm... (0.00 / 0)
About a third of the entire construction crane capacity in North America is between Bellevue and Seattle.

Matt hasn't been to Chicago lately.  There's one block a few blocks from me with 3(!) construction cranes.  3 highrises going up, right next to each other.  One on the northeast corner, one on the southeast corner, one on the southwest corner.

On my way to work, I probably walk by a dozen more construction cranes.  

I count a mere 5 cranes in the above picture.  


Most are shy in our neck of the woods... ;-) (0.00 / 0)
Actually, they tend to be hidden well within the nests of lo- and high-rises.

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I'm sorry.... (4.00 / 2)
....but there is no way that 1/3 capacity factoid is true.

No way, No how, no McCrane.


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"no way, no how, no mccrane" (0.00 / 0)
hilarious.  +4  :-D

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Here's some more footage (0.00 / 0)
from the concert for Merkley, it's members of the Decemberists:



Netroots Director for Oregon Senate Candidate Jeff Merkley


I can't agree (0.00 / 0)
about how well Darcy is doing. Does she identify herself as a Democrat? Or is she speaking to the Washington-style independents? Most voters for generations have called themselves, independent, which translates, "thoughtful."

Her opponent won't advertise himself as [unpopular] Republican. He is a maverick! He appeals to "thoughtful, decide for the person, not the party." Darcy makes a huge error - along with Gov. Gregoire - by not flying the Democratic Party banner. BTW - Dino Rossi for Governor - GOP.

Why take these pretenders seriously? Label them Republicans at every opportunity and accuse them of hiding, of being ashamed of their party and party leaders.


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