Tracking Poll Average for Sunday: Now with Greater Taste and More Filling

by: tremayne

Sun Oct 19, 2008 at 20:00


And then there were six. The newest tracker, by IBD/TIPP, published and polled this weekend and therefore it meets the criteria of the other five. It's based on a three day rolling average like the others. It began on Oct. 13 so I've gone back and added to the average to create the graph below. The big takeaway? Extreme stability in the Obama-McCain race over the last 7 days. As I wrote yesterday, Obama's peak in the old five-poll tracking average was Oct. 11 & 12 when he went above eight points which I believe was market related and represented a small decline in McCain's support.

The margin is very stable. Since Oct. 13 it's been 6.6, 6.7, 6.3, 6.3, 6.9, 6.4 and 6.3. 

If you look at likely voters instead of registered voters you will find a narrower margin. That doesn't mean the race is narrowing it just means likely voter models usually predict that younger (Democratic leaning) voters will turn out at lower rates than older (Republican leaning) voters. That may or may not be the case this year. African American turnout will be very high and will favor Obama, that much is clear.

The folks over at Redstate are trying their best to ignore the Colin Powell news and the $150 million news and focus on a supposed narrowing of the race. According to this daily tracking poll average that is a thin hope. 

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Why still so many undecideds? (0.00 / 0)
Is it normally 7-9% two weeks before? What scares me is that those undecideds would break for McCain at the end. It could wipe out Obama's lead. Could this happen?

Don't assume (4.00 / 1)
that all the undecideds are definite voters. Probably a fair number aren't even going to vote. They simply have no strong opinion/interest in politics. I'd imagine thats probably half of the remaining undecideds.


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That's exactly right (0.00 / 0)
Half of those decideds are truly undecided and can break either way.  The rest are most likely GOPers who will either vote for McCain or sit it out.  My money is on them just sitting it out.

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So this means as many as 75% could end up (0.00 / 0)
voting Republican.
Now, that isn't going to help me sleep well tonight. But I just have this strong feeling, as much as a maybe a certainty, but not quite... that we will win.

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Actually today I'm much less concenred (0.00 / 0)
about the supposed narrowing. I think there was some at the end of last week, but McCain's upward trend has stalled in every poll except Zogby. And in Gallup and Rasmussen - which I think are the two best - it is going back in Obama's favor. The narrowing happened on Thursday and Friday, but now is no longer apparent.

Powell's endorsement will probably ensure that this holding pattern continues and possibly enables a further slight Obama uptick.


Probably Joe the Plumber (0.00 / 0)

 Unlike with the previous debates, the legacy media completely blew off the insta-polls and plowed right ahead with the "McCain won the debate" narrative. This and the related infatuation with Joe the Plumber probably moved the polls a bit in McFraud's direction.

 When Joe was exposed as a fiction, thereby confining his appeal to the Republican base (as is the case with Sarah Palin), the polls stopped moving.

 My theory, at least...  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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i don't think so (0.00 / 0)
The debate was the night of Oct. 15. In the six trackers averaged above there was a small improvement for Obama on the 17th. No evidence here the debate did anything for McCain.

Plus, there were snap polls and focus groups and they showed Obama won easily. Joe the plumber did nothing for McCain except cement his "gimmick" approach to the campaign.


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unlikely (0.00 / 0)
It's not just undecided but also those preferring a third party candidate which includes:

Ralph Nader
Bob Barr
Cynthia McKinney
Ron Paul (some states)

Third party will take at least 1 percent. I think this year it may be to 2% as some anti-McCain Republicans look for non-Obama options.

I think a lot of the rest will not vote at all. Even if McCain took 80% of those who do show (and don't vote third party) he would fall well short, at this point anyway.


49-43 as we are (0.00 / 0)
1 to Nader, 1 to Barr. That leaves 6 undecided. Both campaigns believe they will go 2-1 McCain. If my math is correct that leaves us with, drum roll, Obama 51, McCain 47. I think we would all take that right now.

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