When Narratives Collapse

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Oct 23, 2008 at 15:30


As Glenn Greenwald points out , there's been a dramatic sea-change in the rules of effective political rhetoric. Glenn cites three examples over the course of one week's time--GOP Rep. Robin Hayes, VP nominee Sarah Palin, and GOP Rep. Michelle Bachmann--all attacking Democrats' patriotism, then denying it, turning tail and running away.

There's clearly something interesting -- and different -- happening here.  It's not that right-wing politicians are accusing liberals and Democrats of being unpatriotic, anti-American subversives.  There's nothing new about that.  To the contrary, that McCarthyite accusation has virtually been a central plank -- one could say the defining plank -- in the GOP platform for the last three decades, at least.

What's different -- markedly so -- is that once they do it, they feel compelled to backtrack, deny they said it or meant it, rescind it, and -- in the case of Palin -- actually "apologize" for it.  

There's no doubt about it, as Glenn's book, Great American Hypocrites documents, demonizing liberals while buildging up phony conservative heros has been central to the GOP's political strategy for decades now, and the fact that it's falling apart so dramatically is big news indeed.  How big?  Well, Glenn goes on to quote Zogby saying,

If Obama wins like this we can be talking not only victory but realignment.

And there's damn good reason for that....

Paul Rosenberg :: When Narratives Collapse
The essence of the New Deal realignment of 1932 was a collective gathering together-from the bottom on up-- on the basis of a shared economic fate.  The essence of the Nixonian dealignment of 1968 was a return to the us/them cultural divides that had predominated before 1932, with race as the central fulcrum, and "character" as the cover story.  Now economics is back-big time, as America's #2 war criminal would say.  And the cover story is crumbling to dust, along with its whole narrative superstructure.  In addition to the main arch Glenn identified, he's a quick look at several others in tatters from the last few days and weeks:

Revenge of the $400 Haircut

Although the hard-core alien/traitor narrative is the central trope of Nixonian politics, it's simply too strong to be used undiluted on a regular basis, which is why we have such a wide range of satellite variations-from the "stooges" and "useful idtiots" to the "pinkos and weirdos" to the "girlie men," DFHs, and, of course, the "French."

This election cycle, arguably the most consequential example was the dismissal of John Edwards' populist appeal on the basis of him getting a couple of $400 haircuts.  Now comes celebrated "hockey mom" Sarah Palin, and news of her $150k wardrobe makeover.  For the mathematically challenged, that's enough money to get one $400 haircut every day for a year, and still have $4,400 left over for bubblegum, or whatever.

Although the two stories were wildly incompatible, in the old media & political universe this wouldn't have made the least bit of difference.  Now, though, things have changed.  Part of what often occurs-or reaches a critical mass-during a relignment is the emergence of new means of political communicaiton, starting with newspapers like the Philadelphia Aurora in the election of 1800. So, in like manner, thanks to YouTube, Media Matters and the blogosphere, we can have things like the following, put together by Jed L at DKos:

Of course, the M$M still buried the much more consequential Troopergate Report, and Palin's bald-faced lying about it.  But there's a certain poetic justice in the "live-by-the-image/die-by-the-image" way this is all playing out.

Sarah Palin STILL Doesn't Know What The Vice President Does-But She THINKS She Does!

The first time tape surfaced where Palin expressed uncertainty about the VP's job, I said it was a bad line of attack.  If you listened to what Palin actually said, it seemed quite likely she was simply saying that she'd want to know what McCain would have in mind for her role to be-and, of course, because there's so little for a VP to do under the Constitution, what the President has in mind is an overwhelming determinant in what the VP does. Yes, she expressed herself a bit awkwardly, but there was so much more of real substance that was deeply problematic, it simply seemed wrong-headed to attack her on that.

Now, however, we have her making delusional claims that the VP runs the Senate!

Remember when her utter cluelessness was sacred, and anyone who questioned it was an elitist snob?  Nowadays, not so much, as Chris Matthews-of all people!-just wouldn't let go:

And, over at TPM, Josh commented:

In an interview on Monday afternoon, when asked what the vice president does, Palin said (emphasis added) ...

    A vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the teammate to that president, but also they're in charge of the United States Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job.

Now as you can see from the question, and as the McCain campaign has been pushing aggressively, the interviewer had read a question from a third grader. So the argument is that she wasn't giving a serious or exact answer since the question itself was from a child. I flag this point because I want to be fair and give their argument. But I don't think that adds up. A vice presidential candidate doesn't invent extra-constitutional powers in a tv interview to humor a child she hasn't even met. An interview is an interviewer. I think she's just out of it.

But, of course, the sort of nonsensical "explanation" that Josh rips through has been entirely standard for decades now.  GOP explanations don't have to stand up, they just have to be accepted as valid at face value.  Next question.  Only now the wheels have come off.

[Not] Joe the [Not] Plumber

So much has been written about "Joe the Plumber", what can I say?  Only that a typical bogus "Reagan Democrat" narrative got shot down so fast that while I was driving to the store on Monday morning, I just happened to have my radio tuned to a commercial rock station that segued between songs something like: "This string of uninterrupted songs is as unliscened as Joe the Plumber."

Forget Leno, everyone in America who's even heard of a funnybone is making jokes about him.  Like I just said, the wheels have come off.

That's what a realignment is all about.  The old narratives lose their power.  For many, it's not even necessary to refute them.  You can just laugh.  Most times, like now, there's a good deal of pain involved, so the laughs are often bitter ones.  But they resonate more deeply than arguments do.  For no one is yet certain of what comes next. We only know that-contra Faulkner-this time the past really is the past, and it isn't coming back.

The punditalkcrazy still doesn't get it.  They are still warning Obama that "it's a center-right country, and he better not forget it!"  Its a favorite trope of the bipartisan narrative, particularly right now, as the wignut narrative goes down in flames.  The wignut narrative and the bipartisan narrative are not the same, merely symbiotic.They conspire together to exclude the reality-based DFHs who inhabit the blogosphere, as well as ever-increasing patches of georgraphy in both the "real" and "fake" parts of America.

Just because the wignut narrative is falling apart, we should not make any assumptions about the bipartisan narrative, particularls since Obama himself is a fequent-though not constant-enthusiast of it.  But if one narrative can fall from grace to guffaws so quickly, so can another one.


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Going to Washington? (0.00 / 0)
If Ted Stevens is a) elected b) convicted c) does time will Sarah appoint herself to the seat?  Her kids are too young (no Frank Murlowski bit there)?  It would let her have an everyday effect on the Senate and give her more time to wear all those cool clothes.

Of course, there's always either husband Todd or permanent Plan B Sean Parnell.


If Stevens Is Convicted (4.00 / 1)
Then chances of his election plummet below zero.

Palin could still appoint herself ambassador to the Galactic Federation, though.  After Alaska secedes.

Not that the Federation would accept her.  Prime directive and all that. But she could appoint herself, anyways.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Good Stuff! (4.00 / 2)
All I can say is that I'm relishing the "pure delicious crazy" I get to hear on AM talk radio these days. Frakking scared to death these people are and I love it.

They never wore power well and they wear disgace even worse.  

Laugh hard. Its a long ways to the bank.  


Newsweek (4.00 / 2)
Pisses me off.

Great journalism, right there.

Naturally they've forgotten to mention the Democratic gains made during Republican administrations. Although I don't see why it would be so hard to forget, it just happened in 2006...


So now we can without hesitation say (4.00 / 3)
it's a center-left country. Or harder but better a center-progressive country.

Jeff Wegerson

Joe the Plumber resonating in Florida (0.00 / 0)
Are we counting our chickens before they've hatched....could be...and if Joe is resonating in Florida then he could be working for McCain in Ohio, Colorado and Virginia.  there are lots of Joe the plumbers...people who are barely middle class, but want to keep taxes low because someday they too might be rich.

Combine this with Republican under the radar robocalling and under/pver the radar voter suppression....we're countin our chickens while they're still just eggs.

I grew up on a chicken farm...it's a metaphor I understand.

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Joe the Plumber has hurt Obama in Florida, new poll finds
Marc Caputo | Miami Herald
last updated: October 22, 2008 04:50:14 PM

Make way Barack Obama and Sarah Palin -- it looks like there's another polling phenomenon in Florida: The Joe the Plumber Effect.

As he pounds Obama for telling America's most famous handyman that he wants to ''spread the wealth around,'' John McCain is improving his standing in Florida, with a Wednesday poll showing the Republican presidential candidate with a 1 percentage-point lead.

The Mason-Dixon Polling and Research survey shows McCain's numbers have remained static at 46 percent since early October, while Obama's support has decreased three percentage points to 45.

The results mirror three other Florida polls this week that, taken together, show the race is dead even as Democratic nominee Obama's momentum appears to have slowed.

Not only does the economic crisis -- a benefit to Obama -- no longer lead the news casts, McCain has finally seized on a pocketbook issue by using the plumber to talk taxes, welfare and socialism, said Mason-Dixon pollster Brad Coker.

''Joe the Plumber created the situation where Obama made a public relations mistake about spreading the wealth around,'' Coker said. ``So there's a Joe the Plumber Effect to the degree that McCain finally found some sort of economic message that people can relate to -- taxes.''

Read the full story at MiamiHerald.com.



"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


Back To Reality (4.00 / 1)
The Miami Hearald piece is a symptom of what I'm talking about.

Here's Pollster.com on Florida:

And Ohio:

And, oh heck, why not? North Carolina:




"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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my mode is worry (0.00 / 0)
and I remember the confidence in 2004...admittedly John Kerry was never 5-7 points ahead.  And John was running in a climate where terrorism was still really dominating the zeitgeist, (I was at the speech in Palm Beach with John when Osama ben laden relelased his statement praising Democrats..my heart sank)  And Barack Obama is running in the midst of the biggest economic crisis since the Depression.

So someone needs to worry...and the Republicans have screwed the voting process even more than 2004.  And Florida is one state that there was no Democratic field prescence until very late because of the terrible decision the DNC made re Fla.  

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


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The narrative succession (4.00 / 3)
You're so right about the collapse of the wingnut narrative coalescing into a stronger stand for "bipartisanship." Glenn Greenwald has more on this today as he describes the latest outrageous war plan against Iran as a "bipartisan" construction of "numerous hard-core, right-wing ideologues sprinkled with a couple of like-minded right-wing Democrats and a neutral establishment technocrat or two." The fact that most of Versailles still considers the alliance of neocons, representatives of the MI complex, and entrenched DC courtisans to be the only source of Serious perspectives on issues is going to make it very difficult to launch a progressive agenda. But as the economy collapses, unemployment rises, more people are tossed from their homes, and events abroad continue to appear more dire, maybe "bipartisanship" becomes as equally a laughable narrative as wingnut conservatism. I wish it didn't have to come about through such widespread misery of the populace though. Because that too can lead to equally dangerous new narratives,like how fascisim arose in 1930's Europe.

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You're Absolutely Right! (4.00 / 3)
The collapse of one narrative is no guarantee whatsoever of what will take its place.

We have a lot of work to do to make sure we head in a reality-based direction this time out.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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President of the Senate (0.00 / 0)
You are going to hate me for this, but I actually Palin is closer to correct than the backlash against her.  {ducks to avoid flying tomatoes}

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

What is Constitutional and what results from historic accident, president and tradition is not obvious at first glance.

For example, the Senate Majority Leader wields huge amounts of power, but does not appear the Constitution at all, other than vaguely under the right of the Senate to vote for officers.

I've often wondered why no VP has tried to expand the power of "President of the Senate" which the the Constitution leaves undefined other than to allow for tie breaking votes, which mathematically is no different than a normal vote.  (Well, other than the ability to create ties, but that can't happen unless someone doesn't show up for the vote, so doesn't represent real, long term power.)

Until the Palin thing came up, I never bothered to check on this, but now I have.  It turns out the accident of history goes back to the very first VP, John Adams:

There is a strong convention within the U.S. Senate that the vice president not use his or her position as President of the Senate to influence the passage of legislation or act in a partisan manner, except in the case of breaking tie votes. As President of the Senate, John Adams cast twenty-nine tie-breaking votes... On at least one occasion he persuaded senators to vote against legislation that he opposed, and he frequently lectured the Senate on procedural and policy matters. Adams' political views and his active role in the Senate made him a natural target for critics of the Washington administration. Toward the end of his first term, as a result of a threatened resolution that would have silenced him except for procedural and policy matters, he began to exercise more restraint in the hope of realizing the goal shared by many of his successors: election in his own right as president of the United States of America.

[Emphasis mine; note the word "convention" in the first sentence.]  Also note the Adams used the position of President of the Senate in much the same way Palin says is appropriate.

I also learned that the the practice of presiding over the Senate on a regular basis only stopped in 1960.

Until the 1960s, it was common practice for the Vice President to preside over daily Senate sessions, so the President pro tempore rarely presided over the Senate unless the Vice Presidency became vacant.

So all this talk about Palin not understanding the Constitution is pretty much bunk.

Now, that said, if Palin actually tried to exercise this kind of power she would pretty much be laughed out of the chamber.  The tradition of a weak VP in the Senate is firmly established at this point in time.  Perhaps someone like Biden who really understands Senatorial rules could pull it off, but Palin would have no chance.  But the reason isn't the Constitution, the reason is historical president and established tradition, a history that could have easily taken a different turn under the same Constitution.


Not Exactly (4.00 / 1)
Chris Matthews, for once, did a very good job of exposing the flaws of Palin's answer.  You get points, I suppose, for putting up a valiant high school speech & debate-style response, but ultimately, no dice.

Even Adams, as described in his most rambunctious phase didn't try to "really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes".  He tried to influence the final votes, which is a far cry from what Palin is suggesting.  While such action could be construed as permissible under the guise of "presiding," getting down and dirty in the creation of legislation most certainly could not.

The traditional 19th Centruy view was that the office wasn't worth a warm bucket of spit, and unless (a) the President dies or (b) the President delegates a lot of stuff for the VP to do, that remains true to this day.  The only real difference is that it seems a lot more promising a path to the top, but that's mostly a result of changes in party politics, not anything to do with official duties.


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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"No authority" (0.00 / 0)
Actually, Matthews claims the Constitution says the VP "will have no authority except to break a tie."  But I just quoted the Constitution above and that is not what it says.  The Constitution only explains how the vote works but is mute on authority.  Matthews had to change the wording of the Constitution to make his point.

Even Matthews ultimately makes my point when he talks about Johnson trying to keep the same power as he had as majority leader but being shut out.  It is president and the internal power structure of the Senate, not the Constitution that stopped him.

Also, the Constitution does not allow legislation to start in the Executive branch, but we all know that modern legislation starts in the Executive branch all the time.  Not formally, of course, but it does, as the president puts forth his legislative agenda and works directly with lawmakers to get what he wants.  It certainly isn't hard to imagine the VP taking the traditional role of this process.  In fact, this is exactly the role Biden claims he will take.

So I stand by my claim that this is not a case about the Constitution, but about accepted practice and historical accident.


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Nit Picking (4.00 / 1)
Even Matthews ultimately makes my point when he talks about Johnson trying to keep the same power as he had as majority leader but being shut out.  It is president and the internal power structure of the Senate, not the Constitution that stopped him.

Precedent & the internal power structure of the Senate stopped him precisely because he had no authority under the Constitution.  What's more, the authority to preside is itself subject to Senate rules about what the presiding officer can do.

As for your later point:

the president puts forth his legislative agenda and works directly with lawmakers to get what he wants.  It certainly isn't hard to imagine the VP taking the traditional role of this process.

This is certainly true, and it's one of the things that all members of the Executive may be called on to do.  But the VP has no particular special role in this.  It is strictly at the pleasure of the President.  Other executive officers, however, do have specific areas of responsibility defined by law.  So the VP has considerably less of an official role to play.

In short, Palin would have been on solid ground had she said something like the following:

A vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the teammate to that president, but also they also preside over the United States Senate. There's not much of a formal role there, but John McCain has told me that he wants me to act as his personal liaison.  So he wants me to really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job.

Now, given McCain's long history in the Senate, and Palin's blithering idiothood, this might well rankle some Senators something fierce.  But it wouldn just be another stupid idea from the McCain campaign, nothing more. It would not be the sort of answer that would cause you to flunk a high school civics course.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I imagine this is what Cheney envisions (0.00 / 0)
when he gets to choose what branch of government he is in, and, as with Cheney's position, it is problematical and unprecedented.

I would find it less ridiculous if Cheney said what Palin did, because he could probably follow up a defense rather like yours.  There is a vast difference between speaking out of intelligent, insincere calculation and taking the same position out of appalling ignorance.


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Dictionary police (0.00 / 0)
"precedent" (accepted practice based on history), not "president"

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But, but IT PASSED THE SPELL CHECKER (0.00 / 0)
I'm usually happy to just get a word close enough that the spell checker can guess what I mean.  Sometimes I'll spend several minutes right clicking an underlined word, hoping the correct version will show up on my list, only to try another random combination of letters.

Yes, I really can be that pitiful at times.



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Great post (0.00 / 0)
BTW, great post.  I agree with basically the whole thing other than my rant on the Constitution above, which has nothing to do with the central point of your post.

Thanks Mark (0.00 / 0)
I enjoy you raising those points, even though I think you're clearly mistaken in the point you're trying to get to.

It would have been interesting to see you challenge Matthews, 'cause it's usually the case that he can't back up what he says very well, even when he is right.  I have no idea if he would have grasped the distinctions I've drawn.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Bipartisan bullshit and fighting back (4.00 / 2)
Yeah, it's all scorched earth policy until they lose the majority, then all the cowardly Rethuglican rats and their corporate media lapdogs suddenly find Jesus and start pleading for bipartisanship.

If the election isn't stolen and the Dems are lucky enough to win the White House and with a strong majority in Congress, I desperately fear the lingering effects of battered spouse syndrome. It's a toxic mixture of the Dems' natural inclination to never play hardball combined with the media telling them how cautiously conservative they need to be.

Even in victory we've got our work cut out for us. The central question is this: with so many crises that need to be addressed, and so many fires that need to be put out (not the least of which is the one currently sending our Constitution up in flames), how do we approach taking back our country in a way that actually moves things forward? If we aren't smart, our victory could quickly deteriorate into a hopeless cat herding situation. And instead of millions of people with one big populist "weapon for change", we've got a million people running around in circles with butter knives.


Re-alignment by whom? (4.00 / 2)
Al Giordano linked to this Howard Zinn video.

Zinn makes the crucial point that it's up to us to drive that realignment, instead of depending on Obama, the national Dem Party operatives, lobbyists, etc.

I'd say jobs creation and retirement security and mortgage foreclosure protection would be the most obvious places to build a progressive realignment movement.


New and Alternative Narratives (0.00 / 0)
We will be much in need of new stories to tell, new frameworks around which to organize them.  Among the first we need will be a retelling of the last 30 years or so, going back at least to the early Reagan years.  People need to know why assumptions that were popular, conventional wisdom and all, were false, and while now that so much of the old framework has collapsed, we can now see the errors of our ways, the fundamental errors in belief.  In essence we need to make all the sellers of unplanned, unregulated economics into a chorus line of little Hoovers who will serve us for a generation as examples.

We need to break an assumption that was put forward after 1989, and the collapse of Communism, namely that Freedom was mostly about unfettered capitalism and privatizing most Government Services.  Such is necessary as a precondition to examining and rejecting "free market fundamentalism" in all the various clothes it wears.  


Like all spiritually morose peoples (0.00 / 0)
Americans were not grateful and humble during good times, and will likely be nasty and venomous during bad; you are not prepared for the Obama era.

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