The Orwellian "Center": Rewriting 1992-1994

by: Paul Rosenberg

Mon Nov 03, 2008 at 18:15


Yesterday, Digby wrote about Matthew Dowd as an example of someone who had disappeared his own Bushian past, and was now sternly warning against Obama getting too carried away, and governing too far left, like Clinton did when he took office. She quotes Dowd:

I think everybody, including Bill Clinton himself, said that the mistake he made when he first took office was that he governed way too far to the left when he started and that after the Republicans took the house in 1994 he moved more to a centrist policy. that's when his numbers went way up, that's when he preserved his reelection. And if Barack Obama starts the same way Bill Clinton does that is a huge problem, I think.

It's good for the Republican party if he does that. But I think Barack Obama is going to have to govern to the center which is where the majority of the country is.

This almost identical to the line taken by Mark Penn cited by David earlier:

The history of 1992 contains a clear warning that a centre-left coalition can fall apart quickly if the policies are seen as too far left. In 1993, Mr Clinton raised taxes on the wealthy, adopted the "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the military, proposed and lost universal healthcare and adopted gun safety measures, banning assault rifles. (emphasis added)

This narrative is utterly and totally false.     And that's completely apart from the fact that 2008 is nothing like 1992.  But the biggest lie involves how the false narrative about 1992-94 obscures the connection between then and now.  

Paul Rosenberg :: The Orwellian "Center": Rewriting 1992-1994
The short version is that Clinton was a centrist, and his worst mistakes came from leaning too far to the right--most notably, pushing NAFTA. The assault weapons ban, in contrast, was hugely popular, (for example, 80-18 in a 6/94 ABC News Poll, and 79-19 five years later in 5/99), while the problem with his health care plan was his attempt to be too accomodating to insider interests, and failed to mobilize the considerable grassroots distress with the system at the time.  Far from being an extreme measure, "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" was a political comprise after Clinton got ambushed over his initial executive order.  Finally, Clinton's turning point in his political comeback came from Gingrich's extremist attempt to shut down the government.  Rather than crumpling, Clinton stood up to Gingrich, and his political fortunes improved from there on in.  Clinton was a master at mixing progressive and moderately conservative narratives, but his actions that turned the tide were clearly progressive--and popular.

Let's move on to the issue of connecting that time with our own.  When Clinton was elected in 1992, the dominant narrative at the time was that Clinton had shifted the party to the center--and this was going to be its salvation, nmaking the party "relevant" again.  This narrative was already suspect, given that Clinton had run an economic populist campaign ("Putting People First", "It's the economy, stupid", etc.) that was far more openly ideological than either Walter (I'm going to raise your taxes) Mondale or Michael ("It's about competence, not ideology") Dukakis--but when it came to governing, rather than campaigning, that narrative was on firmer ground.

Indeed, the biggest issue in terms of the larger political dynamic at the time was NAFTA--which Clinton passed in sharp opposition to his party's base and Congressional majority.  In Three's a Crowd: The Dynamic of Third Parties, Ross Perot, and Republican Resurgence, Ronald B. Rapoport and Walter J. Stone argue persuasively Clinton's embrace of NAFTA, and the humiliating treatment of Ross Perot that accompanied it, opened the way for Republicans to court the Perot vote and ride it to victory in the Congressional elections of 1994.  The NAFTA vote was most instructive on this point:

In the House, Dems opposed NAFTA, 156-102, while Republicans supported it, 132-43.  In the Senate, Democrats opposed NAFTA narrowly, 28-27, while Republicans embraced it, 34-10.  These votes were in late November, 1993.  They signalled the exact opposite of what the current Orwellian narrative claims about Clinton's first term.

Gingrich responded by crafting the "Contract with America" specifically with Perot voters in mind.  It had none of the religious right agenda in it.  Although most Americans never heard of the "Contract"--and most who had heard of it knew little about it--it served a useful function in terms of message discipline, and impacting Versailles narratives.   Yet, little of it got passed into law, and congressional Republicans moved decisively toward the social conservative direction--something most Perot voters weren't particularly keen on.

What happened, in essence, was that Clinton's ill-advised move to the corporate center created a huge populist opening for the GOP to accomplish a political realignment, by adopting Perot's reformist agenda--only they didn't really believe in it.  The reformist swing vote is still out there--as Chris noted back in his post-2004 election analysis, and Obama has tapped into as part of the story of how he won the nomination--as I diaried in May--and is positioned to win it all tomorrow.  This reformist vote is not particularly ideological in left/right terms, but it does have an inherent potential progressive affinity, as Chris argued back in 2004.

Just as Clinton made a fatal mistake, losing potential reformist support by championing NAFTA and betraying his economic populist roots, Obama could similarly create an opening for the Republicans--not by moving too far left, but by paying too much attention to the Versailles conventional wisdom, and trusting it, rather than his own distinctive progressive instincts--instincts that are different from Clinton's, but similar in their potential for connecting with folks that the Versailles punditalkcazy will never understand.


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Not only NAFTA but getting nothing for it. (4.00 / 2)
I still believe he thought, the corporate sector would be so happy he gave them NAFTA that they would return the favor on Health Care.  This was a whopping blunder.  

At the very least, support for NAFTA should have been withheld as a quid pro quo for Universal Health Care - if not totally deep-sixed.

I always wonder why, in view of this history, so many invest Bill Clinton with super-smart political instincts.  He got took to the cleaners on that one.

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


He Was Tactically Smart (0.00 / 0)
but strategically, not so much, as you point out here.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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"Don't ask don't tell" (0.00 / 0)
was his biggest early mistake on two levels. First, it attempted to make a culture-war gesture before he'd established credibility on breadbasket domestic and foreign issues. Second, he caved into a silly compromise with the Right that helped fuel the "Slick Willy" meme even as it did very little real good for anybody. The whole botched attempt made him look weak and untrustworthy to all sides.

To me, his health care thing had a similar problem. He tried so hard to head off rightwing attacks that his plan became almost incomprehensible. Instead of standing uncompromisingly for the simple, basic right of all Americans to decent healthcare he allowed the Right to seize control of the debate. For all his reputation as a persuader, he wasn't very good at rallying the base or the indifferent to his view, even though a huge majority wanted universal healthcare.

I think there's a good chance that Obama, for all his talk of bipartisan, etc., will be different because he does know how to sell his vision, how to get the message, the insider politics, and the timing right. He is a pragmatic politician who can, unlike 99 percent of Dems, communicate why this or that policy works in the interest of the average American. He will have a horrific balancing act to perform, given the WMD-size boobytrap Bush and the GOP leave behind. Fortunately, judging by his campaign, Obama is also one of very few with the smarts and savvy to handle the challenge.


Gays in the military (0.00 / 0)
The "overreach" meme seems a close approximation to the truth is with the gays in the military.  Clinton once said he honestly didn't expect much resistance; he'd just issue an order and be done with it.

I don't have a real opinion on whether it was better (politically speaking) if he went with the compromise he went with, put the whole plan on the backburner or just issued the order anyway, but I think it wasn't a great idea from the point of view of timing.  He needed to work on it slowly, build support through allies like Wes Clark (unknown at the time, but still a general always in favor of gays legally being in the military) and eventually issue the command after some trust and support had been built up.


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What I'm trying to get at (0.00 / 0)
is that he needed to have some successes on issues he could sell to a broad base and build trust before he tackled divisive culture-war battles, and then ended with weak compromise that didn't make for any new thinking. I think Obama will do it better.

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Clinton Got Snookered (0.00 / 0)
Clinton had talked about this during the campaign, and never got attacked for it.  That's why he thought it was something non-controversial he could do right away without any problem.  There had also been a study supporting what he did, though he never seemed to be aware of it.  So it was a combination of factors.

Mostly, it was an opportunity for Versailles to put a redneck hick in his place.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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I was a teen at the time (4.00 / 1)
But I seem to remember that the GOP, led by Bob Dole, filibustered many of Clinton's top progressive priorities. Then in 1994, the GOP ran against the "do-nothing Democrats" with their Contract for America.

I found it incredibly hypocritical of the GOP.  First stop Clinton's priorities by saying no to everything (with the help of southern Democrats and Bob Kerrey types), then run against the do-nothing Congress.

If Dems want to avoid this previous fate, they simply need to Get Shit Passed. Half the reason the Congress has such a low approval rating right now (in addition to their failure to stop Bush) is that so much popular legislation is stopped or watered down in the Senate.


Yes (0.00 / 0)
That was a lot of it.  Although they didn't go into full obstruction mode until after the NAFTA vote.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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"health care plan was [...] too accomodating to insider interests"? (0.00 / 0)
Sry, Paul, but this seems to be wrong. Somewhere at Brad DeLong's blog is the famous insider account of the failed health care plan, and it very convincingly shows that the bill went down because it was a too radical approach for the health care lobby, which promptly went up in arms against it, and that the concerns of the Senate and the House weren't taken care of. The core of the problem was the inexperience of the Clinton team managing it. They wanted to much too soon, but they sure weren't "too accomodating to insider interests".  

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

I'll buy the inexperience part, (4.00 / 2)
but ANY kind of healthcare plan that doesn't create and sustain the insurance leeches to the tune of $billions is going to be "too radical". He just lacked the skill or the motivation, or both, to sell the plan. I've never been entirely certain that he really cared very much -- that being seen making the effort wasn't what really mattered.

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Read more about it here: (0.00 / 0)
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/...

And you may have a point that ANY progressive plan is going to be too radical, but then, this is the total opposite of what Paul wrote. Thx for supporting my view.


Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter


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You're Misreading DaveW (0.00 / 0)
He said that any plan that cut off the industy's gravy train would be "too radical."  (Scare quotes.  Get it?)

Meaning that that's how it would be portrayed.  Meaning that in order to pass anything meaningful, you had to be prepared to fight, and not buy into their BS.

Meaning he's not supporting your position at all.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Who said they bought into the industries bullshit? (0.00 / 0)
If it were so, why did the lobby spend millions fighting it? Now, come on, Paul, I have dug out a first hand account that mentions lots of problems, but "insider interests" aren't among them. Can you pls come up with something of similar weight supporting your view, pls?

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

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Brad DeLong Has An Insider's Perspective Himself (0.00 / 0)
So I take it with a shaker of salt.

Your logic flawed for two basic reasons: (1) there were lots of different insiders, with different sets of competing and complementary interests.  (2) everyone involved was spending money to make it more favorable to them, and to kill off anything threatening.

There was not just one monolithic "health care industry," and, in fact the Clinton strategy depended on making different appeals to different players, in some cases playing them off against each other.  It was very clever inside baseball.  But, unfortunately, inside baseball was the wrong game to be playing.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Was You There, Charley??? (4.00 / 2)
DaveW nails it completely.

Every step of the way, the DFHs were told to shut up and let the grownups do it, that letting us into the process would queer the deal, etc., etc., etc.  And all that excluding us did in the end was deprive them of support when they got slandered from here to Timbuktu.

Here's just one basic fact: before Clinton did anything at all, there was a single-payer bill in the House with around 100 co-sponsors.  If he'd been willing to use that as a starting point, then he would have had some real bargaining power.  As it was, he started from a position of giving away the store, and then proceeded to give away the whole damn shopping district... all to no avail.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Well, Brad was there... (0.00 / 0)
and, like I said, I find his account convincing. Btw, wasn't Mike Lux there, too? and everybody seems to agree it was a big screwup. But "too accomodating to insider interests"??? That's sruprising. Reports say the healthcare lobby and the industry spend millions of dollars advocating against it. So, what "insider interests", pls?

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

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They Were Trying To Accomodate Some Insiders More Than Others (0.00 / 0)
and they left the outsiders totally on the outside.  In the begining, most insiders assumed that something was going to happen, so they went along to some degree or another.    But through a number of twists and turns, more and more of them became convinced that they'd get more by opposing than supporting.  Then the GOP as a whole took that position, and it was basically over from that point on.

Yes, this is an extreme simplification.  But it captures the essence of what went down.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Uh huh. Well, if this was wikipedia, you wouldn't get away with this (0.00 / 0)
regarding the lack of evidence supporting this view, and the fuzzy, unexplained phrases "insiders" and "outsiders". But ok, this is not wikipedia and it's too late (here in Germany) to start a long struggle. Not that important, either. After all, this is 2008, not 1992, and hopefully there will be a better healthcare bill in 2009 or 2010.
Good night.

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter

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Exactly! (0.00 / 0)
But ok, this is not wikipedia and it's too late (here in Germany) to start a long struggle. Not that important, either.

Which is why I didn't bother to go all source ninja on you in the first place.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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You would go Ninja, I would go Jujutsu... (0.00 / 0)
And what would be gained from this? After all, what I dared to criticize here is a single sentence in your story which makes it sound as if the Clinton's sold out to the healthcare industry, and that this was the reason why they failed. Now, even Mike Lux' personal story of the Hilarycare desaster shows that there were many more reasons the plan failed, and he doesn't sound like being too ACCOMODATING to insider interests was the core of the problem:

We were trying to balance the health care issue, as vital as it was to the President and Congressional leadership, with all of the other tough issue battles we wanted to take on (the budget fight, NAFTA, welfare reform, campaign finance reform, the crime bill, etc.); and we were facing some of the biggest, most determined, intransigent, well- financed, and strategically savvy special interests in American politics. The right-wing infrastructure was in full scale howl against us.  Only an Administration with incredible focus, discipline, experience, plus a fair amount of luck could have pulled it off, and we obviously didn't have enough of any of those qualities.

well, pls don't say that Mike's honest, unflattering, personal account has to be taken with a "shaker of salt", too. However, ok, ONE of the reasons for failure was the disability to build a coalition out of all insider interests involved. But his list of the insider interests is VERY interesting and doesn't show the Clinton's as corporate dogs at all:

• The AFL-CIO and its affiliate unions
• The National Education Association
• AARP, National Council of Senior Citizens and other senior citizens groups
• Consumer groups like Citizen Action, Consumers Union, and Consumer Federation of America
• American Nurses Association and other nurses groups
• Pharmacists groups such as the retail druggists and the chain drug stores
• General practice and family practice doctor's groups
• Civil rights organizations
• Women's groups
• Voluntary health groups such as the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association
• Big manufacturing companies whose health care costs had sky-rocketed in recent years such as automakers, steel companies, and airlines.
• Certain non-profit hospital groups, such as the Catholic Health Association and the Children's Hospitals

http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

Now, even from a very progressive point of view, is there anything wrong with "accomodating" these "insider interests"? Certainly not!

So, wouldn't it have been better to be a bit more detailed about this instead of simply saying "the problem with his health care plan was his attempt to be too accomodating to insider interests", which sounds as if Clinton sold out to the business? And isn't it possible that commenters here can score a minor point every now and then, if they have evidence supporting their view? Excuse me pls, but somehow I have the feeling that you would rather start a ninja fight than acknoledge that something may be improvable in your story...
:-/

P.S.: No misunderstanding pls, I don't try to argue two ways, my argument, in short, is this:
1. Trying to be too accomodating to insider interests wasn't the main reason for failure, and first hand accounts show this.
2. Even if someone has a different opinion about 1), it has to be pointed out that the "insider interests" that the Clintons tried to get on board consisted overwhelmingly of organisations that are close to the progressive movement, and not purely business lobbies.  

Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested, we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back, nor did we falter


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the Clinton health care plan was a mess (4.00 / 1)
The text of the bill ran to a thousand pages. It relied on an extremely involved system of rules regulating HMOs in order to ensure universal coverage. It was not "radical"--it was a bureaucratic, technical solution to the problem that made things far more complicated than they needed to be.

It's not a surprise that no one was satisfied with something that complicated, or even understood what it meant. Neither the left nor the right liked it, so it went down to defeat after heavy industry lobbying.

There was a single-payer health care bill floating around Congress at the same time. But of course, something like that could never pass Congress short of another Great Depression.  


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Things being expensive (0.00 / 0)
is usually a problem of supply and demand.

The payer makes little difference.

If the Federal Government started opening medical schools until the market was flooded, the price of medicine would come down.

If older generics and procedures were made a legally viable standard of care, the price would come way down.

The problem, as with banking etc., is that we put the foxes in charge of the hen house and wonder why there are no hens.

Denude the AMA and the pharmaceuticals of government protection and let a free market flourish.

As I like to say, the best social program is a good job; when adults have good jobs, they can pay for their own health care (again, if supply isn't artificially constricted by the AMA and Big Pharma).


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Nowhere In The World Is This So (4.00 / 2)
There's nowhere in the world that any large percentage of people pay for their own health care.  Some form of social insurance--along the lines of universal Medicare--is by far the most common way for people to get health care.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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no (4.00 / 1)
Because insurance still has the incentive to exclude the not-healthy, and the super-healthy have incentive not to buy insurance.

Insurance companies don't make money by paying for care.  Health care is a complete market failure.


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this is incorrect (0.00 / 0)
is usually a problem of supply and demand.

The payer makes little difference.

What single-payer does is give inordinate power to demand and less  power to supply - i.e. it leverages the power of the government to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies, doctors, etc. which consequently will reduce prices.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with this as a political choice and economically, i think it would make far more sense than what happened, which was to introduce layers and layers of middlemen who do nothing except capture rents (okay, and administrate and f@#k things up in terms of care).  

This is why it is always opposed by people who have interests in the market - because it will reduce profits.  Health care costs the mosts for certain subpopulations (like the elderly or catastrophic care) and less for others (like most working age adults) and so insurers have an inherent motivation to either not provide care or raise premiums inordinately on those who are likely to use it and profit the most on premiums from  the healthy.  As a result, the system as a whole suffers both for people on the margins and in the overall cost when you add it all together.  There's a lot of waste in the American system of financing and providing health care and at the same time a lot of poor medical treatment (like overprescribing anti depressants on the one hand and not providing enough preventive care on the other hand).

There are other people who have other reasons for opposing single-payer health care, but I don't find any of them particularly convincing.


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Let's Not Forget (0.00 / 0)
when it comes to pharmaceuticals, the enormous role of government funding on basic research, that provides the basic infrastructure on which all their fortunes are built.  It's not exactly as if the people as a whole have no moral claim in all this.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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Bless you Paul (4.00 / 3)
This point, this retrieval of actual history from the dumpster, is so, so necessary right now.

You nailed it Paul (4.00 / 1)
This is a fantastic - and completely accurate - post. This history has been buried under the DLC interpretation. But it's the real history of what happened.  

Uh oh (0.00 / 0)
I think someone needs a vistit to the DLC Re-Education Center.

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There you go again, Paul (4.00 / 3)
with all your facts and history and examples. Why do you always have to be such an elitist?

The Dems ignore the made up lessons of a made up history at their peril.

The meme has already been established. Get with the program.


Ah, so many false memes, so little time to refute... (4.00 / 3)
This election cycle must have set a record for them:

--ACORN will steal the election
--ACORN, the CRA, Dems, poor blacks and illegal aliens caused the meltdown
--Obama is the most radically far-left liberal in congress
--Pelosi & Reid, who are even more radically far-left liberal (huh?!?) are pulling him even more to the left
--The media, which is in the tank for Obama, will win the election for him (ACORN protests!)
--Obama is a secret Muslim and terrorist sympathizer, and possibly the antichrist
--Dems are winning because they're moving to the center
--Repubs are losing because they're not living up to their standards
--Repubs are losing because Bush is unpopular
--It's a center-right country
--Dems had better not go too far to the left or else they'll lose power
--The country wants bipartisanship, of the Broderite sort
--Palin has more experience than Obama
--The dingo stole my baby

Any others I've missed? There are so many this year.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


THis is only half-right. (4.00 / 1)
What hurt was not just not getting shit done, especially on health care.

The gun legislation was classic liberal agenda item, and was one of the motivating factors in 1994. The gays in the military hurt too, especially the bad implementation that made it clinton vs. the military.

The failure of any economic agenda - no health care plus NAFTA, together with culture issues that were meat for the right-wing, were what cause the huge congressional losses.  


Oh Yeah! (4.00 / 1)
The gun legislation was classic liberal agenda item, and was one of the motivating factors in 1994.

That 18% who opposed the assault weapons ban just killed the Democrats in 1994!

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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we don't need to look to Clinton (4.00 / 3)
to see how Obama will move his legislative agenda. He has already shown how he will do it as a senator and as the nominee.

For example, Obama introduced a bill that provided for funding for R&D on coal-to-liquid fuels--an extremely expensive and highly polluting method for creating synthetic gasoline out of coal.

When environmentalists heard this, they were furious. To mollify them, Obama tacked on a proviso that stated that he wouldn't support the legislation unless it the resulting fuels emitted "20% less life-cycle carbon" than other fuels. But in order to do that, the fuel would have to be incredibly expensive--the only way to make it reasonably priced would be to subsidize it very heavily with federal money. Which defeats the entire purpose.

If this is how Obama is going to do things when he's president--pander to industry, slap on a meaningless Band-Aid to quiet down other constituencies when they raise a fuss, then repeat as often as necessary to get the bill passed--I expect the products of his legislative agenda to make Clinton's look like positively transparent and marvelous pieces of lawmaking by comparison.


Don't forget the General Social Survey results... (4.00 / 2)
Paul,

I'd also encourage people to read your posts on the General Social Survey results which for decades have shown most Americans support progressive spending priorities, certainly far more than the media and pundits would have you believe. Here's the link to your posts on the Survey:

http://www.openleft.com/tag.do...

Indeed, I'd encourage people to write letters to the editor early and often pointing out the Survey and asking why their editors and journalists are ignorant of such a neutral and obvious resource on the question of where Americans are in terms of their support of social spending.

The Survey plus the disaster of the Bush Administration should be refutation enough for anyone who thinks right of center is the center. It isn't.

Tim


Wasn't (0.00 / 0)
Obama's whole shtick that Red + Blue = Purple?

That doesn't sound too Progressive to me.

But I guess not having the secret police hauling one's family off to the camps would be considered progress in some eras.

Obama buys us time; we need to use that time to strengthen the elite consensus for a non-hellish vision for the 21st Century.

Even though Obama joined the "lie us into war camp" as recently as August's Georgia invasion of South Ossetia, and even thought he voted for the stupid stupid stupid bailout, and even though he promises a la Kerry that he will fight "the perfect war" in Afghanistan, I will likely vote for him simply because the rhetoric out of the right wing is pissing me off. (Shame is a sine qua non of being human, they have none)

That is uncharacteristically Manichaean of me, but they force my hand.


Ok, get your point (0.00 / 0)
but when you lapse into your private code with expressions like "Versailles punditalkcazy" you might as well just leave a blank space on the page. Your private language isn't English.  I really wish you would get past that.

Changing The Language Is One Of Our Most Important Tasks (0.00 / 0)
The parallel between our political elites today and the court at Versailles just before the French Revolution is one that can never be stressed too often.

I'm sorry if this bothers you.  It bothers me too.  

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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