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The problem always was ... (4.00 / 3)

Clinton didn't do himself any favors .. I mean look at the people in his orbit(at some time or another) .. Lanny Davis .. Mark Penn .. Dick Morris .. going to bat for HoJo the night of the CT on Larry King .. and if Clinton was such a liberal .. why NAFTA? .. why belong to the DLC? .. those are some questions I wish he was asked

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by: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 23:22:13 PM CDT

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Yeah (4.00 / 1)

He managed to surround himself with some unsavory characters. Carter had a bit of that problem, too.

However, I think you can (or could) be a traditional liberal and support NAFTA and be a hawk on foreign policy. Kennedy and LBJ were liberals as far a civil rights go, but did some pretty bad stuff with foreign policy.

Having a deep understanding of the fact that war is always wrong is something that is new for liberalism.

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by: Mark Wallace @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 23:37:36 PM CDT

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I see... so support for NAFTA, a murderous foreign policy, and the beginnings (4.00 / 1)

of the use of the "ticking-bomb scenario" to defend torture (Clinton did it first). Pray tell, where is "liberalism" contained?  

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by: jcr @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 23:42:30 PM CDT

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