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While I want Obama to look closely at what his religion teaches and what these wonderful people you have quoted are saying. (0.00 / 0)

I think it is not helpful, not true and not a good idea to suggest that this man, who while I disagree with him in much the same you do so eloquently so often, I have absolutely no doubt that he is a good man, trying to do what his understanding and faith tell him he must do. His religion is not a pretence.

While what he could be doing is obviously less than could be done, and he needs reminding and pressure to think more clearly, feel more deeply and act more courageously, he is a genuine man of conviction.

I understand your anger, and the need to press more and press better and the need to delineate most clearly what failure is being made, but I think casting doubt on Obama's religion is not on. It is not my faith, but one honestly held.

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"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.

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by: HousesofProgress @ Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 15:24:03 PM CDT

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He Bombed And Killed Civilians His First Week In Office (0.00 / 0)

So, as with Bush, the question becomes: Who would Jesus bomb?

Religion is almost always a pretense.  The wise man knows this and struggles against it constantly.

It can't be otherwise.  God is, by definition, unknowable.  Religion is, at best, a likely story.

But politicians routinely add at least another layer of pretense on top.

Just one more reason to separate church and state: to keep religion as free of pretense as possible.

Sure it's a losing proposition. But no need to let the other side run up the score.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 16:10:45 PM CDT

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It seems fair game enough to question the nature of others's faith, given (4.00 / 1)

that Jesus did; I wouldn't think that it's the same as suggesting one's faith is a "pretense." Faith, after all, should demand inquiry. I tend to think Obama's comment r.e. the Special Olympics, while widely condoned within the netroots, was in fact quite revelatory. Either you believe some individuals are inherently more worthwhile or you don't. It's no small matter. I call that un-Christian; while, as pointed out above, many, perhaps a majority, would not.  

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by: sb @ Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 17:34:28 PM CDT

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