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Brilliantly argued (4.00 / 9)

Thanks for taking the time to put this together because it definitely needs to be out there. I think AZDem's is what one might call a "specious" argument at best.

I don't know AZDem's gender or ethnicity or sexual orientation, but that sort of Zen-like posturing smacks of someone in the majority class who, lacking awareness of the inherent privileges they enjoy, sets themselves up as being "above it all" because they're not experiencing daily the business end of racism, sexism, etc.

In defense of at least some of the folks at DKos who rec'd AZDem's diary, often people will rec diaries not that they necessarily agree with, but that they think is worth having out there for discussion purposes. I know I've done that on occasion, but definitely not on that one. That one just made my head explode.

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by: Oaktown Girl @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 15:52:20 PM CDT

I Might Have Rec'd It Myself, Just To Argue Against It (4.00 / 6)

If I were still actively commenting there.  It does, after all, seem like such a perfect foil.

I don't know AZDem's gender or ethnicity or sexual orientation, but that sort of Zen-like posturing smacks of someone in the majority class who, lacking awareness of the inherent privileges they enjoy, sets themselves up as being "above it all" because they're not experiencing daily the business end of racism, sexism, etc.

I couldn't agree with you more.  It absolutely reeks of unrecognized, unacknowledged privilege.

"Yes, I know you're drowning, and these nice people over here have their boot on your head, pushing you down under the water, but that's no reason to be uncivil. There's never an excuse for bad manners."

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 16:26:55 PM CDT

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If Paul's criticism had been put in a comment in AZDem's diary hell would have started (4.00 / 5)

Paul would have been vilified, TR rated, abused verbally and maybe threatened, and watched, stalked after that to maybe force automatic banning in the future. Because we know Paul would not have taken it lying down, would have reasoned logically why they were not considering x,y, or z.

People at dkos often rec their "leaders" automatically to pile up recs. This gives them "mojo" when they go hunting in a pack against someone like Paul who disrupts their "certainlty from the left".

Finally we get a serious reasoned critique from someone about dkos's inferior intellectual arguments that never get challenged t their home site.

The Rude Pundit hit kos this week. In the balls as he is like to do.

We on the left must, I repeat must, keep pushing Obama. He is sensitive to criticism. He is taking us for granted. We must show him he cannot. And we must push for all the progressives in congress we can push for.  Those cheap ads Stoller(?) showed us how to do must become part of our strategy. A progressive congress group will push him too.

And remember Eleanor was far more progressive than FDR. And she left him notes on his bedside table every night about things he must attend to. She was his hair shirt. No wonder he ran to Lucy's arms.

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by: abbeysbooks @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 18:41:45 PM CDT

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do you have a link (0.00 / 0)

on rude pundit?

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by: Dameocrat @ Sat Jul 11, 2009 at 20:46:27 PM CDT

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Yep 7-10-09 (0.00 / 0)

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/  I haven't done a search at kos for PaulRosenberg as I don't know if he posted there, if he did did he use PR or a different ID? But I bet he got a lot of static and doesn't go there anymore.

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by: abbeysbooks @ Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 02:26:01 AM CDT

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Paul Rosenberg's DKos page (4.00 / 1)

http://www.dailykos.com/user/u...
User name: Paul Rosenberg

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by: Bruce Webb @ Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 10:22:59 AM CDT

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Thanks. Here are links to his last comments (0.00 / 0)

I didn't go more than one page as he was getting stupid attacks and giving logical defense answers to people who don't know how to read or listen. Just what I thought. He doesn't post there much at all after his initial forays where he finds out their mentality.

http://tinyurl.com/lou39q

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by: abbeysbooks @ Sun Jul 12, 2009 at 19:43:23 PM CDT

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