Cults And Culture

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 14:51


In my earlier diary, "Tales of the City Is Fiction--And Mythos", I responded to a post by Emptywheel, "The Count of Monte Cristo Was Not Fiction" primarily by shifting focus from the fiction/fact distinction, which I agree is culturally conditioned, to the mythos/logos distinction as laid out by Karen Armstrong in her book, The Battle For God.  In this diary, I want to advance another distinction, that between cults, which are deeply associated with mythos and culture, which properly functions to integrate mythos and logos.  

My argument is that culture is necessary to prevent cults from becoming dangerous, and that the current failure of the Democratic-controlled Congress to hold the Bush Administration responsible can be seen as part of a broader failure of culture to prevent such danger.

My specific focus involves three aspects of culture: consciousness, critical engagement, and the capacity to mediate.  By "consciousness," I mean an awareness of what narratives are doing, both as logos and mythos. This requires cognitive functioning at least at Kegan's Level 4, which takes the construction of social roles and relationships as object, on which it can reflect and act.  (See "The Political Duality Of Rep and Dem", section "Cognitive Complexity II: Kegan's Subject/Object Model.")  "Critical engagement" means that one not only has this capacity to reflect and act, but that one actually does so.  And the capacity to mediate means that the culture itself provides tools, up to the level of institutions, such as courts, schools, legislatures, research institutes, etc. which can be used individually and collectively to ensure, among other things that mythos does not swallow up everything else, and that logos does not crush the life out of mythos.  

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Recap

My previous diary ended with the following two paragraphs, which help establish the relationship between cults and culture I will elaborate on below:

For me, the issue is consciousness. At this point in history it's simply impossible to keep mythos and logos in separate containers.  Oh, you can do it sometimes quite well, there's no denying that.  And you should.  But there are simply far too many ways in which the two realms interpenetrate one another to ever put a stop to it, which is what Emptywheel's example of The Count of Monte Cristo says to me.

Fundamentalists are systematically dangerous precisely because they they're unconscious about how they have jumbled the two modes together.   It's not the jumbling per se that's dangerous--although it can be. But if one is conscious, if one can critically engage, then one can confront and deal with the danger.  These are key: consciousness, critical engagement, and the capacity to mediate, which implies an ability to hold others, and oneself accountable.  These are the essential elements of culture that allow us to collectively and collegially and socially sort out the various narratives by which we make and remake our world.

Cults

In my previous diary, I quoted a passage where Emptywheel talked about The Count of Monte Cristo in the context of multiple different types of narratives about Napoleon that were circulating in Paris at the time. I quote now from the end of that passage, and continue to the next paragraph:

All these narratives about Napoleon usually get described as the cultural phenomenon that was the "cult of Napoleon" but, as events would later prove, that cultural phenomenon was in no way fictional.

In a world in which Jack Bauer has greater influence over our detainee policies than all the FBI's best experts on interrogation methods, we would do well to avoid the trap of "fiction" and "non-fiction."

I want to focus here on the word "cult".  In the introduction to The Battle For God, Armstrong writes:

Myth only became a reality when it was embodied in cult, rituals, and ceremonies which worked aesthetically upon worshipers, evoking within them a sense of sacred significance and enabling them to apprehend the deeper currents of existence. Myth and cult were so inseparable that it is a matter of scholarly debate which came first: the mythical narrative or the rituals attached to it.

This is, of course, presicely what conservatives feared about Armistead Maupin's Tales of the City, as described in my previous diary.  There is no doubt that Maupin developed a cult following, and even though the same word might not mean exactly the same thing, or function in exactly the same way, one can also say that sharing the experience of reading his work most certainly did work aesthetically upon his readers, "evoking within them a sense of sacred significance and enabling them to apprehend the deeper currents of existence."

Indeed, this can be said about gay and lesbian literature generally.  The rapidity with which the gay and lesbian communities have formed has made the role of storytelling disproportionately more important than for other communities, but similar functions can clearly be seen in feminist, Black, Latino and other cultures.  Meaning-making through narratives is an integral part of collective and individual identity-formation and reformation in opposition to identities imposed from without.

Cultic Knowledge--"24" And More

Now, about Jack Bauer.  Can there be any other word for how his influence has spread than to refer to it in terms of a cult?    And is there anything wrong with "24" that couldn't be handled with what I called for above--consciousness, critical engagement, and the capacity to mediate?   That couldn't, in short, be handled by a truly healthy culture?  It is clearly not a matter of logos driving Jack Bauer's influence on American interrogators.  It most clearly is an unmediated mythic process quite in line with Armstrong's description:

Myth only became a reality when it was embodied in cult, rituals, and ceremonies which worked aesthetically upon worshippers, evoking within them a sense of sacred significance and enabling them to apprehend the deeper currents of existence.

It is precisely this sense of "sacred significance" and "apprehend[ing] the deeper currents of existence" that explains, at least in part, the utter contempt for democratic accountability--including consciousness, critical engagement, and capacity to mediate--that has run rampant throughout the Bush Administration.   This describes a wide range of different sorts of actors.  It is broadly applicable to the cultic mindset of neo-cons descended from Leo Strauss, for example, but it also describes the relatively simple-minded zealotry of a Monica Goodling, and the crabbed legal reasoning of a John Yoo, as well as the mindset of the actual hands-on interrogation/torture teams.

The challenge here is simple: we have an administration that functions based on cultic "knowledge."  As just indicated, the use of torture based on the model of "24" is but one example of this. And the administration itself is but a culmination of decades of movement conservatism, working through numerous different organizational and institutional forms, passing on various different forms of cultic "knowledge," and rationalizing the "protection" of such knowledge from any form of public scrutiny or accountability.

This is the big picture behind the Bush Administration's absolute refusal of any accountability to courts or Congress--the cult will not yield an inch to the critical and mediating demands of culture, which are absolutely necessary to safeguard the culture against takeover by cultic forces.  And this is the big picture behind the Democrats repeated failure--or more accurately, refusal--to act according to their constritutional duty: it is an abandonment of the responsibilities of culture.

I want to be quite clear, I do not believe that cults are necessarily evil.  They are not.  In fact, they can be tremendously life-affirming, sources of profound meaning and connectedness.  It is the failure to mediate their influence in various ways that facilitates the development of some cults into destructive channels.  It is the responsibility of culture to ensure that cults may flourish without destructive influence, either on individuals, groups, or society as a whole.

Today, our culture is so diseased, so overwhelmed with the pernicious influence of movement conservatism and its myriad cults, that it readily attacks as cults those who are least cult-like and most logos-oriented, while defending true cults from even most cursory form of scrutiny.  More generally, rational behavior is attacked as cultic, while cultic behavior is defended as beyond question.

Backstory

This is the great irony behind the rightwing obsession with the 1960s.  While the right entirely ignores the major social accomplishments of the 1960s--the end of legal segregation, the promotion of equal rights for women, the rebirth of the modern environmental and consumer protection movements, etc.--it obsesses endlessly over generally cultural, non-political behavior. that often had a more or less cultic flavor to it, broadly identified as the "counter-culture."  The right obsesses over the notion that the "counter-culture" has fundamentally corrupted the basically sound American culture--despite the fact that prior to the 1960s, white and male supremacy were endemic and rarely questioned.

Yet, for all its seemingly cultic character, the "counter-culture" produced very little in the way of enduring cults.  It disseminated its influence on the wider culture, to be sure, but this occurred primarily through processes of cultural diffusion, in which practices spread because they are fundamentally compatible with the broader culture into which they spread.

This was not immediately apparent, of course  There were intense narratives of otherness deployed against the youth "counter-culture."  But these narratives were almost entirely bogus.  Both the virtues and the flaws of the "counter-culture" had many more historical antecedents than the demonizing narratives of the time would admit, while what was new about it reflected a world-wide shift in values that would not become apparent until decades later with the advent of the World Values Survey. But even that shift in values had been anticipated by a long line of prominent American thinkers, from Tom Paine, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson to the Transcendentalists, Abolitionists, and anti-imperialists of the 19th Century, and so on.

In contrast to all this, however, it was the right that proceeded to organize itself along cultic lines, in ways that grew increasingly elaborate and well-funded over time. By the 1990s, this culminated in a widespread militia movement, an insular talk-radio empire, and a multi-faceted cultic attack on the President of the United States that nearly drove him from office.  Over and over again, plain facts were dismissed in favor of wild speculations, as documented by Gene Lyons in his book, Fools For Scandal and in the book he co-authored with Joe Conasan, The Hunting of the President.  At the same time, the overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming posed a real and growing threat to human civilization was dismissed as some sort of wild-eyed theory--as if the worlds climate scientists were all part of one big cult.

This was the background against which the Republicans stole the 2000 election, capped by a Supreme Court decision so lawless that it even declared itself not to be a precedent for any future decision.

But, of course when your worldview is entirely swallowed up in a cultic black hole, it is simply impossible to conceive of anything else.  The only alternative to Bush stealing the election is Gore stealing the election-not a fair election, determined according to existing laws and legal precedents.  And by the same cultic logic, since the Clinton impeachment was a baseless witch-hunt (whether admitted or not), any talk of impeaching Bush must also be a baseless witch-hunt.  For the cultic mindset, there simply is no possibility of any alternative. Mediating the excesses of cultic activity-by the constitutional system of checks and balances, or the scientific system of peer review-is simply inconceivable.  It must, instead, be a form of persecution from followers of another cult.

Thus, a crucial aspect of what we are fighting for today is the recreation of culture and its mediating functions, not to crush cultic practices, but merely to limit their destructive tendencies, which currently threaten to destroy the very Western Civilization they pretend to so vigorously defend.


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The cult of tax cutting (0.00 / 0)
I look around my little NH community and I see who is actually doing things to solve problems.  It's my Democratic women friends who are working to start a farmers market so we can provide a place for local farmers to sell, and become more self-sustaining in agriculture.  It's the local land trust, on whose board I serve, a group of "elitist" environmentalists, a number of them gay, who are trying to save the very earth and water that sustain us.  Etc., etc.  And on the other side....cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes.  Period.  Nothing else.  
Yet all of these folks would be appalled if i pointed out to the community at large who they are and where their political loyalties lie.  They would be convinced that they would lose all their community support.  So we can't tell people that Democrats do good work, and Republican make empty promises.  
How do I get past this?  I want to scream, "Look at what your local progressives are doing for you!"  But I fear they are right, and I will undermine the work they do.  And then the Republicans carry the day, and make the work harder and harder, and the very fabric of our lives is being ripped from us and our children.  I am so frustrated.
And believe me, this is on topic, tax cutting in NH is a cult!  

Oh, It's A Cult Allright (0.00 / 0)
"Voodoo Economics," as George HW Bush said, shortly before joining the cult.

And New Hampshire is hardly unusual, though it's politics is unusually intimate, so it may just be more obvious.

But if you go back in time, you'll see how this actually was promoted as a cult on the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal, and it was done with complete detachment from any sort of intellectual accountability.

As for the issue of "going public," I think we need a major campaign to rehabilitate the reputation of liberalism.  I know that Chris and other have argued that we should abandon the term in favor of "progressive," but as you indicate, even that's not seen as safe, and that's the way it will be until we remove the stigma attached to liberalism, whether or not that's our favorite term.

A very simple way to start this would be with a series of You Tube videos of ordinary and extraordinary people testifying to why they are liberals.  I'm talking short pieces that could easily be run as 30- or 60-second ads, with maybe a sprinkling of 2-minute pieces.


"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Dissociation (0.00 / 0)
Certainly some of the wariness of cults and of mythos must come from the sense that each will foment dissociation, i.e. the flip side to your point, "For me, the issue is consciousness."

            But I would think that politics also must be understood to foment dissociation. I suppose those are the times it would be considered "cultic," but I would guess that those moments are a lot less rare than we would like to believe. And, of course, the "cultic" label would most likely apply to politics at its best and its worst.

       At any rate, this is a great discussion. Thanks.
 


Precisely My Point! (0.00 / 0)
And, of course, the "cultic" label would most likely apply to politics at its best and its worst.

Cults are not inherently evil, but they are frequently incredibly powerful in the influence they wield, making them potentially quite dangerous. (Kool aid, anyone?)

But cultic energy can also be a powerful force for good. Put simply, it's just not rational to devote years of your life to a struggle like abolishing slavery, unless you yourself are a slave.  Based on purely rational calculations, virtually no progressive political goals would ever be acheived.  Mythos--the realm of meaning--is always implicated, and cultic activity is often involved.

That's why I'm not arguing against cults per se.  Heck, I'm a self-confessed Buffy cultist, so who am I to throw stones?

The point is not to suppress cultic activity, but merely to mediate it, so that it doesn't do damage to our culture at large.  Easier said than done, of course.  But a much more sensible goal, I believe, than either doing nothing, or trying to suppress something that's clearly a deeply-rooted part of human nature.


"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Using "Cult" too Broadly? (0.00 / 0)
Paul, I can see how you can use the term "cult" in the way you are here, to the extent I follow you.  But I worry that you are using this term to capture a wider range of things that I would generally acknowledge.  And I think that may be a little problematic.  Because "cult" in current verbiage means something much more authoritarian--in multiple senses--than you mean here.  I would be inclined to sharpen your analysis and use "cult" for something more narrow.  I also worry that your logos/mythos distinction is too broad, as I pointed out in the last thread.

I'm interested in your analysis, here, and I know you are trying stuff out.  But my sense is that you would be well served by narrowing your definitions a bit.  By bringing the counterculture together with the right wing machine, I feel like you are obscuring some key distinctions. Of course, any set of distinctions obscures something.  But my gut sense is that you are not serving your larger argument by encompassing so much in "cult."  

Interestingly, I have been reading The fictions of the Past: the Sixties in American History for a chapter on the free schools movement as an example of "personalist" progressivism.  The vision of the counter-culture--which I'll bet you know better than I--was intensely individualist--part of the reason why nearly all of their communes failed.  Certainly both the right wing and the counter culture fed on myths.  But to what extent is it useful to call them both "cults."  And what potential misunderstandings do you potentially feed when you do this?

--Aaron Schutz (Core Dilemmas of Community Organizing)


It's Not "My" Definition, Though (0.00 / 0)
I get what you're saying, but I'm really basically just following Armstrong here--very straightforwardly with respect to logos and mythos, and by extension with respect to cults based on the passage I quoted.

Part of the problem, I think, is that different folks use the term in different ways, and I'm trying to simply follow through from the implications of that passage, which allows for a great deal of variation.  We have cult movies, for examples.  Is that a poor extension of the term?  Well, I don't think so, with the example of the Rocky Horror Picture Show as the prime exemplar.  But there's nothing the least bit authoritarian about that.

What I'm trying to do here is to focus in on the meaning-making aspect, because that's what mythos is about.  And that's something that applies to everyone across the political spectrum.

My main point in putting them together here was that I had a sense of a deeper way in which projection--or rather, actually projective identification--has been shaping the rightwing demonization of the 60s.  Obviously, I didn't do a good enough job of communicating that.

So, you're right, in that this is exploratory, and really pretty spur-of-the-moment, and there should be ways to address your concerns without sacrificing my desire for fidelity to the distinctions Armstrong was drawing.  Some qualifying terms and some clarifying passages.  I'll have to chew on it awhile.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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