What Would Obama Do?

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Dec 09, 2008 at 09:30


Michael Tomasky writing in the Guardian about how anyone who thought Gates was a bad pick are complete idiots:

And people who can't see that Obama needs to reassure the political establishment by doing things like re-appointing Robert Gates at the Pentagon precisely so he can have the establishment's good will, which in turn grants him the room to operate and to isolate the political opposition, understand so little about politics that it's not even worth the time it would take to spell out the argument to them.

What Tomasky apparently does not realize is that those stupid people who demonstrated total political ignorance by opposing Gates for re-appointment included many of Obama's own advisors:

The speculation over Gates' tenure has been most intense inside the Obama transition team. The team received a request from Gates that, were he to stay, he would want to retain some of his top civilian assistants. The request led to concerns among the Obama transition staff: "Gates is not a neo-con or even a hardcore Republican," a person close to the process noted, "but the people around him sure as hell are." A former Bill Clinton administration official who has been deployed by Obama to conduct a series of "meet and greets" with top officials at the Pentagon scoffed at the notion of a continuation of Gates' tenure: "The [presidential] election was a clean sweep," he says, "and that includes Bob Gates. It's called a change in government."

There was a vigorous debate inside Obama's transition team over whether to re-appoint Gates as Secretary of Defense. This debate was reflected in that Gates was leaked as the pick long after several other leaks--including other senior national security advisor picks like Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano--had all been leaked. It was far from a universally held opinion that Gates should be re-appointed. So, if people who don't understand that Gates had to be re-appointed are political idiots, then apparently there are a lot of political idiots inside Obama's transition team.

Perhaps, as I discuss in the extended entry, before sending off screeds like these, we need to ask ourselves: what would Obama do?

Chris Bowers :: What Would Obama Do?

This is an important thing to remember when discussing the Obama administration: there is always going to be dissent within the administration itself. Further, this is dissent that Obama himself has openly encouraged, "welcoming vigorous debate within the White House. It doesn't strike me that Obama thinks anyone who disagrees with his picks are idiots who "understand so little about politics that it's not even worth the time it would take to spell out the argument to them."

Debate is good. Debate is healthy. Accusing those who have a different analysis than you of acting in bad faith for personal gain is anything but healthy:

The cable shows have hours to fill, and bloggers know that if they complain they might well be asked to help fill them.

Yeah, that's productive. I remember thinking, the day before Thanksgiving, as I was packing to hop on the bus to New York, "man, why hasn't my criticism of Obama landed me more sweet television gigs?" Fortunately, my hard work finally paid off, and Hardball sent me an email later that morning.

Debate is good. Debate is healthy. It is happening within Obama's own team. Saying that those who disagree with you are idiots acting in bad faith for personal gain is not good. Hell, it isn't even Obama-like. At best, it can set off yet another unproductive, vague argument ala the one with Hildebrand yesterday.

Instead, maybe we need to start asking ourselves "what would Obama do?" I think, if we took Obama at his words, we should be encouraging "vigorous debate" ourselves. We should be treating each other with respect. Whatever we think of Obama's transition so far, or thought of his campaign, the basic rhetoric isn't bad. Inclusive, vigorous, informed, respectful debate is a good thing. Let's try to keep that in mind.


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Sorry, but.... (0.00 / 0)
Asking what Obama would do, even metaphorically, strikes me as too obsequious by half. I'd be the first to acknowledge that he's largely the reason why the left wing of the Democratic is suddenly being listened to by any but the usual suspects -- that, and the self-immolation of the Republicans along with their glib political (Rove) and economic (Laffer) theories -- but I don't therefore feel obliged to keep my mouth shut, or to treat our critics with any more respect than they accord to us.

Yes, Obama needed to keep the hyenas off his back long enough to find out what's what and where they've hidden it; everyone remembers the gays-in-the-military minefield that Clinton strode into with that silly grin on his face. Still, in my opinion Gates can't be controlled any more than Uriah Heep. He'll still be wanting what he wants, and when he doesn't get it, I doubt he'll content himself with sulking. He knows people, and he'll call them in, and when they arrive, they won't be offering any sunny testimonials to Obama's bipartisanship. In the end, Obama will have to dump him.

Why not now, before he develops a MacArthur-like cult of followers to threaten us with a riot in Congress?



He does seem to be a bit too cocky (0.00 / 0)
He does seem to be a bit too cocky when I have heard him talking about whats going to happen in Iraq.

Still, currently Obama has an approval rating of 80% and he ran on getting out of Iraq.  Whatever he is doing to get that it is exactly what he needs.

My guess is that Obama doesn't think he has enough political capital to enact both his domestic policy and foreign policy an the same time and that he wants to take the opportunity to hit the ground running on domestic policy and give bis best realistic shot at foriegn policy at the same time.

For that he needs an independent figure like gates heading things.  If he doesn't get that it hurts him, but I see this as prioritizing domesic policy over foriegn, but still gambling that he can do both.

If gates can just retool some of the military the way he said he wanted in that article he recently wrote I think it will be worth the risk.  That is one thing that would go much easier with 80% approval ratings and bipartisan support.

http://transgendermom.blogspot....


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Or... (0.00 / 0)
...he happens to admire the Bush 41 realist strain. And what do you know, some guy named Barack Obama seems to think that's probably about it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

It's easy not to get surprised by these things if you pay attention in the first place.  


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Good sentiment. (4.00 / 1)
Everyone needs to take a second and realize that criticism from the left is necessary to push the government to the left. Criticism from the left gives Obama space to operate to the left. If we were just cheery and gleeful over everything he did then we could never push him towards more progressive policies.

Obama himself, has never told us to shut up and get in line, so I don't know why so many in the blogosphere think that is exactly what we must do. That is exactly what the right wing did wrong for 8 years. They adored Bush and every move he made, except for the Harriet Miers debacle. In the end, when Bush became unpopular it was impossible for the Republicans and the right to disconnect themselves from someone they almost universally supported on every major issue.

We can't do that to ourselves. I think Obama will me a good president, but he'll need pushes from Congress and the public to be a progressive president. In 2016 I want real progressives running for the nomination, and we won't get that by cheering for every centrist move he makes.  

The truth about John McCain.


Tomasky gets it. (4.00 / 1)
Appointments for advisers serve a dual role of getting effective and competent advisers and administrators and representing the viewpoints of large sections of the populace especially the coalition that elected the President. That is precisely why the slap at the left by excluding them is so significant and meaningful; it also puts the lie to the fairytale that "Obama is choosing only the best person for each position". Only the three-year olds amongst us buy that Obama/Hildebrand bull.  

Here is the deal. I am a constituent now. (4.00 / 1)
I have been politically involved my entire life, but only in the past 8 years have I considered myself an "activist".  Like many Democrats post-"Bush v. Gore," post-9/11, post-Iraq, and post-Katrina, I realized that simply sitting back and waiting to vote every 2-4 years wasn't going to get the job done.  

I considered myself an activist in the sense that I had a mission to not only get rid of Republicans, but also to fix the Democratic Party.  Both by expanding its reach to include lost geographical and ideological voters, but also to improve the quality of the Democrats that were being elected.

I now consider that mission, if not accomplished, then sufficiently on course to allow myself to think more directly about the policies that I want.

I am a constituent now.  Hear me roar.

And people who can't see that Obama needs to reassure the political establishment by doing things like re-appointing Robert Gates at the Pentagon precisely so he can have the establishment's good will, which in turn grants him the room to operate and to isolate the political opposition, understand so little about politics that it's not even worth the time it would take to spell out the argument to them.

I understand that thinking.  I get it.  What Tomasky doesn't understand is that we are constituents too.  We need to be placated.  We need to to be reassured.  

Obama can't please all people in all constituencies all the time.  Sometimes he will throw a bone to the "political establishment" and ask me to understand.  And sometimes he better throw me a bone and ask the "political establishment" to understand.  Juggling competing interests is what politicians do -- at least that's what good ones do.  One wonders how much Tomasky understands about politics if he doesn't get that.

No longer will I will keep quiet in order to give a politician the cover to oppose what I want.  Sorry.  Not going to happen


Honestly, (0.00 / 0)
whenever I read rationalizations like Tomasky's for Obama's decisions, I can't help but think of these lines from Alexander Pope:

All Nature is but Art unknown to thee;
All chance direction, which thou canst not see;
All discord, harmony not understood;
All partial evil, universal good:
And spite of Pride, in erring Reason's spite,
One truth is clear, Whatever is, is right.

Simply replace God with Obama as the All Knowing, All Good Being.  


Really, (0.00 / 0)
the arguments by Obama apologists whenever he makes questionable decisions resemble nothing more than standard and strained attempts at theodicy.

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What I find amusing (4.00 / 1)
about Tonasky's piece--and all those in this genre--is that they always include a disclaimer saying that dissent is good, and that left needs to pressure Obama.

[Just not now. Just not yet. Just not about this]

Silly.


Speaking for myself (0.00 / 0)
I highly respect your opinion, Chris, even if I occasionally disagree and voice that opinion here. If I was totally opposed to disagreement with my person views, I wouldn't be reading this blog or posting here.

The Open Left team often voices the best progressive criticism of Obama on the web. There are similar voices elsewhere, but are often drowned out by reflexive pro-Obama defenses. Some people are still in campaign mode, it seems, or so happy by the election outcome that they think Obama can do no wrong, or in some cases were so impressed by Obama's campaign that they've decided to trust his decisions.

Oh, and there is no shame in going on Hardball or other TV shows. I'd much rather see a real progressive there than the typical idiotic insider "Democratic consultants" we usually see. Just remain intellectually honest and you'll be fine.


Debate, good. Calling others idiots, bad. (4.00 / 1)
I agree, Tomasky crossed the line here from healthy debate to just plain sloppy, over generalized, lazy attacks on straw men. You are right to call him on it.

I don't like when either side resorts to this kind of argument, or assumes that they have some special insight that allows them to definitively interpret Obama's intent one way or another based on appointments. I especially abhor when commenters attack others for having an interpretive opinion different from their own divinations.


"Debate is good. Debate is healthy." (4.00 / 1)
"No, it isn't."
-John Cleese

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