Obama's Version of a "Green New Deal" Emerging

by: tremayne

Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 10:53


Next week Barack Obama will nominate key members of his energy and environmental team and among the likely choices are some to be happy about including Nobel-prize winning physicist Steven Chu.

On Tuesday Obama met with Al Gore and, sandwiched between comments on the Blagojevich case, succinctly outlined most of the big plan I summarized a few days ago:

(transcript below)

I think it is clear from these comments that Obama is not aiming for incremental change. To achieve the kind of change Gore talks about, a switch to clean power in ten years, will require not only implementation of technologies we currently have but new breakthroughs. That's what makes Chu's appointment so encouraging: he leads the lab that has been working on the breakthroughs.

Still, there are skeptics who say the cost and the time necessary for a conversion to cleaner power make this undoable during a severe recession. More on that below.

tremayne :: Obama's Version of a "Green New Deal" Emerging

Here is the transcript of Obama's comments during an appearance with Joe Biden and Al Gore:

All three of us are in aggreement that the time for delay is over. The time for denial is over. We all believe what the scientists have been telling us for years now, that this is a matter of urgency and national security, and it has to be dealt with in a serious way. That is what I intend my administration to do.

What's exciting about that conversation [with Gore] is that it is not only a problem, it is also an opportunity. As I've already spoken about as we've started to provide a framework for our economic recovery plan, we have the opportunity now to create jobs all across this country in all 50 states to repower America, to redesign how we use energy and think about how we are increasing efficiency to make our economy stronger, make us more safe, reduce our dependence on foreign oil and make us competitive for decades to come -- even as we save the planet.

And so we are not going to miss this opportunity. My office is going to be working with a whole host of stakeholders on this issue, including Vice President Gore, businesses, Republicans, Democrats, consumers, everybody who has a stake in this issue and we all do, I want to bring together. The kind of a progressive bold approach that is that is going to make the future better for my children and all our children.

But can this be done? Here's a pessimistic take which argues that the type of R & D necessary to create the technology for this may be hard to come by when companies are struggling to survive.

Still, the arguments in favor seem to be winning so far. Here's some great material on the emerging "Green New Deal":

United Nations Environment Programme

New Economics Foundation

Newsweek 1

Newsweek 2

The Nation

The Economist (a very skeptical take)

Jon Taplan

triplepundit

IHT

Boston Globe

Spiegel

Plenty

Gristmill

Incidentally, the term "green new deal" began, as best I can tell, in the UK last summer. If you search Google news you'll find over 150 stories with the term from the last month but almost nothing before that. There's certainly worldwide momentum here which is rather astonishing considering where we were on this issue just 2 years ago.


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I like it. (4.00 / 2)
The Green New Deal.

Change is in the air (and water)!! :-)


Recession/good times (4.00 / 3)
can't do things in a recession because they cost too much and won't do them in good times because well, it's good times so who needs it now. Same with health care. Too expensive but war in Iraq at 10 billion a month, that's ok.

Neocon "skeptics" (0.00 / 0)
there are skeptics who say the cost and the time necessary for a conversion to cleaner power make this undoable during a severe recession.

And most of these same "skeptics" would find no problem at all starting yet another useless war or doubling the military budget during a severe recession. The Bushie neocons must be pissing themselves with disappointment to see that Obama doesn't feel handcuffed by their criminal strategy to prevent change by breaking the bank.


The US is a military/industrial/congressional complex (0.00 / 0)
not a scientific/industrial/congressional complex.

I'm encouraged by Mr. O's green plans, but until we can wean our economy from the military, fighting wars, developing more deadly weapons, and selling arms will remain our bread and butter.

Funneling money into the national labs is a good idea, but what about the rest of the scientific community? Will the NSF and NIH get a "bail-out", too, or is that only for corporations?

PS: I don't mean to imply that the national labs are a corporation.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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efficiency measures (4.00 / 2)
are quick, cost-effective, and reduce demand for baseload power. I want to see huge incentives for putting those in.

There was a Daily Kos diary saying Chu has been an advocate for expanded nuclear power:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

I'm guessing most of the people who say investing in solar and wind would be too expensive have no problem throwing tons of public money at building more nuclear power plants. Unfortunately.

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The Green New Deal... (4.00 / 1)
may not end up going as far as many of us would like, but it will, nevertheless be like nothing we've seen before from the Federal Government.

Even just greening all public buildings and vehicles, as Obama has said he'd do, is very impressive. Obama will be the greenest President we've had yet. No doubt.


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