Ideologues Not To Blame For Auto Bailout Failure, Part 3

by: Chris Bowers

Sat Dec 13, 2008 at 23:00


In what is now my third installment on this subject, (see the first and second), I would like to continue to challenge the intellectually deficient notion that the bridge loan to the American auto manufacturers was defeated by those who were "ideological," and supported by those who were not "ideological." My ongoing contention is that everyone has a system of values, also known as an ideology. As such, the Senators who voted against the auto bridge loan simply attach higher value to things like destroying unions and punishing blue states more than they do to the economic well-being of the three million workers employed by the auto manufacturers. Thus, differences on the auto bailout arise from a differences between ideologies, not on the chic, but just flat-out wrong idea, that it is was caused by differences between those who have an ideology and those who do not.

We need to get used to the idea that when politicians vote in ways we do not like, it is not necessarily due to a lack of political courage in regards to the pressure they will feel for the vote, or because they are unaware of the potential consequences of their vote. Instead, it is often because they simply have different values, aka a different ideological outlook, from us. While it is attractive to believe either that "ideology" is simply an unwillingness to look at the facts, or that we all have the same values and disagree with one another only because of some form power-seeking politics, neither is the case. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise is offering you a deluded interpretation of how to deal with disagreement in our political system.

How this relates to the specific case of the bridge loan to the Big Three in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Ideologues Not To Blame For Auto Bailout Failure, Part 3
Eighteen of the Senators who opposed the $14 billion bridge loan to the auto manufacturers supported the $700 billion TARP program for the financial sector. These are clearly not Senators who are opposed, as a general ideological principle, to large governmental loans to corporations. They are just opposed to this, smaller loan to the auto manufacturers. Thus, it was the nature of this loan, specifically the lack of concessions on the part of the UAW, which they opposed: They didn't oppose bailouts--they opposed this bailout because it didn't do enough damage to unions:

As General Motors announced the temporary closure of 20 plants Friday, Republicans who fought a White House-backed bailout plan want Americans to blame the United Auto Workers and think about Rod Blagojevich.

The GOP strategy, previewed in an "action alert" sent by a Republican lobbyist and outlined by Republican aides, is based on the idea that the best defense is a good offense -- and the hope that the taint of the Illinois governor will rub off on organized labor.

"This is the Democrats' first opportunity to pay off organized labor after the election . . . a precursor to card check and other items," said the memo. "Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor, instead of taking their first blow from it."

The emphasized portion is about as clear a statement that Republicans simply valued destroying the UAW more than they valued the economic well-being of Big Three employees. This wasn't about ideologues not recognizing the consequences of their actions, as they knew perfectly well what they were doing. This was about a clash of values. The defeat of organized labor was expressly more important to these Republican Senators than the economic well-being of the three million employees of American auto manufactures. That is why eighteen Republican Senators who voted in favor of a $700 billion bridge loan to Wall Street opposed a $14 billion bridge loan to Detroit. On Wall Street, there aren't as many unions to destroy, but there is a financial sector that these Republicans value quite a bit.

Now, I grant that the thirteen Republicans who voted against both bailouts, plus Democrat Jon Tester who also voted against both bailouts, may simply be making a principled stand in opposition to these bridge loans. I will leave it for others to decide whether or not those fourteen should be considered "ideologues." Also, perhaps it was wrong for me to assign a singular motive to all thirty-five people who voted against the bridge loan. However, the bridge loan could not have been defeated without the support of the eighteen Senators who valued bailing out Wall Street, but who considered breaking the UAW to be more important than bailing out Detroit. In other words, the bridge loan was defeated primarily by Republicans who are not opposed to bridge loans in general, but who opposed this particular bridge loan because they value defeating unions more than they valued the recipient of the loans.

Those eighteen Senators are not refusing to look at the details of each individual bridge loan before making their decision. They simply have different values than most of the people who supported the bridge loan. Then again, given that there was a clear correlation between Republican support for the bridge loan and the distance of any given Republican's seat from Michigan, there were also probably people who supported the bridge loan even though they didn't really care about the workers involved.

I know this may seem like an incredibly basic point to many, but political disagreements often happen because people have different values, not just because certain people are unaware of certain facts, or because of unseemly attempts to accrue more personal power. The auto industry bridge loan is no different. There are up to eighteen Republican Senators who are not ideologues, but who value breaking unions more than they value saving millions of jobs. We need to be willing to publicly express this disagreement over values, and not just because it hurts my brain to hear and read so many people implying that ideology itself is somehow a political problem. Rather, we need to be willing to express this disagreement of values because our values are more popular. Let's start naming values, both ours and theirs, and stop blaming our political disagreements on ideology itself.


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reductio ad absurdum (4.00 / 1)
So I'll go find my dictionary and cross out ideologue. If we're all ideologues then nobody is. The word has no further utility.

OTOH, if we were able to paint the extremist rightwingers who voted to destroy the auto industry in the US with the shorthand ideologues, with its connotation of head-in-the-sand break-some-eggs extremism, well, we gain. As I said last night, our ideologues aren't in power. Since 1981, theirs have been.


"Ideologue" is in every headline on Open Left! (0.00 / 0)
Enough already!

If you say "peanut butter" over and over and over really really fast, it starts to sound like "pitty-pat"

If you say "ideologue" over and over and over, it starts to sound like "ittle ittle ittle."

So let's take an ittle break from "ideologue" and eat some peanut butter while we play pitty-pat.

That's what it means to be a pragmatic progressive!


[ Parent ]
A great idea, (4.00 / 1)
but a number of important progressive voices are putting a lot of effort into unilaterally disarming. It's SOOOOOOOOO easy to tar Shelby, DeWineDeMint (sorry, wrong condiment :>) and friends as ideologues, it eludes me why the effort to preclude doing so gets such traction here.

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Another name? (0.00 / 0)
Instead of "ideologue," maybe we should look for something more descriptive, like...

"Richard Shelby is a mama-humping right-wing radical."


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n/t (4.00 / 2)
"My ongoing contention is that everyone has a system of values, also known as an ideology."

This is quite right.  In my bubble in which your contention is universally accepted, I frequently forget that this isn't a common position.  This blog is like my pacifier, it discusses politics in detail from a perspective I find theoretically viable, and works to implode stupid oppositions like ideologue/pragmatist, but without using terms like "interpellate" that would confirm I'm still in my bubble.  I suppose this sounds like a massive insult, but who would insult their pacifier?  

"If we're all ideologues then nobody is. The word has no further utility."

The term has utility insofar as we recognize that it describes all of us, and we aren't stupid enough to think we operate in a neutral space without basic and highly consequential assumptions about what constitutes political life and the function of government. Obviously, the people commonly referred to as "pragmatists" believe (theoretically) in deriving principles from situations rather than applying principles to situations.  But their interpretations, the range of principles they might derive, are already thoroughly dominated by their preceding base ideology.  I personally don't see much difference between these notions of pragmatism and ideology, the terms just function for political leverage.  

That doesn't mean ideology itself is inconsequential, OTOH, it's supremely consequential, there's just no space outside of it.  I vote my view of ideological superiority.  

I am stating the obvious (I think, hard to tell from my provincial ideological perspective).  But rhetoric really does matter and I daresay it takes a certain amount of honesty to consciously avoid using it as a bludgeon, even though Chris clearly refrains from that use at the moment because he gets called an ideologue far from frequently than most Republicans and has more to gain in the long run by denaturing the term.  


[ Parent ]
We need a name for those eighteen Senators. (0.00 / 0)
I am quite sure that several here have some very good suggestions that can't be printed in the local paper.  We need something that the media can grab hold of and run with.  Everyone needs to know who they are so that in the event that the auto's do fail and we nosedive into a depression, we have a nice little name for the rat bastards.  

What I really can't understand is, doesn't the failure of the big 3 jeopardize the 300 billion we have already given to the banks?  Won't the banks suffer even more losses if 3 million people are out of jobs?  Won't it take much longer for the government to recieve all the returns on the bank investments?  Then again maybe the banks will give all that money back since there won't be anyone to loan it to anyway.    


I kind of like rat bastards myself. (0.00 / 0)
Those Senators, including Tester, put their own "values" ahead of the country's best interest.  Since they are elected to represent the best interest of "the people" and not to dictate their personal values, putting themselves ahead of duty and responsibility makes them ideologues.   If not ideologues, then arrogant, self-serving, rat bastards is my next  first  choice will do.


They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich  

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Furthermore (0.00 / 0)
I would like to continue to challenge the intellectually deficient notion that the bridge loan to the American auto manufacturers was defeated by those who were "ideological," and supported by those who were not "ideological."
The particular strawman you cite hasn't posted here, that I've seen. ideologue has connotations beyond "one who is ideological". I'm ideological - call me a Socialist and you won't get an argument (though perhaps an attempt at a reasoned discussion of what it means to be a Socialist in 21st Century USA).

Words are tools. We use them to communicate our feelings, ideas, wants, opinions... The word ideologue has connotations that to the vast majority of non-ideological Americans (and I believe it was you Chris Bowers who posted a diary Friday about how non-ideological most American voters are) has a feeling of extremism. Extremist rightwing ideologues voted to kill the UAW, consequences be damned. They won (unless "Hoover moment" Cheney convinces Bush to use TARP funds). If Bush doesn't come through, they deserve the blame.


Ideology may be the wrong word, but it needs a word (4.00 / 3)
When the Bolsheviks or the French Revolutionaries became so dedicated to their ideas that they started murdering thousands, there was something qualitatively different about their "ideology" than that of those who advocate some sort of mainstream utilitarianism.  "Ideological" might be the wrong word for it, but it captures that sense that people sometimes get -- on both sides of the spectrum -- when they see someone acting way beyond what is reasonable or common-sensible based on what seems to be an adherence to an abstract idea that is highly divorced from common perceptions and sympathies.  And I do think there is something qualitatively different, about, say, a decision to send thousands of young men and women to die in a war for an abstract idea; or to sentence a criminal to death because that is just; or to oppose helping the poor because it leads to market inefficiencies; or (to choose a view from the opposite side) to advocate the killing of thousands of unborn babies because you are sure they aren't human.  It's that sense that someone's ideas have lead them far away from their basic sympathies and empathy, far from the common-sense desire of trying to help out those in need around you, that leads people to call an opposing position not just wrong, but "ideological."  

Again, that may be the wrong word for it, but when people see these guys preferring an abstract (or so it appears) allegiance to a theory that capitalism works best without unions, and ignoring the obvious plights of millions of workers, that allegiance seems qualitatively different from the basic human sympathetic desire to help all those workers out.  Someone who is rich and just works to stay that way by grinding down the working man wouldn't really be called ideological by these lights; it's only by presenting their positions as anti-union out of some principled objection that makes it seem ideological, and leads people to call it that to distinguish it from either basic selfishness, or basic sympathy.  Now, I personally believe that such anti-union claims are just cover for a basic desire to stomp on the poor and preserve their superior class positions -- and I think that, insofar as others share that view, then they wouldn't call that ideological, even though it comes out of a set of values directly opposed to ours.  It is only inasmuch as people see these behaviors as originating in some abstract idea -- an idea much more abstract that a basic sympathetic desire to help out the workers -- that that behavior is called "ideological."  

And again: we may think the word is misleading, but it is worth preserving the core idea: that sometimes people differ in their basic values, or their sympathies, or just in what side they selfishly support, but as opposed to all of that, there is this weird thing when people start behaving almost inexplicably due to a strong belief in an abstract idea, unmoored from basic human sympathies.  Perhaps the cynics out there (and I am one of them) think that almost every time someone does something horrible in the name of an abstract idea, that idea is just cover for baser motives; but it's certainly the case that the last 200 years have been marked by a vast array of inexplicably unsympathetic if not downright terrible acts committed in the name of some set of abstract ideas.  And I think that liberalism -- good old-fashioned JS Mill liberalism -- in a way shares in common with the mainstream it so often deplores, an adherence to basic human sympathies against overly abstracted ideas, and that that anti-ideological sensibility is what has kept liberalism sane through the last century of horrors.


n/t (0.00 / 0)
" And I do think there is something qualitatively different, about, say, a decision to send thousands of young men and women to die in a war for an abstract idea; or to sentence a criminal to death because that is just; or to oppose helping the poor because it leads to market inefficiencies; or (to choose a view from the opposite side) to advocate the killing of thousands of unborn babies because you are sure they aren't human.  It's that sense that someone's ideas have lead them far away from their basic sympathies and empathy, far from the common-sense desire of trying to help out those in need around you, that leads people to call an opposing position not just wrong, but "ideological." "  

your sense of basic sympathy and empathy simply represent the ideological mainstream of liberal democracy, or liberal humanism or whatever you prefer.  the "common-sense desire of trying to help out those in need around you" is what our libertarian friends call collectivism.  in your sense of the term ideology, if i am understanding you, there are certain issues or questions that are necessarily ideological (abortion, the death penalty) and others that are policy based, which means they are questions of efficiency because the two sides share an ideological basis.  

the value that we place on human life at this moment in history, which has never been higher, is part of the ideological development of the enlightenment.  what you call basic sympathies we've been working a few hundred years to develop, they weren't available in the specific sense that we enjoy them to robespierre.  that doesn't mean that we can't judge him, we just can't create some measure of ideological equivalence across space and time.  i think that i probably have the same zone of negotiation in terms of principle that you do - what views in your terms i would consider ideological or non-ideological.  i just don't think my position has recourse to any absolute principle beyond my own historically and culturally developed sensibilities.  


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"Sympathy" as ideology (0.00 / 0)
The "sense" was talking about is not especially my own, merely commonplace.  It may not be true that it existed centuries ago, but I think a lot of people feel that way.  

As for my own opinion, I don't believe that common human sympathy is an ideology, nor that it is a new creation.  It is clearly present in 18th century novels, in Shakespeare, Chaucer, medieval passion plays, Dante, the greek plays, Homer, the Old Testament, Gilgamesh, etc.  Perhaps the enlightenment gets some credit for reaffirming these common-place values, but basic sympathy for human life has been almost universal since the get-go, albeit little on display by those in power for most of human history.  The logical ramifications of basic human sympathy may comprise the ideology of liberalism, insofar is that thing exists, but the basic thing -- the thing that, in particular, is in play with the desire to help out millions of displaced workers -- is not really ideological.  I think history, psychology, and for that matter, nascent work in human genetics/evolutionary biology, bear that out.

But again, my argument doesn't turn on this being true.  It was primarily an effort to understand and articulate why some people would want to call one side the auto argument ideological, and the other not.


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Wow. (0.00 / 0)
I just read 724 words to glean what could have been said in a sentence:

"Republicans and the UAW are political opponents."

I fail to see how demonizing the ideology of the opposition illuminates the merits of the bailout.  Maybe the reason that the Republicans oppose the bill is that someone has bribed them with underage prostitutes or invitations to Klan meetings.  What does that have to do with the merits of the bailout?  Perhaps there are reasons other than these alleged ideological points to either support or reject this bill, and just explaining how evil Republican ideology is doesn't help me understand why the bill should pass.  

And why do people keep comparing the financial industry bailout with the auto bailout?  I was against the first, and basically for the second.  Does that make me a hypocrite, or anyone who takes the inverse view a hypocrite?  The two situations are dramatically different.

I could understand all this plumbing of the Republican psyche if the result was something a little more nuanced than "they're a bunch of law-despising, union-busting, autocratic, Nazi-wannabe bastards."  


Opposing the first bailout (0.00 / 0)
and supporting the second makes far more sense to me that supporting the financial bailout and opposing support for car makers.

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yes but (0.00 / 0)
The Bush administration has behaved like their primary ambition was to privatize as much money as they could into the hands of their friends. Their secondary goals were apparently to degrade every function of government, imprison as many blacks as possible, take jobs away from Americans, enrich China, India, Israel and Saudi Arabia, prepare the citizens for martial law, and commit about 10% of the GDP to interest payments. Rich Republicans are now equipped to survive in beauty, power and comfort the chaos they have left for the rest of us.

This set of ideas, call it "All for Us", accounts for their overall behavior better than the fundamentalism, small town values and free market capitalism that lesser Republicans keep talking about, or that they need as a front to win elections. But can you really deduce ideology from action? Does a hidden agenda qualify as an ideology? Or do you accept their stated ideology, which makes them seem incompetent and divorced from reality?
 


This about who holds power (4.00 / 3)
and that is all that it is about. In many ways it is the most important political fight since the civil rights movement.    

This debate is about whether workers should have power expressed through labor unions, or whether they should be completely subservient to management.  Here is the proof:

During the debate over the $700 Billion bailout (and the total Government money in the financial institutions is at this point is well over $5 Trillion)  DID ANYONE SUGGEST THAT THE WORKERS AT THE BANKS MADE TOO MUCH MONEY?  Were there any demands made that rank and file workers should make less money?

This isn't about Government intervention.  As Fred Barnes makes clear (and that is the first I have ever cited him) the same southerners who voted against the bailout have been throwing local tax money at foreign auto makers like it is going out of style.  

How that isn't ideological is beyond me. It is in fact one of the clearest ideological fights I have ever seen.    


Proof? (0.00 / 0)
What would you imagine is the relative percentage of labor costs to total revenue in banking?  

If, as I would suspect, the labor cost in the financial services industry were not a contributor to the crisis, there was no reason to discuss labor costs as a concession in an emergency bailout.

The automakers, in contrast, are competing with nonunion labor, and have pension expenses, so labor costs affects their competitiveness, and addressing labor costs is to be expected.

Hence, I'm not sure what you've proved.


[ Parent ]
so at the end of the day (0.00 / 0)
We have a three part series that started with disagreeing with this statement:

So, it's possible that the GOP Senators like Corker and McConnell are stupid, and just don't understand some of the basics of the global auto industry.  But we shouldn't dismiss the possibility that the ultras who've taken over the GOP, the people for whom ideology is more important than consequences and reality, would rather risk destroying one of our most important industries in an attempt to destroy a labor union.

Apparently with the conclusion:

The emphasized portion is about as clear a statement that Republicans simply valued destroying the UAW more than they valued the economic well-being of Big Three employees.

which seems to agree with the original statement except we now have the evidence of a leaked memo.

This seems to be a pretty good indication that a definition of ideologue that says everyone is a ideologue is useless, since the three part series got us where we were before.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.


McConnell (0.00 / 0)
The venality of McConnell is incredible.  In Kentucky, the auto industry provides 87,000 jobs: 9,000 at Ford, 8,000 at Toyota and 70,000 at parts suppliers.  Auto bankruptcy means that the parts suppliers lose at least the amount of payments outstanding from auto makers and that is a minimum of 45 days worth of sales.  Drop that and many of them go under with their employees and their creditors in an ever widening web.

What absolutely nobody is saying is that GM welched on an estimated $50 billion in pension obligations last year IIRC.  That's probably about 8 to 10 times what the loan amounts for GM are supposed to be.  UAW head Gettelfinger obviously knows the facts but also is neither a compelling and charismatic speaker nor someone who is able to put the facts into a neat 30 second sound bite.  Shame, isn't it.


[ Parent ]
Whatever Your Ideology, (0.00 / 0)
it is simply the worst possible time to have a massive auto bankruptcy; the blow to confidence could well propel us into a downturn we might not get out of.  I don't have any problem with the auto companies going out of business, but just not now.

Risk and reward (0.00 / 0)
The southern gopers actually have a high chance at getting rewarded in the event of a big three auto failure.

Lets say that GM and Chrysler fail.  Most likely their assets would be bought up and they would produce cars, but lots of the legacy and unproductive plants would not.  So lets say they only produce about 60% of this years capacity.  That would probably be sufficient in a downturn.

However when things come back new plants would be much more likely to be built in the south.  

They aren't killing the deal because they are ideologues or anti union.  They are doing so because it is in their states best interests.  

The anti-union just provides a convenient ideological excuse.

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ideologues, ideology, values and who knows what else (4.00 / 1)
Jumping on the ideologue train for he second (and probably last) time in this thread:

Some relations among terms that we can, perhaps, agree on:

1) An ideologue is a person who has a strict ideology.
2) An ideology is a set of values.
3) Values are beliefs that form the basis of emotional decisions.
4) Emotional decisions are at the root of all reason and rational choices.

(I know that many will not agree with what I just said, but what the hell. It's just your emotions talking.)

I would suggest, Chris, that the term ideologue is not a useful term. It is a name that ideologues call each other when they want to disparage those on the opposing side. That has happened to you recently, yes?

I would also suggest that there is a big difference between giving $700 billion dollars to Wall Street and $15 billion to automakers (apart from the obvious $685 billion dollars). The difference between a) the values expressed by those who voted for the Wall Street bailout and b) the values expressed by those who voted for the Wall Street bailout but now oppose the Auto Bailout is contained in a simple question, a question posed (and answered) by the Auto Bailout's dissenting Senators: In a capitalist democracy where where every individual has the right to make his or her own choices, where can you find a lot of volunteer slaves?

BTW, we have a GM plant in Shreveport, Louisiana and there is going to be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth in our little corner of the woods if and when that plant closes.


rationality (0.00 / 0)
One thing that is frequently overlooked is that people make decisions that are not based upon rationality.

Their desire for a certain outcome (possible or not) is so strong that they deceive themselves. They ignore evidence that weakens their beliefs and emphasize (or make up) evidence that supports it.

These people can range from totally paranoid, like Stalin, to mildly so, like Nixon, to just plain sociopaths, like Cheney.

More rational people try to fit the irrational behavior into a framework of how they themselves look at things. So these people's actions must be grounded in "values" or beliefs or a worldview or similar.

A member of the KKK may have a worldview and it may even be internally consistent, but it is based upon faulty premises having to do with innate differences in humans.

Those trying to bring down organized labor are acting irrationally. Their hatred overwhelms any considerations of the real pros and cons of the issue.

The lesson to be learned from this is that it is pointless to try to argue with these people on the basis of the merits of their claims. The only effective political tactic is to marginalize them as much as possible.

The Dems make a mistake about this by promoting "bi-partisanship" when they are in power. Instead they should be actively working to eliminate these people from the political process through aggressive political action. You can be sure that the UAW and other industrialized unions will make it a top priority to get these people out of office. Bi-partisanship assumes that the other side wants to come to some sort of compromise. These people don't and the sooner this is realized the quicker the appropriate tactics can be adopted.

There are many things that the Dems can do to marginalize sitting senators. They all don't have to be as brutal as the games played by DeLay and Gingrich. For example, the pork passed in their districts can be eliminated as can the defense contracts which are mostly aimed at feathering a local pols nest rather than serving any useful purpose.

Similarly running negative ads whenever a pol votes against the majority can keep them on the defensive and make it necessary for them to spend money campaigning far from the actual election. This effort may wear them down and make them reconsider running again, especially if they have trouble raising money for a continuous campaign.

Just pretend you are analyzing the actions of an crocodile, and then explain how you will "negotiate" with it.  

Policies not Politics


"Most rational people?" (4.00 / 1)
That just strikes me as so odd. What "rational" people? If emotions weren't inexorably tied to reasoning functions then autism would be something like the norm rather than a relative anomaly. This argument, which seems to persist in these threads, baffles me.

[ Parent ]
Ideologue vs Idealist? (0.00 / 0)
Just curious if there is any difference in the minds of those at this site, or if "idealist" has any place in this discussion (since it seems to be absent).  

Why are we discussing terminology here? (0.00 / 0)
Is this the Open Left Academy or the Open Left?

In Eugene Ionesco's "absurdist" play "Rhinoceros" people sat around discussing what precise type of rhinoceros everyone seemed to be turning into, rather than what to do about it.

So it is here.  Chris, you're right, for what it's worth, about ideologue vs. non-ideologue.  But I am more worried about the fact that while the Southern GOP now feels emboldened to put union-busting on it's very banner, and Evan Bayh is forming the blue dogs into a caucus, WHERE THE BLOODY HELL IS THE CAUCUS that says the UAW is here to stay, racing each other to the bottom of the economic barrel is un-american and wants to fight about it?

Anybody talking about making Bob Corker PAY for his anti-worker bias?  Why the hell not?

Why oh why are they still bold and we still timid?

sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.


I think we are in a time when Ideology can be an important battleground (0.00 / 0)
As I read this site more, I realize that I am probably out of my intellectual depth.  But, I have a hard time getting beyond the notion that ideology is the basic determination for voting among many Americans.  Going into the depths of micro and macro economics or obscure political and philosophical debates turns many  voters off.  They want to have an ideology that is consistent with their beliefs, and does not require six or eight years of college to explain.
 Entirely removing ideology from a political party seems to cede a large portion of the battle of ideas to the opposition.  While it also appears that the opposition is suffering from ideological failure, which could be capitalized on by the formulation of a more attractive set of ideals, that resonate with the "common American," who wants to participate, but feels inadequate or intimidated.
 I think that there is a rising angst about who has taken over the Republican Party (and large elements of the Democrats as well).  That they have gone from "Small government" to giant empire.  That we are witnessing the crossing of the Rubicon, and that Republicans have lost all fear of empire, in the form of corporatism masquerading as "Free-trade."  It's not so much "American" as it is "Multi-national."  For instance, are we "exporting Democracy" to Iraq, or are we conquering a sovereign country for the corporations who gained a seat at Cheney's super secret energy meetings, while profiteering off of the tragedy of 9/11, and "taking our eye off the ball" in Afghanistan and Pakistan?
It's my sense that Democrats and American Labor could profit by pointing out that the owners of multinational corporations are growing fat off of world domination, while genuine America rots from the inside out, fearing the backlash of "anti-protectionist" sentiment fomented by free-marketeers.
There is still an idealist notion of America that resonates from the enlightenment, and I think many people feel that it has become endangered by a rising tide of Corporate control, which has the money and can sufficiently "own the podium" to overpower and dominate the stage, without being "of the people and for the people."

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