Harry Reid's Views on Race

by: David Sirota

Sat Jan 03, 2009 at 14:59

NEXT-DAY UPDATE: A day after this post, Reid appeared on Meet the Press to deny the Sun-Times report that he believes - or told Gov. Blagojevich - that he believed top Illinois African American leaders were "unelectable." I'm glad Reid did this, and in the spirit of "innocent till proven guilty," believe him. That said, it doesn't negate the fundamental point of this post, which is that in political circles, black candidates are often billed as politically inferior or "unelectable," - and that such latent racism is considered mundane. We need to get over that racism, and if this Reid controversy - whether rooted in fact or rooted in Blagojevich spin - helped forward the dialogue on that racism, then it's a good thing. - D  

If you believe what the Chicago Sun-Times is reporting today*, then its fair to ask whether Harry Reid (D-NV) has some very disturbing - and very disturbingly outdated - views on race and politics:

Days before Gov. Blagojevich was charged with trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, top Senate Democrat Harry Reid made it clear who he didn't want in the post: Jesse Jackson, Jr., Danny Davis or Emil Jones.

Rather, Reid called Blagojevich to argue he appoint either state Veterans Affairs chief Tammy Duckworth or Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, sources told the Chicago Sun-Times.

Sources say the Senate majority leader pushed against Jackson and Davis - both democratic congressmen from Illinois - and against Jones - the Illinois Senate president who is the political godfather of President-elect Barack Obama - because he did not believe the three men were electable.

Jackson, Davis and Jones are three top African American leaders in Illinois - they are each eminently qualified and have lots of experience winning elections. And yet according to the Sun-Times, Reid believes they are unelectable, while insisting that two non-black candidates are more electable. Sure, you can make individual arguments against each of those candidates - just like racially motivated employers can make individual arguments about why they fired this or that African American employee. But (if this story is correct) what gives away Reid's broader and more disturbing views on race as a whole - what tells us that this is less about individuals and more about an overarching view that black heritage is synonymous with inability to be elected - is his inclusion of Tammy Duckworth in the "electable" category.  

David Sirota :: Harry Reid's Views on Race
This isn't to say that Madigan or Duckworth aren't "electable." In fact, the story really has nothing to do with them - it has to do with Reid pushing the idea that if you are a black person, you are a less politically attractive candidate to the Washington Democratic Establishment based on the discredited fallacy that if you are black and have won elections you are still less able to win elections than non-blacks who have never won elections.

Of course, winning elected office as an African American poses unique challenges. Racism remains alive and well in America - and especially in politics, where self-fulfilling ideologies (ie. if you are black you can't win) keep minority or female candidates down, and preserve the largely white male power structure inside the Beltway.

But as everyone from Barack Obama to Deval Patrick has shown, those challenges can be overcome. And what's so absurd about Reid's apparent view is that it is being expressed about an appointment to fill the seat of Obama - an African American who won statewide in Illinois - just after Obama won the presidency. It kinda makes you wonder if Reid would have told Illinois Democratic leaders back in 2004 not to back Obama for Senate because he was supposedly "unelectable."

Make no mistake about it - whether the Sun-Times story is accurate or not (and I sure hope it isn't), the undeniable fact is that the image of African Americans as inferior political candidates remains widespread in Washington's political circles even after the 2008 election, and such views are a more subtle form of racism than overt hatemongering.

Let's be real clear: Nothing in Reid's career suggests he dislikes African Americans or thinks they are inferior humans - but alleged moves like this (which are widespread throughout politics) suggests he believes African Americans are inherently inferior political candidates. That may be because he thinks America is a racist country, but his reasoning - however benevolent or not - matters far less than the expression of his belief - in this case, allegedly using his power to try to shove aside the major African American candidates because they are supposedly "unelectable." By allegedly lining up the Democratic Establishment against these candidates (and thus aligning money and infrastructure against them), he is indeed creating a self-fulfilling prophecy that actually makes these African Americans less electable.

The reason this Sun-Times story hasn't generated more news actually confirms the prevalence of these troubling views on race and politics. It's not newsy that a top Democratic official thinks the major black candidates are inferior to the major white candidates in a Senate race because that's how it's always been. Indeed, in many ways, the Democratic Establishment remains decidedly Old School in the worst sense of the term, too often seeing diversity - whether racial or gender - as a political liability rather than a strength. It may be the 21st century, but often the ugly ghosts of the 19th century still haunt the party.

*Let me add that I'm still hoping Reid issues a statement explaining how this story is wrong, or the Sun-Times retracts it.

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How do we go from (4.00 / 1)
"If you believe what the Chicago Sun-Times is reporting today, then its clear Harry Reid"


"Reid's views"?

Shouldn't that be "Reid's alleged views"?

It's not "alleged" if Sirota says it's so (0.00 / 0)
It's true that the story doesn't contain a shred of evidence about Reid's views on race, but let's not allow to stand in our way. Reid denies opposing anyone or suggesting anyone, but let's just skip over that part. And the source of this alleged information is the Illinois governor's office, the same people who put Bobby Rush out front and center to say that any opposition to Burris was tantamount to lynching, but who cares? Reid is obviously a racist. I hope Sirota says this on TV so we can watch it on youtube forever.

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Do you know the source is from the governor's office? (4.00 / 1)
Or are you assuming - not that it would be an unreasonable assumption (the info has to come from somewhere).

Regardless, the story seems likely to be true, given that Reid is not even denying it.  

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That's fair (4.00 / 5)
My mistake - I amended. You are right - I hope he issues a statement saying that this story is totally and completely inaccurate.

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Or they could just get the tapes released (0.00 / 0)
Blagojevich spokesman Lucio Guerrero confirmed that Reid (D-Nev.) and U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) - the new chief of the Senate Democratic political operation - each called Blagojevich's campaign office separately Dec. 3. Sources believe that at least portions of the phone conversations are on tape.


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thanks. I always said you were a champ (0.00 / 0)

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Plus (4.00 / 1)
Both Barack Obama and Carol Moseley Braun have won recent Senate elections in Illinois despite being black!

Usually I'd say we should give Reid the benefit of the doubt, but I really don't think he has earned it. Why is he still the Majority Leader?  

As to this question, (0.00 / 0)
Why is [Harry Reid] still the Majority Leader?  

Beats me. Harry Reid couldn't be a leader of sheep.

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Get fucking worse. (0.00 / 0)
Um, there's no "may" about this. We can debate Burris all we want, but there is no question about whether the senate has the authority to seat an unelected, unappointed Senator. It doesn't. Nonetheless:

It is possible, however, that all of Coleman's privileges may remain intact should the two parties reach an accommodation, and aides signaled that talks were occurring on the matter through Friday.

"We are still reviewing the situation," said Jim Manley, spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). "Norm Coleman should respect the conclusions of the Minnesota State Canvassing Board."


Does Harry Reid believe that (0.00 / 0)
Non Progessive Black Candidates like Al Wynn or Harold Ford Jr are strong general election candidates for Statewide office.

Black Candidates for Statewide office is divided into 4 groups.

1)The No Justice No Peace group(Bobby Rush,Danny Davis,Maxine Waters,Cynthia McKinney)- The people who protest alot- They are dead on arrival in the General election.

2)The Rap Sheet group (Mel Reynolds,Bill Jefferson,Frank Ballance)- Rising Stars who gotten themselves in the trouble with the law.

3)The Bill Cosby/Horatio Alger crowd (Barack Obama,Deval Patrick). These are the stronger general election candidates who appeal to moderate white voters in Downstate IL.

Jesse Jackson Jr fits the third category (Bill Cosby/Horatio Alger category.  

Um...? (4.00 / 1)
What's the fourth group?

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The ideal appointment for Obama's IL VACANT US Senate Seat (0.00 / 0)
would be Joyce Washington-

Joyce Washington was the black Health Care Executive/Nurse from Chicago who ran for Lt Governor of IL in 2002- She came in 2nd place in the primary and She ran for US Senate in 2004 but failed to register in the Democratic primary. She was overshadowed by Obama,Hynes,Hull,and Second and Third Tier candidates like Maria Pappas,Gery Chico,and Nancy Skinner.

Washington would have been a perfect US Senate appointment
Black,Female,Progressive and from the Health Care profession.  

The fact she failed to register in the Dem Primary... (0.00 / 0)
Kind of tells me she'd be a bad appointment... UNLESS a caretaker is being appointed, in which case... yes, She'd be good.  

Please dont assume a Democrat is an easy win in this state.  Its really not that way here.    The G6P is on a down turn, I agree... but especially with Blago's corruption, we are not a yellow dog dem state.  The suburbs swings Dem right now... they can easily swing back to a moderate Republican.

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Illinios is more Democratic than New Jersey. (0.00 / 0)
New Jersey is another blue state where corruption is big.
Yet Republicans have a tough time winning statewide office in New Jersey.

Regarding Illinios- A White Democrat from the Chicago Suburbs. Lisa Madigan,Dan Hynes,Alexi Giannoulus,Jan Schakowsky are strong general election candidates.

For a Black Democrat to win a Statewide Election in Illinios. They need to be from Downstate (State Senator James Clayborne-Bellevile-IL near St Louis. or Mixed Race/Ivy League Educated.- (Dan Seals or Barack Obama).

Joyce Washington not winning elections should not be a concern of what type of US Senator or Candidate she will be. It will be tough to tie Washington who is a political outsider to the Blagojevich scandal. Picking Washington in Illinois is similar to Bennet in Colorado- Bennet has not won or ran for any elected office.

Picking Washington helps Blagojevich with the Black Votes and the Female votes and He giving Illinios people a US Senator that is not a career politician but a Health Care WOrker. This can sell to white moderate voters in Chicago Suburbs.  

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Reid's son worked for Hillary's campaign in Nevada (0.00 / 0)
I felt then that Majority Leader Reid had a preference for Hillary over Barack. His protestations that his son had every right to back a candidate, and that Reid would keep an open mind, didn't leave me feeling any better. Especially when we saw how the Nevada caucuses turned out.  

Not seeing the relevance of that (0.00 / 0)

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White woman over Black man (0.00 / 0)
I think that's what he is hinting at here.

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Reid (4.00 / 1)
Reid is a moderate/conservative democrat from Nevada without a spine.  Is anybody surprised that the conservative Mormon democrat, who led a standing ovation for corrupt Stevens and voted against the Assualt Weapons Ban would prefer a white moderate senator?  This man is a member of a church that still doesn't admit it was a mistake to limit black participation and membership until 1979.  Having spent the last ten years of my life in Utah and Idaho, I have witnessed an embedded prejudice in Mormon culture.

When Wendell Ford retired from the US Senate in 1998. (0.00 / 0)
Which Democratic US Senator challenged Harry Reid for the Democratic Whip race or did Reid run unopposed.  

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Wow, so suddenly it's about race? (4.00 / 1)
Seriously??  Did you ever take into account that the three names mentioned all have their own flaws which actually don't have anything to do with them being black?  Seriously, once you know about Davis's connection with Rev. Sun Myung Moon, is that a person you really want to be promoted to U.S. Senator?  And has it fallen down the memory hole already that Obama's own list of potential successors did not include Jackson, Jr., despite him being Obama's campaign co-chair?

David, I normally love your stuff on economic populism, but here it seems you've swallowed the Bobby Rush Kool-Aid.

Update (0.00 / 0)
OK, seems I was basing that off of the initial story, which had JJJ left off the short list.  But the later report showed he was on the short list.  Argh, I saw the original report, but not the update on that.

Anyway, my point still stands that there may be legitimate reasons to oppose the three men, with their race having nothing to do with it.

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What flaws do they have that (4.00 / 1)
make them unelectable in my state? They've all won elections whereas Duckworth hasn't. We've elected the only two African-American senators in recent history. If Reid made a hiring decision in this fashion he'd be sued for racial discrimination.  

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People like Harry Reid are living in the Tom Bradley Effect Era. (4.00 / 1)
better yet the pre Barack Obama/Deval Patrick Era.

Carol Mosely Braun the other Black US Senator from Illinios lost because of the Scandals- Besides the scandals- She would have held onto her seat.

For a Black Candidate to win statewide office they need to adopt the Bill Cosby/Horatio Alger persona in order to appeal to moderate white voters in Chicago Suburbs and Downstate- This is why people like Dan Seals are stronger candidates for Statewide Office.

Black Candidate who run the No Justice No Peace campaign such as Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson- Rush,Davis,Jackson Jr, have tough time winning in the general election.

Look at the 2006 MD US Senate Race- The Republicans selected Michael Steele- the black sitting Lt Governor for that race. Democrats had a primary between Kweisi Mfume- the former Baltimore Area Black Congressman turned NAACP Chairman vs Ben Cardin- the White US Congressman from the Baltimore Area. Cardin won the Democratic nomination because Democrats thought Mfume was unelectable in the general election.  

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I still think (0.00 / 0)
JJJ can win... I just think it will be close.

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I agree with you about JJJ. (0.00 / 0)
How much appeal does JJJ the Chicago Suburban counties
Lake,McHenry,DuPage,Kane,Kendall,and Will.  

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Every candidate has flaws (0.00 / 0)
Including the candidates that Reid was pushing. Reid was concerned about their "electability," according to the story, not Rev. Moon.

It's possible that it was a coincidence that all the candidates Reid didn't like were black, and all the ones he liked were not black. But it's unlikely enough to make you wonder.  

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You don't know that. (0.00 / 0)
All you have to go on is what the Blagojevich spokesman is telling you.  How do you know there weren't other candidates Reid didn't want who weren't black, or if he said he was OK with other candidates who were black?  And as Blago showed by appointing Burris and then having Bobby Rush play the race card at that presser, don't think Blagojevich is above trying to cause some racial tension for Obama.

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Also... (0.00 / 0)
electability and Rev. Moon are related.  If he's appointed, there will still be a Democratic primary in 2010.  And you can be sure one of his primary opponents will bring up his ties to Moon, who's not exactly a well-liked figure among the Democratic base.

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"Electability" = general election (0.00 / 0)

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What would NV and US Politics be like had Harry Reid lost re-election in (0.00 / 0)
1998 to John Ensign. and in 2000- Former Governor Bob Miller  decided to run for the US Senate Seat vacated by Richard Bryan.  

Guess Bobby Rush and Roland Burris had a reason (0.00 / 0)
to say what they said...

thank you for at least commenting on it (4.00 / 1)
I do find it amusing that so many want to work around that ALL the folks he knocked out were BLACK.

First of all, this isn't about Davis or Jones, who would have been nothing but caretakers anyway. Actually, scratch Davis. Nobody thinking who actually follows Danny Davis, thought that he was SINCERELY considering leaving his SAFE Congressional seat, and the ability to pad that federal pension for another easy decade for something that would be OVER in 2010.

Jones, who had retired from the Illinois Senate, would have been a caretaker. Period. He's in his 70's, and this would have been the capper for a long public service career.

No. This was all about Jesse Jackson, Jr.

Deciding from ' on high', that Jesse Jackson, Jr. couldn't win.

When this all began, 'the talk' in the beauty and barbershops was,  "Man, it looks like they're trying to knock out all the Black candidates." To wit, Black folk were called ' paranoid'. And the whole, ' well, we just need the most qualified person for the job.', bullshyt, which always, once that phrase is used, seems to EXCLUDE Black folks.  Guess we weren't so ' paranoid' after all.

Amen (4.00 / 1)
I agree this is has always been about Jackson.

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What is controversial or polarizing about JJJ (0.00 / 0)
other than he is a son of Reverend Jesse Jackson who happens to be a controversial figure?

Senate Democrats including Harry Reid did not have a problem when Harold Ford Jr became the Democratic Nominee for the 2006 TN US Senate Race. Ford's father and other members of the Ford Family were indicted or arrested on corruption charges. and Tennessee is the most Conservative State. Republicans ran the ad feature the sexy white woman- saying Call ME. Despite all of that Ford Jr lost by a 51-48% margin.

Jesse Jackson Jr is running for the US Senate in Illinios which is strongly Blue and JJJ is more moderate than his father,Bobby Rush,and Danny Davis.

He can win the 2010 IL US Senate Race in the General Election.  

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His voting record (0.00 / 0)
He has a progressive voting record.  

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That is helpful. (0.00 / 0)
So for a Black Candidate to win a US Senate Race in a Blue State needs to have a voting record like Albert Wynn- The former Congressman from MD-4 Congressional District (Prince Georges County) who lost in the Democratic Primary last year. because of his Centrist Moderate voting Record.
Voted for the Iraq War. Voted for the Bankruptcy Bill,voted for the Cheney Energy Bill.

Blue State Progressive Democrats like Keith Ellison will have tough time winning the General Election because they are liberal and Muslim.  

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I think a progressive can win IL (0.00 / 0)
You will notice that Schakowsky is not on the list of acceptable either for Reid.

He does not want a progressive candidate at all. Especially someone like Jackson that has been known to stand his ground.

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Looking at the potential IL US Senate appointments who could easily win in 2010. (0.00 / 0)
Lisa Madigan,Dan Hynes,and Alexi Giannoulus, are safe choices for the 2010 IL US Senate. They have won statewide elections.
Madigan was elected IL Attorney General in 2002,re-elected in 2006. Hynes was elected IL Comptroller in 1998,re-elected in 2002 and 2006. Giannoulus was elected IL Treasurer in 2006.

If We were to select from the IL Congressional Delegation.
I doubt- Melissa Bean(IL-8) and Bill Foster(IL-14)will get appointed since they represent a Republican leaning Congressional District. I also doubt that Dan Lipinski(IL-3)and Jerry Costello(IL-12)since they are both Social Conservative White Male.

The list includes-
Bobby Rush(IL-1)-a black male from Southside Chicago.
Jesse Jackson Jr.(IL-2)-a black male from Southside Chicago
Luis Guitterez(IL-4)-Hispanic Male from Central Chicago.
Danny Davis(IL-7)-a black male from West Chicago
Jan Schakowsky(IL-9)- a White Female form Northern Chicago Suburbs.
Phil Hare(IL-17)-A White Progressive male from Downstate IL.

Looking at which candidate is unelectable in the General Election.
Bobby Rush because he is a former member of the Black Panthers which will alienate White moderate voters in the Chicago Suburbs and Downstate. Danny Davis because of his ties with controversial reverend Sun Yun Moon.

That leaves us Jackson Jr,Guiterez,Schakowsky,and Hare. Hare would get disqualified because he is a white male from Downstate IL- IL has a Downstate White Male US Senator-(Dick Durbin).

Jesse Jackson Jr and  Jan Schakowsky have a strong fundraising base- Both of them raised over 1 million dollars during the 2008 Congressional Election bids.

Schakowsky is a safe choice since she is a Progressive White Jewish woman from the Northern Chicago Suburbs.

Outside of the IL Statewide Consitutional Officers and IL Congressional Delegation. We can pick IL Congressional Candidates Dan Seals(IL-10) and Tammy Duckworth(IL-6).
If we were to select a Black Male- It would be Dan Seals.
Seals is a child of mix raced parents- Father is black,Mom is White. He is from the Northern Chicago Suburbs.

If we were to select a black elected official from IL that can win statewide election in IL. It would be
James Clayborne- The state Senator from Downstate IL.
Kwame Raoul- The State Senator who suceeded Obama in the IL state Senate. Raoul is a former Cook County Prosecutor.  

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Dude... (0.00 / 0)
Illinois is not STRONGLY Blue... Not in the way a state like Vermont is.

We are actually moderate Red downstate...

We have a DARK BLUE epicenter in Chicago...

And then the Swing Suburbs... which used to me moderate Red as a whole and have trended to moderate Blue....

We are not strongly blue and to keep spouting that really ignores a lot of political strategy in the state.    

Now... yes I think JJJ can win... although i think it will be a lot closer than you think, unless the GOP throws up a  dog... the reason for that... and the reason I don't think Reid wants Jackson IS his old man.   Jackson is both loved and hated in the suburbs...  people see him as someone who jumps in and meddles... not to be helpful but to further his own agenda... and it pisses them off.   Its all about the name.  Its not right, but its the reason.

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Are you a Republican . (0.00 / 0)
When was the last time a Republican won a US Presidential Race in Illinios? 1988. Clinton carried Illinios in 1992 and 1996 by a 54-37 percent margin. Gore carried Illinios in 2000 by a 55-43 percent margin. Kerry carried Illinios in 2004 by a 55-44 percent margin. and Obama carried Illinios in 2008 by a 61-37 percent margin. Illinios is a blue state like California,Connecticut,Delaware,Maryland,and New Jersey.
When was the last time a Republican won a Statewide Election in Illinios? 1998.
Peter Fitzgerald was the last Republican to win a US Senate Race in Illinios-but his 1998 Victory was a fluke due to scandals involving Moseley Braun. Before Fitzgerald was Charles Percy- 1978.
Republican Governors of Illinios-Jim Thompson,Jim Edgar,and George Ryan were moderates. When Bill Clinton became President. Edgar won re-election in 1994 during the 1994 GOP revolution. George Ryan was able to win in 1998 because Glenn Poshard the Democratic nominee was having problem with Pro Choice voters in the Chicago Suburbs. Republicans won every statewide elected office in Illinios in 1994.
Jim Edgar was re-elected Governor
Jim Ryan was elected Attorney General
George Ryan was re-elected Secretary of State
Judy Baar Topinaka- elected Treasurer
Loleta Didrickson- elected Comptroller.

IN 1998. Republicans won the US Senate Race unseating CMB and the Governorship. but Jesse White was elected Secretary of State and Dan Hynes was elected Comptroller.

In 2002- Democrats won the Governorship. Lisa Madigan was elected Attorney General, White was re-elected S.O.S and Hynes was re-elected Comptroller.

In 2006- Blagojevich,Madigan,White,and Hynes won re-election. Giannoulus was elected Treasurer.

The IL Congressional Delegation has went from a 10-9 Republican in 2002 to a 12-7 D.
Melissa Bean victory in 2004 in IL-8
Bill Foster victory in 2008  in IL-14
Debbie Halverson victory in 2008 in IL-11.

JJJ just needs to distance himself from his father like Obama had to distance himself from Reverand Wright.

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thank you for bringing up Harold Ford (4.00 / 1)
Because JJJ has spent this entire election season separating himself from his father, and calling his father on the carpet when his father spoke out of turn.

JJJ has spent his career building bridges to other communities, and supporting people outside of the box. Sometimes the candidates won, sometimes they lost, but he did it.

HIs wife is smart, charming, pretty and on the ball.

JJJ would have more than done the retail politicking that this would have entailed.

This is ALL about JJJ, and always has been.

They weren't afraid that he was unelectable.

Just the opposite.

They were afraid that he would win...and be there for a long time.  

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JJJ is in the similar category as (0.00 / 0)
Barbara Boxer (CA)- a San Francisco Liberal who narrowly won a US Senate Race in 1992 during the year of woman. Boxer won re-election in 1998 by 53-43 percent margin against (Matt Fong- Republican State Treasurer) and in 2004 by a 58-38 percent margin against (Bill Jones- former Republican Secretary of State). Boxer will win re-election in 2010 with more than 60% of the popular vote against on the outgoing Republican US House Members of CA who have higher ambitions.

Jackson wins the 2010 IL US Senate Race against Mark Kirk by a 54-46 percent margin. In 2016- Jackson wins re-election against Aaron Schrock.  

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"Black Is Beatable" has quietly emerged as the motto of Republican strategists plotting to ensure that their party continues to control the U.S. Senate after the 2004 election. The likelihood that a black candidate will emerge as the Democratic nominee in Senate races in Illinois and Georgia, and possibly Colorado and Florida, boosts Republican hopes of expanding their 51-49 majority.

In Illinois, the retirement of first-term Republican Peter Fitzgerald helped rather than hurt party prospects for keeping the seat. Any re-election bid is always a referendum on the incumbent, with the challenger on the attack. Fitzgerald was not a popular, entrenched incumbent, and he would have lost.

With Fitzgerald out, the Illinois Senate nominees will have to sell themselves and their ideas, or unsell their opponent. Republicans are hoping that the Democrats pick an unsalable candidate, and that they can spend millions of dollars to make him unelectable.

At present, it's likely that Illinois' Republicans will nominate a rich white guy, and it's also likely that the Democrats will nominate a black candidate from Chicago, state Senator Barack Obama. Given that scenario, the rich white guy will win.

This article was written 8 months before Obama won the Democratic Primary for the 2004 IL US Senate race.  

Ironically... (0.00 / 0)
The GOP DID expand their majority in that election... just not for the reasons stated.

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Because every Southern Democratic US Senator up for re-election in 2004 decided to retire. (0.00 / 0)
Bob Graham FL retired
zell Miller GA retired
John Breaux-LA retired
John Edwards NC retired
Fritz Hollings SC retired

Graham,Miller,and Breaux would have won re-election had they ran again. Edwards-NC would have lost re-election but that would have been off setted by Fitzgerald loss in IL. Hollings would have faced a tough re-election campaign but would have won re-election.  

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TO be fair... (0.00 / 0)
Lisa Madigan is hands down the most electable of the five mentioned...   She could be a fixture for years to come... I just don't think she wants it right now, but would rather be Governor.  

I don't know enough about Days to say whether he can win.  

I think Jackson can, although I am guessing Reid is thinking that the suburbanites who supported Obama in wide numbers in 2004 will not support Jackson (mainly due to his dad is y guess)... and to be honest... I don't honestly know... I don't think he is as much a slam dunk as Madigan would be, but I think he'd be strong.  

Jones could be formidible, but he is older as well... I doubt he stays past 1 full term.    

I'm not sure what this hardon that people have for Tammy Duckworth is.  She seems like a nice person and she is a wounded vet... but I thought she ran a terrible congressional campaign.     I don't think she has what it takes to be a politician...

I think she's great in appointed positions...   Sec of VA, Ambassador, etc.  But not Senator.   Frankly, I think Reid is a bit of a moron.  Time for Durbin or Chuck Schumer or someone else to take charge.

Remember back when the NYT said Hillary (0.00 / 0)
had given a speech in Arkansas blaming the Democrats for "wasting time" in Washington...

a lot of people piled on her from the left, but then a reading of the transcript showed she'd been talking about the GOP leadership in 2005.  The reporter just made a mistake.  But we'd already assumed the worst about Hillary.

Let's remember that the Sun-Times is a conservative paper and they love intra-Dem fights.  Let's also remember that Blago is cagey and vetoed Illinois' new ethics law, and this article fits right into Blago's scheme to get himself out of the vise he's in.

Wrong about the Sun Times (0.00 / 0)
If anything I would argue that Sun Times is the more liberal of the two Chicago papers.

  I think under the circumstances Fitzgerald should release the tapes.  Or would that be too much like seeing sausage made?

You are right about Blagojevich,  he knows what everyone else said on those tapes will embarrass them as well and he wants to get as much out there as he can prior to the trial.

As I have said all along the best things for the Democrats would be to seat Burris with no fuss and then this is out of the news cycle.  Reid just did not believe his remarks would be made public.
He would not be the first to underestimate Blagojevich.

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sorry. The TRIBUNE is the Republican paper (0.00 / 0)
Their endorsement of Obama was the first Democrat in the paper's HISTORY.


It's as GOP as GOP gets.

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Questionable Sources (0.00 / 0)
Since Reid's office has now flatly stated that the Sun-Times story is not true, and that Reid did not express to Blago a preference that he not consider those three, and that Blago is making it all up, we are left with a bit of he said/she said.

And although I am most definitely not a Reid fan, I find it interesting that such allegations coming from Blago's office fit perfectly with their blatant attempts to inject race into the issue. This could easily be retaliation from Blago against Reid for suggesting that Burris will not be seated.


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