New Yorkers Saying No to Aristocracy As Sole Qualifier In a Democracy

by: David Sirota

Mon Jan 05, 2009 at 18:04


As billionaire Republican Michael Bloomberg dispatches his thuggish aides to presumptuously berate Democratic Gov. David Paterson for daring to consider appointing anyone other than Caroline Kennedy to the New York Senate seat, a new poll shows New Yorkers are incredibly uncomfortable with the idea:

44% of the state's voters now say they have a lesser opinion of Kennedy than they did before she started vying for the position. 33% say it's made no difference, and 23% report now having a more favorable opinion of her. A plurality of Democrats, Republicans, and independents all say that her efforts have caused them to view her less favorably.

When it comes to whether they would prefer to see Kennedy or Andrew Cuomo appointed, 58% now prefer Cuomo to 27% for Kennedy. Cuomo is favored by 65% of Republicans, 59% of independents, and 54% of Democrats.

I know what you're thinking - Cuomo is a version of political aristocracy, right? Well, sure - but the point here is not that aristocracy is automatically horrible - it's not, and I never said it was. There are terrific leaders with ties to political aristocracy, from Ted Kennedy to Ned Lamont. The point here is that political aristocracy* ALONE should not be the sole or even most important determining factor in American politics - and most especially in appointments.  

David Sirota :: New Yorkers Saying No to Aristocracy As Sole Qualifier In a Democracy
Kennedy has never run for office and hasn't strongly delineated her positions on most issues. The most we really know about her is that she campaigned for Barack Obama and is the daughter of John F. Kennedy. By contrast, you can say what you will about Cuomo, but the guy has run in statewide elections, and won one, meaning he has clearly elucidated many public positions on key issues, and has had experience representing constituents.

Of course, IMHO, aristocracy shouldn't be the sole or even most important determining factor in elections either, but as evidenced by the electoral success of do-nothings like Evan Bayh, clearly it is. But at least in that case, the citizenry makes the choice. That's democracy, baby - you live by it and you die by it.

That's different than an appointment - which is, by definition, undemocratic. I would argue that in appointments, governors should actually prioritize putting people in office who have very deep experience representing as many of the people they will be representing in the new office as possible. Why? Because in a democracy, it seems appropriate to try to limit autocracy (ie. representation without election) as much as possible - even in an undemocratic process like an appointment, where one person gets to select the representative of millions of people. In that case, the way to mitigate the inherently undemocratic nature of the situation is for a governor to at least try to put someone in office who constituents have a prior representational relationship with. After all, the U.S. Senate may be the House of Lords, but officially, senators are still supposed to be representatives, no?

This is why I - and many other Coloradoans - are so incensed about Gov. Bill Ritter's selection of Michael Bennet to replace Ken Salazar (and most of the criticism deserves to be directed not at Bennet, but at Ritter for making the inexplicable selection). Bennet has barely lived in state for a decade**, hasn't ever run for or won elected office, and has no record - or even public positions - on most key issues before the U.S. Senate. Indeed, at the press conference announcing his appointment, Bennet smugly shrugged off questions about where he stands on the issues - as if that's less important than the fact that he's already launched a 2010 election campaign website. Evidently, getting elected to a seat he was given by virtue of his connections to the Beltway Establishment and Colorado corporate community is more important than telling us how he will cast his Senate votes in our name.

If even one of these factors weren't undeniably true, there might be some shred of meritocratic legitimacy to the Bennet appointment, even in the face of other far more qualified candidates. But there isn't - and the problem with that is obvious. To be "represented" in the Senate by someone like this - regardless of how he ends up voting as a Senator (and I sure hope he casts progressive votes) - isn't to really be "represented" at all, because Coloradoans have not only had no say in that representation, we have no idea what we are really being represented BY.

The forces of money and power in New York are trying to replicate what their counterparts engineered here in Colorado. And I'm guessing that what this new poll really shows is that New Yorkers have caught onto the shenanigans and are disgusted. That's not a surprise. New Yorkers - like most Americans - probably don't like the idea of someone getting to represent them who has never represented anyone, and who would get the office almost solely on her last name. We may be a culture organized around celebrity, and at times that cultural organization seems intent on creating a quasi-royalty out of our congressional representatives, but perhaps there are limits to that kind of thing. Even as we celebritize the presidency and politicians, perhaps there are still certain lines that the mass public doesn't want crossed - the line separating hype-created quasi-royalty from actual, real hereditary royalty.

* Previously defined loosely as insider connections, ties to money/privilege, power derived from genetic lineage, etc

**By the way, I've only lived in state for about 2 years...but before you say its hypocrisy to question Bennet's tenure living here, remember: I'm not running for, or asking to be appointed to, the U.S. Senate to represent this state.


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Sure (0.00 / 0)
After hacks and NY establishment media slammed her non stop 24/7 she lost some of her fav ratings. too bad she is still going to be the choice, you just watch.

If a few bad headlines are all it takes to send her poll numbers into a death spiral (4.00 / 1)
then I don't think she'll make a very good senator.  

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Few? (0.00 / 0)
more like hundreds. most of whom their only big problem with her was that her name was Kennedy.  

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Uh, no. (0.00 / 0)
The NYT interview was incredibly unconvincing. You can only say "you know" so many times before it begins to rub. Given there was limited substance to the interview, the style became more significant than it might have been. And she bombed on that point.

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Andy Cuomo, Squire of Albany (4.00 / 1)
I love the idea of appointing local gentry like Squire Andy instead Princess Caroline. After all, what the Senate really needs is another shrieking medocrity, mediocre in every way, rather than a merely personal mediocrity like Princess Caroline.

But still...

This particular Senate seat is being vacated by none other than the ultra-meritocratic Queen Hillary, whose sole qualification for higher office, or lower office, or even having a small office somewhere in the suburbs near Bethesda, was her Royal Highnesshood as a former First Lady, and appointing a mere Squire like Squire Andy to fill Queen Hillary's sensible shoes would be an incredible come-down for status-conscious New Yorkers.

So all in all I favor Princess Caroline, and I already lined up a beautiful roster of Hollywood meritocrats for her inaugural ball, with Tory Spelling, Rumer Willis, Drew Barrymore,  Kate Hudson, Carrie Fisher, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jamie Lee Curtis, Liza Minelli, Melanie Griffith...

And so on.


Hillary's qualification (4.00 / 3)
was winning the votes of a majority of New Yorkers.  

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She won a particular constituency of New Yorkers.. (0.00 / 0)
And her voting record reflects a quid pro quo arrangment.

Caroline is perfect.  She has enough power and money to not have to kiss anyones ass and will vote not only for the betterment of New Yorkers, but the benefit of us all.  Both here and abroad.

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She might not have to (0.00 / 0)
Although if she doesn't improve fast, she will need to be pandering like there's no tomorrow.

But even if she doesn't need to be anybody's pawn, that's no evidence she'll be on her side. We don't know her. We don't know what she thinks on so many issues, nor what she'd be like as a legislator. It's at least equally as plausible that she forges her own course and it's the standard socially liberal but corporate friendly boilerplate we get from a lot of disappointing Dem congresscritters.

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Is Carpetbagging a qualification for the Senate? (0.00 / 0)


"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

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no (4.00 / 3)
winning a majority of votes is

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Bennett (0.00 / 0)
Maybe you should run for Senate from Colorado. Seriously, if Bennett is as bad as you suggest, start making plans now to challenge him within the party.  

does anyone know why nydia velasquez wasn't interested in the seat? (0.00 / 0)


Unicore Shit Skittles (0.00 / 0)
Nydia can't raise the kind of sums from the slums of Brooklyn the way a Manhattanite like Kennedy can. Pu-lease!

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Velazquez (0.00 / 0)
An unaccomplished member of Congress who represents a ridiculously gerrymandered district, hasn't run a real race since 1992 and can't raise money sounds like a great statewide candidate.  

The rumor is the main reason her name even came up was that the trio of State Senators (Ruben Diaz Sr, Pedro Espada and Carl Krueger) who are making it impossible for Dems to organize the State Senate were trying to force Paterson to appoint a Latino to the seat.  As soon as their game fell apart in the State Senate, Velazquez fell off the radar.


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unaccomplished as opposed to caroline kennedy? (0.00 / 0)
please.

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and in case you're interested (4.00 / 1)
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I Know Her Voting Record (4.00 / 1)
and its great.  So is the most of the NY House delegation and I wouldn't most of them as my Senator.  

My point is Velazquez has no major legislative accomplishments to her name after 16 years in Congress.  Contrast that to Carolyn Maloney or Jerry Nadler or Nita Lowey or even Charlie Rangel despite his legal and ethical problems.  These people crank out legislation and are major players on a host issues.  Chairing the Small Business Committee doesn't count - it is a nothing committee with little power which most people try to get off of at the end of their freshman terms in Congress.  Most major small business legislation is either handled at the Ways and Means or Appropriations Committees.

I'd love to see a Latina Woman in the Senate but Velazquez is a lightweight who would probably lose a primary.  She has shown no interest in being visible outside her district until now.  I do not see her as a good Senate candidate.

Of the serious candidates being considered, I'd go with Carolyn Maloney personally.


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Andrew Cuomo and Caroline Kennedy (0.00 / 0)
are the only two candidates with universal name recognition in New York State. The big difference between Andrew and Caroline is Andrew won election to a Statewide Office- 2006 NY Attorney General. Caroline has not held any elected office.

It would be great if Caroline Kennedy becomes Lt Governor. her cousin Robert Kennedy Jr. runs for Attorney General.  


well wouldn't an appointed seat (0.00 / 0)
be a wonderful opportunity to help someone who is great but doesn't have name recognition actually get some?  or do we just go for whoever has the biggest name without any consideration of substance now?

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Senator Me (0.00 / 0)
I live in NYC.  Bloomberg should appoint me.  I have as much experience as Kennedy does.  


You Want to Lobby David Paterson Not Bloomberg (0.00 / 0)
Paterson is the one with the power to make the appointment.

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Yes (0.00 / 0)
Bloomberg is powerful in the city b/c the NY City Council is a paper tiger.  However, he loses regularly in Albany even when he is right like with his Congestion Pricing proposal.  The guy has little clout in Albany.

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Great news on the NY front (0.00 / 0)
Too bad about Colorado. And the one appointment so far that isn't revolting just happened to be made by a governor that is revolting.

It is amazing that, when devoid of elections, our democratically elected government devolves instantly into a shameless aristocracy.  

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Amazing, isn't it? (0.00 / 0)
It is amazing that, when devoid of elections, our democratically elected government devolves instantly into a shameless aristocracy.  

It's almost as if we broke off from Britain for no reason. Why do so if we're going to keep an aristocracy anyway?


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Because (0.00 / 0)
"Its good ta be da King.", as Mel Brooks might say.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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We're still worse (0.00 / 0)
We got rid of most of the hereditary peers (although there are about 90 left plus the bishops,) but we appoint all our upper house, and most of them are useless timeservers (when they even bother to turn up.)

Although sadly, that doesn't always mean they're worse than the MPs, especially when it comes to civil liberties.

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