Obama's Economic Push: The Good, the Bad & the Ugly

by: David Sirota

Thu Jan 08, 2009 at 12:49


Note: Per Chris's introduction, I'm thrilled to be starting full-time here at OpenLeft. As you may know, I hold down a few jobs - syndicated columnist, fellow at the Campaign for America's Future, editor of In These Times magazine - and now OpenLeft blogger. Working on this site is really a perfect fit for me, as I'm excited to be able to integrate all my other work into the kind of movement-building we're doing here. So a big thank you to Chris, Mike, Matt and the rest of the OpenLeft team - and to you, the community that makes this site so great. Onward! - D

With President-elect Barack Obama's dramatic speech today, he is sounding the economic alarm that the Bush administration needed to sound long ago. While Bloomberg News reports that Bush "is using the waning days of his presidency to implement a raft" of corporate giveaways, Obama plans to use the first days of his term to confront this crisis head-on - and that's critically important because as any psychologist might tell you, the first step in solving a massive problem is to admit that it exists. But, as always, the devil will be in the details. So without further ado, here's the good, bad and ugly of what we know about Obama's economic recovery proposal.

David Sirota :: Obama's Economic Push: The Good, the Bad & the Ugly
The Good: Understanding the Scope of the Problem

As evidenced by this passage in his speech, Obama clearly understands how big a crisis we face:

"If nothing is done, this recession could linger for years. The unemployment rate could reach double digits. Our economy could fall $1 trillion short of its full capacity, which translates into more than $12,000 in lost income for a family of four. We could lose a generation of potential and promise, as more young Americans are forced to forgo dreams of college or the chance to train for the jobs of the future. And our nation could lose the competitive edge that has served as a foundation for our strength and standing in the world. In short, a bad situation could become dramatically worse."

Obama also seems ready to reassert the government's role in the marketplace and the economy, saying "Only government can break the vicious cycles that are crippling our economy." That rhetoric will translate into proposals to spend billions on public infrastructure and re-regulate the financial industry.

In that sense, he is embracing the lessons of Franklin Roosevelt, and rejecting conservatives' increasingly loud claims that the New Deal "prolonged the Great Depression" - claims that are demonstrably false. As Census data shows, the pre-WWII New Deal spending and regulatory agenda resulted both in robust GDP growth rates and the single biggest decline in the unemployment rate in American history. Unbelievably, conservative think tanks have resorted to quite literally lying about government data, claiming, as the Heritage Foundation has, that the "New Deal never drove unemployment below 20 percent." As you can see from the Census Bureau's verifiable data from 1936 and 1937, that claim is a patent lie - and it's great that Obama and his economic team seems to understand that.

The Bad: Embracing the Old Tax Cut Fallacy

Earlier this week, Obama aides suggested that up to 40 percent of the economic recovery plan could be comprised of tax cuts. The problem with that is three-fold.

First, it undermines Obama's promises to push the policies that will most immediately and most effectively boost the economy. As Economy.com's Mark Zandi (himself a Republican and a top adviser to John McCain's presidential campaign) recently showed, historical data proves that spending on public infrastructure provides a 25 percent bigger boost to GDP than tax cuts. The Economic Policy Institute explains why, reporting that tax cuts are often "saved rather than spent, thus blunting its stimulative benefit - by comparison, other options such as infrastructure spending, aid to states, food stamps, and unemployment insurance (UI) benefits are much more cost-effective because they target the needs most likely to channel money back into the economy." It makes perfect sense.

Conservatives counter with a macro-argument that Obama seems to be embracing: namely, that lower taxes is the path to higher GDP growth, and higher taxes hurt GDP growth. But again, actual, verifiable data shows that's false - and not just data from the early 1990s when Bill Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed, but data over the last century. In a Boston Review essay entitled "No New Tax Cuts," Center for Economic and Policy Research economist Jeff Madrick reports:

"In recent years, Peter H. Lindert, a leading economic historian from the University of California, Davis, has comprehensively analyzed the literature. One argument against government is that public spending is unproductive and crowds out private spending. But, time and again, he found that studies claiming that high taxes reduce economic growth simply did not hold up. Lindert's exhaustive statistical analyses were based on eighteen countries over ninety years. No matter how he juggled the data, he found no relationship between the growth of GDP per capita and productivity and the level of taxes or the extent of social spending."

Second, while some of the tax cuts Obama is championing are targeted at the middle-class, the Washington Post reports that others are corporate giveaways that economists and lawmakers of both parties have previously derided as wholly ineffective, or worse - a reward to the very economic actors that created the current crisis.

For instance, there's Obama's proposal to let huge corporations use an accounting change to dramatically increase their tax write-offs - a privilege that the average tax filer does not have. As economist Dean Baker notes, this proposal seems specifically crafted to provide a stealth windfall to politically-connected Wall Streeters, who have already received roughly a trillion-dollars in bailout largesse:

"The media seem to have largely overlooked the Citigroup tax credit in their discussion of the latest items in President Obama's stimulus proposal. According to the Washington Post, the proposal will allow companies to write off current losses against taxes paid over the last 4-5 years, not just 2 years, as in current law. There are relatively few companies that could benefit from this tax break since most companies will not have losses so large that they would need more than two years of tax payments to balance them against. But, really big losers, like Robert Rubin's Citigroup, and other badly failing financial institutions, are losing much more money in 2008 and 2009 than they earned in 2006 and 2007."

Congressional Quarterly notes that Obama's corporate tax proposals are so inappropriate, they have already been twice rejected by Congress in 2008, with Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel (D) saying, "We need to provide relief to the [home] buyers and families themselves, not just the banks." (A bit of good news: The Washington Post reports that Congress is not about to rubber-stamp these tax cuts, with Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus saying his "preference is to invest a bigger share of the roughly $775 billion package in domestic energy programs." Meanwhile, the Politico reports that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is urging Obama to back an immediate repeal of Bush's upper-income tax cuts, rather than waiting for them to expire).

The last major problem with Obama's tax cut proposals is how they are being put forward in competition with public spending, potentially creating a "rob Peter to pay Paul" quandary. Specifically, news reports suggest that Obama is linking the two - and that the public spending component of the economic recovery package (clearly the most reliable stimulus policy) could be ultimately contingent on the size of the tax cuts (at best, a questionably stimulative policy)  at a time when many economists believe Obama's spending proposals are already too small. In a Beltway political culture still scorched by 30+ years of conservatives' anti-tax paradigms, it's entirely possible that congressional legislative negotiations will expand the tax cuts at the expense of the public spending, especially with Obama effectively validating the anti-tax mantra with his focus on tax cuts.

The Ugly: Now Is Not the Time To Talk About Slashing Social Security

A day before his major economic speech, Obama delivered a separate speech saying "We are beginning consultations with members of Congress around how we expect to approach the deficit," adding, "We expect that discussion around entitlements will be a part, a central part, of those plans." As the New York Times points out, that's coded politicalspeak for an effort to "reform" Social Security and Medicare, which history has shown is often itself politicalspeak for cuts to those programs.*

It goes without saying that simultaneously proposing new tax cuts and backing Wall Street bailouts while even vaguely floating the possibility of Social Security and Medicare reductions is the kind of regressive "let them eat cake"-ism one might expect from George W. Bush himself - not Obama. But even beyond the immorality of such reverse Robin Hood paradigms are the empirical problems. For a new administration that supposedly prides itself on "pragmatism," there would be absolutely nothing "pragmatic" - and absolutely everything "ideological" - about using slashing Social Security and Medicare to finance new tax cuts during this economic crisis.

Social Security and Medicare are among the most effective and efficient stimulus programs in America. The overhead costs of Social Security, for instance, are famously miniscule - the program simply provides direct stimulus checks to a segment of the population that needs the money the most (and spends that money fast). Likewise, as I noted in my first book, Hostile Takeover, the World Health Organization reports that just four cents of every health care dollar spent on Medicare goes to administrative expenses - far lower than the  15 cents of every health care dollar that goes to administrative expenses in private insurance.

Certainly, the two entitlement programs have their share of problems - but this crisis moment is not the time to even consider cutting them. Let's hope Obama's suggestion about entitlement "reform" wasn't code for cuts.

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Though Obama will inherits huge challenges upon entering office, he is in an enviable political position, having more political capital than any incoming president since at least Ronald Reagan - and the progressive broad strokes of his economic agenda imply he is ready to take advantage of an unprecedented legislative opportunity.

But the difference between transformative economic policies and half-measures will be the difference between a progressive movement that forces him to champion a progressive agenda and a progressive movement that either deferentially backs down and/or allows him to be bullied by a conservative movement that was resoundingly rejected in the 2008 election.  

The dynamics are clearly in progressives' favor - and the arguments for conservative appeasement are extremely weak. Indeed, it is absurd to claim that with huge Democratic congressional majorities and a decidedly progressive election mandate, the new president still must appease Republicans by embracing conservative policies. But as the shifting economic politics shows, turning "hope" into "yes we can" into "yes we did" will take sustained movement pressure, both backing up Obama on his best policies and challenging him on his worst.

* UPDATE: Dean Baker doesn't think Obama's declaration on Social Security and Medicare automatically means he's looking to cut those programs. I agree that it doesn't automatically mean that - but I disagree with Dean that Obama's statement "does not indicate any intention to cut Social Security." Obama explicitly tied his goal of reducing the deficit to entitlement reform (not to tax increases, etc.) - which logically at least suggests the consideration of Social Security cuts to reducing the deficit. That is, unless someone can produce a magic pony and explain how alleviating the deficit mostly through Social Security "reform" (rather than tax increases) means not using money from Social Security to pay down the deficit (ie. a cut in Social Security).  

** ADDITIONAL UPDATE FOR OPTIMISTIC THINKING: For the optimists out there (which includes me), I should note that it is also possible the Social Security "reform" may mean Obama fulfilling his campaign promise to raise the payroll tax cap so that it applies to income over $100,000. I don't think he was referring to that, especially considering his current focus on talking about tax cuts rather than tax increases (which is what the elimination of the payroll tax cap would be). But it is certainly possible, considering he promised to lift the cap when he ran for president.


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Excellent essay, David. (4.00 / 4)
I totally agree with this:

But the difference between transformative economic policies and half-measures will be the difference between a progressive movement that forces him to champion a progressive agenda and a progressive movement that either deferentially backs down and/or allows him to be bullied by a conservative movement that was resoundingly rejected in the 2008 election.  

So far, I see too many half measures, which is what I expected with Summers and the other neo-liberal economists.  The tax cuts for businness are not only the wrong approach, but many are unworkable.

These half measures are better than Bush, but may not achive what is needed.

Much of the progressive blogosphere, however, prefers hero worship to fighting for real change.  I'm glad you and Chris choose the people.  


Obama on the environment (4.00 / 5)
Environmental Initiatives and Obama's Stimulus -

Full text of the speech here.

A lot of good stuff in here folks - most of the goals are big, a lot of what I wanted to see:

"...To finally spark the creation of a clean energy economy, we will double the production of alternative energy in the next three years. We will modernize more than 75% of federal buildings and improve the energy efficiency of two million American homes, saving consumers and taxpayers billions on our energy bills. In the process, we will put Americans to work in new jobs that pay well and can't be outsourced - jobs building solar panels and wind turbines; constructing fuel-efficient cars and buildings; and developing the new energy technologies that will lead to even more jobs, more savings, and a cleaner, safer planet in the bargain..."

"Yes, we'll put people to work repairing crumbling roads, bridges, and schools by eliminating the backlog of well-planned, worthy and needed infrastructure projects. But we'll also do more to retrofit America for a global economy. That means updating the way we get our electricity by starting to build a new smart grid that will save us money, protect our power sources from blackout or attack, and deliver clean, alternative forms of energy to every corner of our nation. It means expanding broadband lines across America..."

"... insist that the first question each of us asks isn't "What's good for me?" but "What's good for the country my children will inherit?"

There are certainly things missing.  Notably, he doesn't talk about the opportunity to reinvest in public lands (for example, repairing National Park infrastructure and doing ecological restoration projects) to create jobs, and he doesn't sufficiently disavow the usual roads-and-sprawl bullshit we're going to hear from the Blue Dogs.  

He does talk about re-regulating Wall Street, and that it's government and corporations' faults, which is certainly on the right track.  But he also neither mentions nor denies that he'll be giving a rich Bush-style tax cut, as well as a poor/middle class one (which I wish I could decline, but which I sure will put to good use if I get it!), as is rumored.  Still, this looks good as a starting point.  


A Great Start! (4.00 / 5)
An excellent inaugural essay in your new role, David.  This is  definitely the biggest issue confronting us immediately (aside from the crisis in Gaza, which also seems fraught with mixed signals and possibilities) and you've done an excellent job in not just hitting the highlights but indicating how fit (or don't fit) together.

What I think that the talk of slashing Medicare and Social Security shows is that Obama has absorbed a good deal of the conservative hegemonic outlook he's grown up in politically since Ronald Reagan came to power, for all his talk about how critical of and opposed to it he has been.

Of course this is not really news to those of us who've been trying to ask probling questions for quite some time now.  But it is a revealing indication of just how deep the penetration of those ideas go into his thinking.  (Along with the tax cuts, of course.) He ought to be pushing back against such wrong-headed policies.  Instead, he's promoting them.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


Yes, it was always the problem (4.00 / 1)
with Obama, which is why I supported Edwards in the primaries in spite of Obama's antiwar speech in 2002 and historic candidacy:

He ought to be pushing back against such wrong-headed policies.  Instead, he's promoting them.

Since such polcies inevitably will fail and create much pain to working people, in the end, Obama will be forced to reject them.  That's real hope.  


[ Parent ]
tax cuts (4.00 / 4)
Great summary of the weird, absolutely non-progressive sound bites Obama has floated over the last week.

The more forgiving interpretation of Obama's emphasis on tax cuts is that he's seeking to push money into the economy faster than he thinks infrastructure projects can be started up. But even under that interpretation, it's hard to justify tax cuts that apparently have a track record of zero economic stimulus. Personnel=policy, anyone?

Even more disappointing is Obama's choice of what to emphasize. There probably is a rationale for having some tax cuts as part of the package, but in emphasizing the tax cuts (rather than, say, talking about setting up New Deal II) and allowing the media to frame those as a preemptive compromise with Republicans, Obama seems to be at best weak and at worst a part of the problem. (At best he's allowing the media to frame his actions - at worst, he's pushed the "compromise with Republicans" frame into the media.)


Tax Rebates (0.00 / 0)
Obviously, lowering the taxes of those who earn less money has a far greater chance of being spent than lowering the taxes on the wealthy.  Tax rebates go largely to the right people, but they traditionally come in large chunks, which psychologically suggests to people the opportunity to pay off some dept or save.  However (no link, read somewhere recently) Obama plans to spread the rebates over time by lowering how much money is withheld for taxes.  For most people, this should just work to get the money spent to spur the economy.

Much of the tax cuts Obama is suggesting is actually bad, like the tax cuts to businesses, but some is better than it may look at first glance.


[ Parent ]
Want To Push Money Into the Economy Fast? (4.00 / 2)
Fill the state deficits.  They're mostly due to falling incomes and rising social service costs.  Laying off more state workers will only make it worse.  That's money that can be spent easily with virtually no administrtive overhead, and no delay.  That's about $200 billion right there, as of early December, probably at least $10 or $20 billion more by time the stimulus is ready to sign.

It's not hard to find the need, if you go looking for it.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


[ Parent ]
Welcome to OpenLeft, newbie (4.00 / 3)
;)

A few points.

-I have not seen anything that suggests Obama is planning on cutting SS or Medicare. During the campaign he proposed some solid steps like raising the SS cap and will help strengthen the system without cutting benefits. Can't see how that's a bad thing if he runs with that. But we will see what happens. He would be extremely stupid to pick a fight with AARP and his entire base.

-I really hope we get something good from the congressional leadership for once. If Obama goes with the write off loses proposal we should fight to get that stripped from the bill and replaced at the very least with more efficient tax cuts and ideally more investment.  

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Slashing SS (0.00 / 0)
Populista, your 1st graph tooks my words.  I agree.

To an expanded point, I liked the ideas, but wished for a few other items on the menu. Still, its a good start. What is needed is public input. Patrick Buchanan (it hurts to type that name) often uses the imagery of people with pitchforks storming the ramparts. I wish that the progressives build bridges of common cause with the less progressive lower middle class and start handing out the pitchforks. There must be an energized wave of people power showing desire for these things to happen.

Powerful interests in Congress will try to pare this down by using their oft successful divide and conquer tactics. Ideas that are good and just will not be enough, nor will the support of the liberal blogosphere. Large groups of agitated voters applying pressure will be necessary. And that is what we need to work to create.



[ Parent ]
Funny... (4.00 / 1)
The bridge idea you are suggesting is what Obama was referring to when talking about post partisanship.   Coalitions of people working together to pass a common interest regardless of party... kind of what community organizers get the COMMUNITY to do.    

[ Parent ]
You are not noticing what Obama is really (0.00 / 0)
saying.

He's basically asserting that the major brunt of correcting for the deficits of future years will be placed on SS and Medicare. This is not simply correcting some supposed shortfall within, say, SS itself, or problems inherent to the funding of Medicare. It's saying that these programs will, in effect, made to bear the burden for correcting enormous shortfalls introduced elsewhere, such as in the stimulus package.

The point is, he's clearly signalling a major adjustment to these programs, well beyond anything he has described before.


[ Parent ]
I'm going to wait for more details before passing judgement... (4.00 / 1)
...right now, all we have is media spin on this very vaguely worded statement of Obama's...

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


[ Parent ]
While of course Obama's statements (4.00 / 2)
are characteristically vague, there's no way of disguising the import of this:

"We are beginning consultations with members of Congress around how we expect to approach the deficit," adding, "We expect that discussion around entitlements will be a part, a central part, of those plans."

That means that SS and Medicare must 1) be altered to deal with deficits introduced elsewhere and 2) will bear the major burden of doing so ("central part").


[ Parent ]
Um no... (4.00 / 1)
You are assuming it does... BIG DIFFERENCE.    Until its proposed, we have no idea.

Obama is extremely intelligent.  He knows that what you are saying won't pass even in this economy.   Most Dems will make sure of it.

It could easily be about streamlining administration to save.    It could be other entitlements...

Before crucifying him or put words in his mouth, lets wait to see the actual proposal.   In the mean time, keep making your voice heard pushing infrastructure changes.


[ Parent ]
SS & Medicare (4.00 / 1)
The point is, he's clearly signalling a major adjustment to these programs, well beyond anything he has described before.

I agree.  Obama has dropped hints in the past that he was open to such 'major adjustments,' so I'm not exactly stunned. This is exactly what we might have expected from him, in fact.


[ Parent ]
Please Cite... (4.00 / 1)
Where in the past he has said that?

[ Parent ]
Great essay (4.00 / 2)
And congratulations on the promotion!

In fairness to Bush Jr. not doing more, sooner (4.00 / 1)
With President-elect Barack Obama's dramatic speech today, he is sounding the economic alarm that the Bush administration needed to sound long ago.

In fairness, had the Bush Jr. administration done any more any sooner, they just would have lied even harder and destroyed more of the economy and handed it to the ultra-wealthy, so I personally don't criticize the Bushites for not doing enough.


FDR: "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." Let's make Obama do it. (4.00 / 2)
Let's not be bullied by conservatives who say "Obama better not do this or that or the other thing, or else Obama will lose the next election to Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney."

I don't think you're giving Obama enough credit (4.00 / 1)
According to the NYT summary:

"He said he aimed to double the production of alternative energy within three years, a seemingly ambitious target; computerize all medical records in the country within five years, a move he said could save lives, money and jobs; modernize 75 percent of federal buildings and improve energy efficiency in 2 million homes; upgrade classrooms, libraries and laboratories in thousands of schools, and expand broadband access to rural areas."

Sounds pretty good to me.


Great Start David! (4.00 / 2)
It's nice to see you as a regular here on Open Left. You'll fit in Matt Stoller's shoes quite nicely, like Rachel Maddow filled in for Keith Olbermann's a few nights (which led to her getting her own show).

Anyway, I too was very disappointed about Obama's plans re: tax cuts. Tax Cuts are not what we need in a depression. I agree with Paul Krugman: we need spending on infrastructure.

Strangely, my mother is keen on the tax cuts, which I don't get (BTW, if you remember, my mother is Dorothy Siegel, whom Dan Cantor partially credited for the strength of the WFP for her work in the South Brooklyn/Brooklyn Heights section of NYC), so this is not a case of "my mom thinks I'm cool." She's actually a strong progressive activist).  


The Ugly... (4.00 / 1)
I want to hear WHAT they propose to do with Social Security first (as I assume you do since this was in Ugly and not Bad).  

If they are talking saving money by streamlining administration, reducing unneeded staff, making better use of technology, etc... I'm all for it... I would expect most Americans to be... being more efficient is a great thing.

If they are talking benefit cuts or privatization, then I agree... that's  bad.  

Of course, with a good UHC plan, Medicare and Medicaid become irrelevant.  so hopefully they will target THAT as a way to reduce Medicare and Medicaid.

Until that aspect of the plan is announced, I will wait and see.

I do agree... public works over tax cuts... or better yet, both.   I could use the additional money from a tax cut....
Although I have no issue with Pelosi's suggestion of immediate repeal of the RIch cuts.


There's precious little to streamline in social security (4.00 / 2)
which has a 1-2% annual administrative overhead. You can't really cut much there without creating negative returns. Any cuts would have to come from some of the more inefficient Medicare programs, like Medicare Advantage and the drug program, and from Medicaid fraud. If Obama meant the latter, then he should have said so.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

[ Parent ]
Maybe I'm being naive (0.00 / 0)
But I simply don't believe the language about Social Security should be taken all that seriously, at least not yet.  It all sounds like BS, meant to feign cooperation and moderation.  

[ Parent ]
Nothing that a president-elect should be waved off as mere words (0.00 / 0)
Just because we don't and can't know what he meant doesn't mean that we shouldn't pay attention. He himself might not fully know what he meant, and any pressure that we preemptively apply might help sway (or keep) him in the right direction. With a new president coming in, all sides are jockeying for position and now is the time to make sure that our preferences are made known and well-represented. And if he is thinking about doing something that he shouldn't, now's the time to gear up for that fight. He's a big boy, and should be able to handle such criticism, even if it turns out to be premature.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

[ Parent ]
Obama can't be too clever and vague here (4.00 / 3)
If he meant reforming the wasteful portions of Medicaid (fraud) and Medicare (Advantage, drug program), or making minor tweaks to Social Security such as adjusting benefit increase indexing or raising the payroll cap, then he should have said so, so as to not let people jump to conclusions about cutting it. He can't afford to be vague about what he intends to do with these programs, because they're so politically volatile, and because many people depend on them. Nor should he put much faith in any bait and switch cleverness strategy that he might be trying to put over the right. They're not that dumb.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)

Cleverness (0.00 / 0)
...so as to not let people jump to conclusions about cutting it.

The only jumping that I have seen so far is from a few blogo-commenters and a rather disingenuous article in the Wash Times.  


[ Parent ]
If you think so little of "blogo-commenters " (0.00 / 0)
then why do you choose to be one yourself? Or are you one of the "good" ones?

In any case, one has to be pretty naive to not grasp that whenever a leading politician discusses "reforming" entitlement programs, it's cause for worry and speculation. But if you're content to be one of those "I trust him, leave him alone" types, prepare to be seriously disappointed, unless there are no policies that you feel strongly about and are just an Obama cultist.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


[ Parent ]
Oh, Come, Come (0.00 / 0)
I think you may be reading more into what I am typing than what is there.  For me, "blogo-commentators" was a non-evaluative noun.  Second, sure trust 'em, but remain vigilant, make desires known.....participate always.  My trip wire for sensing the need to worry may just be set a little looser than yours. Probably due to my advancing age (again, non-evaluative).  Our slightly differing views of this are just different voices in the same chorus, I would think.

BTW,  as a child, SS survivor benefits helped me out a great deal and helped pay for college, which was a lot cheaper then.  Before too many years, I will able to apply for regular ol' SS.  I am keenly interested  in what happens and will be paying great attention to what transpires.



[ Parent ]
Fair enough (4.00 / 1)
But whatever Obama intends to do, and whatever he actually tries to do, I see no downside in advocating against cutting SS benefits. And, given his troublesome statements and actions on SS and other matters in the past, I think that it's especially important to let Obama know where we stand on such issues. It's a matter of being a proactive part of the process, not a reactive ones. He might set the agenda, but we get to weigh in too.

Unlike the other side, we're Democrats AND democrats, and understand how the process is suppoosed to work. I.e. respectful but forceful and if necessary adversarial partisanship.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


[ Parent ]
Pushing Obama to do the right thing (4.00 / 1)
I'm not a fan of Andy Stern, yet he appears to be out front in mobilizing the troops to get a package passed.  

That is the effort that is needed to eliminate the bad and ugly from the Obama plan.

I live in a true blue state--I will have a choice in November


Good start (0.00 / 0)
I look forward to seeing how you work this with Chris to produce a framework for us to fight back against the bad bits.

Very good, very clear analysis. Thanks.

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