Obama's Bipartisan Talk Doesn't Disarm Republicans

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 15:05


Critiquing our "negativity" here at Open Left, BooMan writes the following (emphasis mine):

The critique of OpenLeft isn't that they are negative, but that they are using the wrong analytical frameworks and, thus, are coming to the wrong conclusions. It's hard to generalize about a blog that has several different front-pagers with different worldviews, but if there is a commonality to OpenLeft it is a tendency to focus like a laser on the spoken or written word. I don't want to characterize or reduce their analysis to liberal orthodoxy, but that is the lens thru which almost all OpenLeft's analysis is done. Articles and transcripts are parsed, and wherever something is found that clashes with liberal orthodoxy, the result is an angry, concerned, or panicky post that seeks to explain why the deviation is a major threat or huge warning sign.

This is the wrong analytical framework for the times, although that might seem counterintuitive considering Barack Obama's unique oratorical skills. But Obama's unique genius is precisely his ability to use language to inspire a generation of supporters and disarm would-be opponents.

Now, let me act like a U.S. Senator for a moment, and say that I really like BooMan, and consider him a good friend. For crying out loud, he introduced me to my fiancé.

Still, this is another variation of a widespread defense of President Obama's frequent exhortations on the need for bi-partisanship. By graciously reaching out to the other side in both words and deeds, Obama puts Republican and conservative opposition in a bind by forcing them to either be good faith actors who actually want to work with him and / or have actual principle, or be exposed as bad faith actors who simply want to oppose Obama and progress for the sake of opposing Obama and progress.

But is that really how it works? Are President Obama's opponents really disarmed by his calls for increasing bi-partisanship? Early indications are that by constantly harping on bi-partisanship, Obama will actually be attacked, and then opposed, by Republicans for not giving them an equal role in governance.

More in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Obama's Bipartisan Talk Doesn't Disarm Republicans
From the Washington Post:

Just days after taking office vowing to end the political era of "petty grievances," President Obama ran into mounting GOP opposition yesterday to an economic stimulus plan that he had hoped would receive broad bipartisan support.

Republicans accused Democrats of abandoning the new president's pledge, ignoring his call for bipartisan comity and shutting them out of the process by writing the $850 billion legislation. The first drafts of the plan would result in more spending on favored Democratic agenda items, such as federal funding of the arts, they said, but would do little to stimulate the ailing economy.

This shows one of the fundamental flaws in the various "Obama disarms the opposition" theories. Rather than talk of bi-partisanship forcing Republicans to either become good faith actors or be exposed as bad faith actors and then brushed aside, President Obama's constant talk of bi-partisanship has forced him to bow to Republican demands, lest he appear to be a bad faith actor when it comes to his calls for bi-partisanship and finding common ground.

There are good reasons to argue that Obama's call for "bi-partisanship" has actually armed Republicans during a moment when they otherwise would have no say over legislation whatsoever. The smaller than needed size of the stimulus is an example of this. The business tax cut proposal in the stimulus is an example of this. Obama's opposition to placing bankruptcy reform legislation in the stimulus is an example of this.

Because Obama is forced to get Republican support or appear to be just blowing smoke in terms of bi-partisanship, Republicans are thrown a lifeline to influence legislation. Obama can't simply echo Speaker Pelosi's response to Republican whining about the lack of bi-partisanship. Instead, he has to keep negotiating with Republicans over adding more tax cuts:

"Yes, we wrote the bill. Yes, we won the election," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told reporters yesterday, saying Republicans were not being realistic in their expectations.

Hoping to recapture the bipartisan spirit, Obama will host nine congressional leaders at the White House today for talks about the economic recovery package, which he has asked to be on his desk by Feb. 16, Presidents' Day. He also agreed to talk with House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (Va.) and other GOP lawmakers next week about their proposals for more tax cuts.

Now, you tell me, which language is more disarming to Republicans? Is it Pelosi's, who says that elections have consequences, and she will pass whatever Democrats want without asking Republicans for permission? Or, is it Obama's talk of bi-partisanship, which forces him to keep negotiating tax cuts with Republicans?

The answer is obvious. Obama's bi-partisan talk has not disarmed Republicans. Rather, so far it appears to have thrown them a lifeline during a time when they otherwise would have no power to influence legislation at all.  At this point, he would do well to follow the Pelosi path, and start talking about how elections have consequences. It is not too late, and I hope he changes his tune.


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"I won" (4.00 / 4)
I think the tune-changing may have already started.  


How it plays out (4.00 / 3)
As you mention, Obama himself states "I won:

President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation. [...]

But perhaps taking a cue from Obama's "I won" line when Democrats were asked if they were concerned about Republicans blocking the package, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had a swift one-word answer: "No."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the bill was on track for passage by February 16, while Republicans continued to voice their opposition. [...]

Pelosi suggested that the package, currently at $825 billion, could become even larger.

"It has grown," Pelosi said, "and we're still in the process."

Whether Obama's post-partisan rhetoric helps Republicans or not depends on how Obama plays it.  It is Obama who has the approval ratings.  He has already given many concessions, yet the Republicans keep complaining.  If Obama uses that, he'll be in great shape.  If Obama keeps trying to placate them on this bill, it will backfire.

Then on the next bill, rinse and repeat.  Republicans either take the concessions they are given and sign on, or look like spoiled children unwilling to play.

I don't know for a fact Obama will do this, of course.  Looks good today, but tomorrow could be different.

What BooMan doesn't understand is Obama needs the left to push hard to give Obama the room he needs to maneuver.


[ Parent ]
"Bipartisan" doesn't have to include Republican leaders in Congress - Obama needs to write off the Congressional Republicans (0.00 / 0)
Republicans either take the concessions they are given and sign on, or look like spoiled children unwilling to play.

Obama needs to tell the Republican Congressional leaders - in front of the MainStream Media - that they can either bargain in good faith or he will make them politically irrelevant.

Obama only needs to recruit two or three Republican Senators, then the Democrats can break any filibuster. It looks as though Voinovich is likely to be very open to recruitment. John McCain could continue his high profile by supporting Obama. Olympia Snowe is probably a good prospect, and her Maine colleague Susan Collins might well join her. Both Judd Gregg in New Hampshire and Specter in Pennsylvania are up for re-election in 2010 in states that Obama carried last November. Mel Martinez (FL), Sam Brownback (KS), and Kit Bond (MO) have all announced that they will not run again in 2010, and therefore no longer need to fear that in the 2010 primary they will be flogged by a right-wing challenger financed handsomely by the Club for Growth. Both Richard Lugar (IN) and Tom Coburn (OK) have worked with Obama to pass important pieces of legislation.

That gives Obama a list of about 10 possible Republicans from whom he only needs two or three votes to limit debate in the Senate. He should concentrate on recruiting as many of the Republican Senators as he can, and declaring that the support of those prominent Republicans shows that he has crafted a bipartisan Economic Recovery package.

If the House Republicans used the political science models of "rational choice theory" to make decisions, they would realize that if they let Obama sell the public on a plan that is bipartisan only by reason of the support of a few Republican Senators, they will prove to Obama that he can achieve "bipartisan" consensus without them, and he can write them off for the rest of this Congress. But since the House Republicans consistently behave like mad dogs, it is highly unlikely that they will realize the risk they run by trying to blackmail Obama into more concessions than he has already made.

I hope the House Republicans and Mitch McConnell stubbornly insist on bad faith bargaining tactics. The rest of the "Obama Revolution" - if it's coming - will go through so much more smoothly if he has a reliable 62 to 65 votes in the Senate with the help of a half dozen Republican Senators and he does not have to waste time for the rest of 2009-10 trying to placate Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell!


[ Parent ]
I think Obama was always going to have to learn for himself (4.00 / 5)
that Republicans are by and large not interested in good-faith cooperation. I could have told him that a long time ago, but I suspect that once he learns this lesson first-hand, it will stay with him.

[ Parent ]
yes, if only he had our hardened political instincts... (4.00 / 3)
but seriously folks, does anyone honestly think Obama doesn't know all this already?  that he first needs to "learn" what Republicans are really like?  I mean, he isn't exactly a political novice.  I seem to remember him winning a presidential election not too long ago.


[ Parent ]
In theory I agree with you (4.00 / 4)
but all available evidence suggests that Obama really isn't convinced of the scumbaggery of his opponents.

The only alternative is that he really is employing the kind of double-reverse upside-down jujitsu that some people insist he is. Maybe they're right, I don't know. But Ockham's razor would seem to favor the other explanation.  


[ Parent ]
Also (4.00 / 3)
it's worth keeping in mind that most of the bruising political battles that Obama has been through have been with other Democrats: Alice Palmer, Bobby Rush, Hillary Clinton. The 2008 general election was really the first time he felt the heat from the GOP in any serious way. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Obama's political career thus far hasn't left him with any particular animosity towards Republicans.  

[ Parent ]
True. (4.00 / 2)
He did in law school (Federalist Society), and from all accounts pissed off a bunch on the left by crossing over and trying to be nice with them.  These instincts go way back.

[ Parent ]
using language to disarm supporters seems to be just as important too, maybe -- (4.00 / 1)
one reason so many have to really examine his language and wording is because it always contains less than is apparent, and lots of wiggle room -- and/or doesn't actually do or say what people think or that they and the media say it does.

The exec orders on torture and Gitmo, for instance, don't clearly order anything closed or stopped or changed for real, except for those show trials.

and about the Mexico City rule too -- http://www.politico.com/news/s... --

...It might have been the perfect symbolism for Barack Obama - abolishing a key anti-abortion provision on the very anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision Thursday.

Yet Thursday came and went without Obama changing the rule, the way two presidents before him did on that day. Obama even issued a statement marking the 36th anniversary of Roe - but no rule change.

Instead, he's planning to do it Friday - and aides suggest he's choosing a different kind of symbolism, to show that he's not always going to do the usual Washington thing, even though his staunch supporters in the abortion rights community were pressing him to do it quickly.

It might seem like a small thing - the difference of a day - but it's a sign of how Obama at times seems to almost delight in keeping supporters just a bit off-balance.

It's also a way to send an subtle message to moderate and conservative voters that he isn't going to wear his support for abortion rights on his sleeve. ...

(i still haven't heard that he actually really abolished it yet, as of 3pm today)

On so much, scratching the surface and really examining things-- including what's said about something and what's factually true about those things and done about those things-- reveals entirely different and weaker actions, i'd say.


WSJ on the subject today: (4.00 / 1)
"By holding off on the policy change, the president hoped to divorce the question of family-planning funding from the frenzied and highly charged emotions surrounding the Roe anniversary, according to two people familiar with his thinking.

That's a respectful move, said the Rev. Joel Hunter, pastor of Northland Church, outside Orlando, Fla., an abortion opponent who has tried to expand the evangelical agenda.

'I really do appreciate their sensitivity to this day and this issue," he said. 'To do it [the policy change] on a day that pro-life people see as a day of grief, and a day of a really hurtful decision, would be, I think, very insensitive. And that's not who I think President Obama is or would mean to be.'

Other abortion opponents were not mollified. Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life, thinks the change in policy amounts to U.S. tax dollars funding abortion and sees no positive outcome. But she called the delayed timing 'a politically savvy move' by the White House.

Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, which offers abortion and family planning, says she doesn't care when President Obama changes the policy, as long as it is changed. "He has clearly stated his opposition to the global gag rule and his intention to overturn it," she said."

I actually think that it probably is a politically savvy move. It clearly did generate a more positive response. So it's going into the weekend news dump, it looks like? I'm w. Richards on this one.  


[ Parent ]
but who's being disarmed in that case? (4.00 / 2)
isn't it those of us who think he's already done it, and that him saying he did it means something?

anti-choicers are not at all disarmed, but pro-choicers are -- and it didn't even actually happen in reality.

and delaying it in no way disarms all those who are profiting from it (like all those faith-based groups getting our money, and Warren, and tons of others, etc)

There's this pattern of him and his team -- and the media -- announcing things that aren't what they say they are -- and these things get proclaimed here and everywhere else as done deals, when they aren't.


[ Parent ]
It's a day after Roe. v Wade's 36th. So? (0.00 / 0)
I don't think "disarming" is terribly pertinent here. It did buy him some degree of political capital- reread the  WSJ quotes- and it IS a done deal.

[ Parent ]
It has disarmed them (4.00 / 2)
I think you're missing the big picture here. Obama has effectively disarmed the opposition to the point where he is able to move legislation and policy forward, at least for now.

Just because a few, vocal hardcores are still insulting him doesn't mean he's not effective. Look at the "movement" to block Hillary, for example. Yes, there was a statement of opposition, but in the end there were only 2 votes against her.  

Sure, you can find opposition if you look hard enough, but this is the most "disarmed" the republicans have been in a long time. Most importantly, institutionally, the R's are back on their heels and going along even though a few individuals are speaking out.


But the question is (4.00 / 3)
why and how, exactly, they were disarmed. Was it because of Obama's conciliatory language? Or was it just the fact that they just got their asses kicked in November and have no real power?

[ Parent ]
of course... (0.00 / 0)
a major reason they got their ass kicked in November is that...Obama kicked their ass in November.

Look, I don't know if Obama is playing it smart or not with all the post-partisan jujitsu.  But I do remember that when Clinton came into power in '93 he had the same Dem trifecta, was fresh off an ass-kicking, and when he went to pass a stimulus package 1/10 the size of this one...he failed, because Bob Dole out-manuvered him.  


[ Parent ]
Right, but (4.00 / 1)
Obama didn't kick their ass by "disarming" them. He kicked their ass by kicking their ass. (Try arguing against that logic!)

[ Parent ]
it's airtight, I agree (4.00 / 1)
:)

actually, I agree with you that Obama is, by disposition, not a real partisan-warrior type; that he prefers civility over conflict; that he is far more willing to take Republicans seriously than I would ever be.  That said, I've seen no evidence that he is naive about the limits of bipartisanship, or that he's willing to sacrifice meaningful parts of his policy goals to achieve it.  Which is what could have happened today in place of "I won".  

I also think some people are too quick to dismiss the possible benefits to winning over a few moderate GOP senator through the bipartisan schtick.  True, it doesn't matter NOW, for the stimulus, which the Democrats can probably pass on a party-line vote.  But on something like immigration reform or cap-and-trade, having a relationship with a McCain or Collins or Snowe could make a major difference.  


[ Parent ]
'93 is different thant 09. (4.00 / 3)
Clinton was not yet skilled in dealing with Congress, nor was he up to the take no prisoner attitude of his adversaries.  Also, the climate was different--Republican ideology still reigned.  Clinton certainly was a kinder, gentler neo-liberal.

The cycle has swung back to our side.  Failure to use that will doom us.

I live in a true blue state--I will have a choice in November


[ Parent ]
"The Republicans" (0.00 / 0)
The key is "the Republicans" are no longer in lock-sync.  Obama makes it easy for Republicans to vote for Obama's policies while claiming some victory of making the bills "better".  Others, of course, will act like the quotes given above.  All Obama really needs is the token bipartisanship the Bush Dogs gave Bush.

We still don't know how all this will play out.  The dynamic will constantly change as the sides figure out how the other plays.


[ Parent ]
He hasn't disarmed excrement (this is a family blog) (4.00 / 6)
The Senate version of the stimulus package (you know--the one proposed by the majority) has $180b for stimulus and over 200b for tax cuts.  Now all of us know that tax cuts are meaningless in terms of economic growth.  So one has to ask, WTF?

Furthermore, his efforts at bi-partisanship has led to excessive whining by the minority about not being included in the planning process.  does anyone not remember that they did the same thing?  I watched the non-filibuster filibuster during the Ledbeter vote.  The minority delayed the vote for almost a week with toxic amendments.

Even though Obama told the Republican Congressional delegation that he won, he is sabotaging the stimulus package to get them on board and they are not going there.

Give it up, Barak, and rip their hearts out.

P.S.  I never knew that Booman drank koolaid.  Great post, Chris.

I take exception to the slur that we engage in liberal orthodoxy.  Heaven forbid a liberal tag.  We should take pride and ownership of being social democrats of the old European school (French, German, and British parties have lost their way, but maybe they will come home given the crises).

I live in a true blue state--I will have a choice in November


[ Parent ]
180+200=....825? (0.00 / 0)
not sure where that other 400+ billion ran off to.

[ Parent ]
What (4.00 / 1)
you've never lost track a few hundred billion dollars?  

[ Parent ]
If Obama hadn't caved on FISA (4.00 / 7)
I might not be so suspicious of his motives.  But he did, and there was absolutely no reason to do so save to placate the phone companies.  Then again, I left the Democratic Party over that whole episode.  So I read the comments linked here over at Booman  that talk about supporting Democrats, and I think:  Not support per se, but only if they move positively on a liberal agenda.

Also, there is widespread belief that Obama is a political Jedi Knight or some-such.  He's good, but FISA, again, showed that he's no Jedi.  Part of the disappointment  in that vote was because he said he wouldn't support telecom immunity, and he did.


Strange episode, the "Post" button canceled and the "Cancel" posted (0.00 / 0)
 on my Safari browser as I was editing that.  

[ Parent ]
What Jedi's dont make mistakes? (4.00 / 1)
Or they dont stage strategic retreats? Or did you miss the movie where they got wiped out?

I think you might be wrong young master, the force is is strong with That One.

Change
"We must break up the banks and never again let them get so big that they distort our politics and take down the economy.


[ Parent ]
but this is meaningless (4.00 / 1)
So, some Republicans complain about some things.  That is inevitable.  I think we need to see if the packages pass or not and then evaluate.


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

More than that (4.00 / 5)
What's in the packages matter. Less tax cuts and more infrastructure spending would be better.

And, you need to see who's spent how much political capital in the process. The trifecta (it's not all Obama) should be able to pass good legislation, execute it, and build political capital by, you know, actually fixing the problems.

However, they water-down their solution in the name of bi-partisanship, don't get any political cover from the GOP (surprise), still take all the hits they'd take, and have to expend political capital on cosmetic and counter-productive "inclusion," all of which results in a less impactful (and therefore less likely to solve problems) package.

The goal here is more than just passing laws. The trifecta can pretty much do that at will. The question is what laws get passed, under what auspices, and with what effect.

Me | My Work | Future Majority


[ Parent ]
I don't (4.00 / 3)
think Obama would do better to tell people 'I won' and get in line.  

Obama's approach isn't designed to work as a direct negotiating tool.  He has Rahm Emanuel for things like that.  His approach is to keep the Republicans weak and divided, to maintain control of the playing field through maintenance of high approval numbers (20% disapprove today), and use his army of supporters to lobby for the tough fights where the Republicans might actually maintain a completely unified Senate opposition.  

Yes, the Republicans are not total fools.  They will use any opening to make a partisan pitch for their preferred outcomes.  In some cases, Obama will give them more than they deserve as part of his overall effort to keep the Republicans from finding rallying points. But it is definitely premature to say that Obama's open hand is net weakness.  


Yes, because nonpartisan pitches are popular with the public (0.00 / 0)
One point of division here is whether the public likes non-partisan or bi-partisan rhetoric.

I believe that the public likes it when Obama strikes a non-partisan tone; the more he does this, the more his approval ratings go up, helping create genuine pressure on the GOP.


[ Parent ]
Here we are in Great Depression II (4.00 / 4)
There is consensus, even from many in the chattering classes,that an enormous stimulus package is necessary.  The Republican paradigm for economic growth failed.  People get that after 28 years--it failed.

Given that it failed and that the vast number of Americans get that point, why act like it is reasonable to throw the elected officials who got us into this mess a bone?

It seems to me that Obama painted himself into a corner with his non-partisanship rhetoric.  Now the self-appointed speakers of truth can nitpick every move of his to see if he is holding to his promise--and, of course, they define what it means to be non-partisan.  Seems to me that the Beltway know it alls define it as capitulation.

I live in a true blue state--I will have a choice in November


[ Parent ]
Well, bipartisan rhetoric (4.00 / 2)
is one thing, and advisable up to a certain point, provided he doesn't give away the rhetorical game--cede fundamental principles.

In any case, talking is one thing, doing is another.

It's merely aggravating that O says he wants to get 80 votes for his stimulus package. But actually crafting a plan with the goal of getting 80 votes--unacceptable.


[ Parent ]
Which public? (4.00 / 1)
Non-partisan may be popular in Iowa but is ure isn't in New Jersey.

[ Parent ]
Of course, I don't care what he says. (4.00 / 4)
He can appease Broder all he wants.  I want liberal policy.  FISA was a huge disappointment.  The Rubinites scare the hell out of me.  And Gates looks decent only when compared to Rumsfeld.

[ Parent ]
It seems that (4.00 / 9)
Booman--not posters here or other critics of Obama--is the obsessed with words. We're mostly concerned with his policies, which are dangerously cautious relative to what the country needs and wants.

His main mode of "disarming" opponents, after all, is not through rhetorical brilliance. His main mode of "disarming" opponents is by not opposing them. That is, he's been careful to make few enemies this side of Limbaugh, and his made method of accomplishing this is through substantive moves or non-moves. Wall-Street and other parts of Corporate America don't oppose him because of his neoliberal bent and his neoliberal advisors. The DC establishment doesn't oppose him because he packed his administration with members of the club and doesn't stray far from the center on any issue. The foreign policy establishment doesn't oppose him because he's increasing the occupation of Afghanistan and subscribes to the "War on Terror." Some leading Republicans don't oppose him because he picked Gates and Jones. Etc.

But that's temporary. When Obama starts making hard decisions, presuming he makes at least a few correct ones, these interests will come after him. That is, when he finally opposes them, they'll oppose him, regardless of what words he uses. It's naive to believe, as Booman seems to, that Big Money and other establishment forces could somehow be nullified by words.



The model (4.00 / 6)
The model for this group of Republicans has to be the scorched earth attack along the lines of the Clinton health care program of 1993 and 1994.  Republicans knew and clearly stated that a national health plan would show ordinary Americans the value of government and seal the deal for at least a generation.  Instead, a mere $150 million in ads (the Harry and Louise ads paid for by the insurance industry) and the complicity of the beltway boys in the M$M killed it and helped to install Republicans in control of the US House for 12 long years.

Playing ball didn't work.  Irreponsibility did.  This generation if it has any political savvy or memory is likely to go the scorched earth route.  Let's hope they die politically trying.


With malice toward none, with charity for all (4.00 / 5)
Unlike Chris, I don't know BooMan from next Thursday, but I couldn't disagree more with his criticism of OpenLeft, or the premise upon which that criticism is based.

Like President Obama, many of us -- Americans all -- are a union of opposites, and many of us have made the long journey of puzzlement and alienation to a arrive at a firm understanding of where our story fits into the story of America, and an even firmer conviction that it has a significance and validity beyond our own comfort. You can't tell this by looking at us, any more than you call tell where our new President stands merely by remarking that he's an African-American.

About those who would deny us our place in America -- the Sarah Palins and  Rick Warrens and their allies -- it can never be said that piety and forbearance are sufficient to disarm them, not at least in my experience. They've consistently claimed that it's their duty to make war on us. Whether they've done so out of conviction or cynicism hardly matters. Their challenge isn't one which can be ignored, nor can we defend against it by appealing to the better angels of their natures, not at least until they're utterly defeated and rendered powerless to decide who gets a seat at the table and who doesn't. If this is a negative frame, so be it. It's also an honest one, and we ignore it at our peril.

Obama may be able to charm the birds out of the trees, as his supporters keep insisting, but being who I am, I fear that he's likely to have more luck with the finches than the vultures. If BooMan doesn't think so, fine -- he's entitled to his opinion -- but I, for one, hope that it doesn't become the official opinion of OpenLeft, which, after all, does have certain principles to defend.


hey chris (0.00 / 0)
why don't you and booman use language to disarm each other?

DeFazio onMaddow slams Stimulus Sell Out (4.00 / 1)
rep defazio on maddow slamming summers and the stimulus bill. he said summers is big on tax cuts not infastructure and no one on high will listen to house progressive. china spent 600 bill on infastructure and this bill spends 1/15th that. defazio said we won-not the gop and vows tof ight. thank u rep defazio.

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