Stimulus Voting Open Thread

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 14:29


I have to run out to a 2:30 meeting, which unfortunately will coincide with the House vote on the DeFazio / Nadler amendment to increase funding for mass transit and rail in the stimulus. Debate on the amendment is taking place now, with the vote in a few minutes.

Earlier today, the first three amendments to the stimulus were all passed via voice vote. I expect the Nadler amendment to sail through as well.

This is an open thread to discuss the stimulus, the Nadler amendment, and all of today's voting in the House.

Chris Bowers :: Stimulus Voting Open Thread

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Nadler-Bowers passes on voice vote. (4.00 / 6)
Great work there! A smart, targeted amendment that correctly gauged bipartisan support for mass transit infrastructure investment.

Now, hands off, Senate!

And of course, next up is the Neugebauer amendment that would strike all appropriations from the bill, including the transit money just approved.


Welll.... (0.00 / 0)
LEts just assume that will fail.

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Peter King even was for this amendment (4.00 / 1)
on MSNBC and the Medicaid provisions (but will vote down the overall bill).

John McCain won't insure children

Semi-logical from King (4.00 / 2)
Long Island benefits from increased transit expenditures.  LIRR is a pretty shabby line, with constant delays throughout the Queens section.  Plus a big project has been Moynihan station and the passage between Grand Central and Penn that would let Long Islander commuters off on the East Side.  So this is actually a vote for his constituency on this one issue, although he's voting against them in the broader picture.

"Never be afraid to stand with the minority when the minority is right, for the minority which is right will one day be the majority." -William Jennings Bryan

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LIRR (0.00 / 0)
I used to take the Metro North pretty regularly in the 90s and the LIRR occassionally.  The LIRR was much better maintained and its workers were better paid.  It may have deteriorated since then.  The LIRR involved a train switch in Queens on the way out to Nassau.  The Nassau station looked better than the one huge Queens station so maybe you have a point.

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what is this Republican bill that they're babbling about (0.00 / 0)
"Even Obama's team says this would create twice as many jobs, at half the cost"

The C-Span caption just says it's more tax cuts. wtf?


Oh it's just spin (4.00 / 1)
just talking out their a$$.

It's probably has to do with assuming that direct spending creates no jobs and takes forever to spend out while tax cuts produce jobs and are spent out immediately. basically going against every economist (including conservative ones).  


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I swear (0.00 / 0)
Republican talking points are like chaff grenades for logical thinking. They're so incredibly inane, and the fact that a grown person actually takes them seriously makes me start thinking if I'm the one who's actually missing something. Like, "maybe there's something to this tax cut business since they keep talking about it so much...OH GOD SOUL CREATOR GET AHOLD OF YOURSELF"

Dear god.


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Hmmmm.... (4.00 / 1)
Well, in the very short term, tax cuts are better, because they are faster.  Over the next month or two, tax cuts would be almost infinitely better at creating jobs then infrastructure spending.  You know, before the infrastructure spending is actually spent.

Then infrastructure spending starts kicking in, kicking ass and taking names.

So sure, start with that obvious point and spin away!  It is still a lie.


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