Why State Spending Is CRUCIAL And Collins-Nelson Would CRIPPLE the Recovery

by: Paul Rosenberg

Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 16:11


Note: I'm greatly encouraged by the news that the Collins-Nelson betrayal may be cut off at the pass.  But just to make sure we all understand just how bad their proposal is, I'm posting this diary anyway.

To be effective a stimulus requires four things: (1) that it be quick, (2) that it be effective, (3) that it avoid counterproductive measures, (4) that it be sustained long enough for the economy to fully recovery before being phased out.  So far, the Blue Dogs have focused on making sure the stimulus will fail because of #4 (insisting on immediate reimplementation of PayGo). Now Collins-Nelson are going to war against #s 1-3.

(1) State spending is quick:  So quick that if Congress doesn't give them this money by President's Day, they'll start cutting it from the budgets they are working on now.

(2) State spending is effective: As shown in my diary, "Stimulus Reality: Spending Creates VASTLY More Jobs Than Tax Cuts", "General Aid to State Governments" produces 920,000 jobs per $100 billion in spending, compared to 200,000 jobs created by cutting corporate taxes by $100 billion.  

(3) Allowing state government spending to plummet is directly counter-productive to the intent of the stimulus package.  "Cuts in state and local government outlays are sure to be a substantial drag on the economy in 2009 and 2010," Moodys.com Chief Economist Mark Zandy wrote in his analysis, "The Economic Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act Mark Zandi - January 21, 2009" [PDF]. During the Great Depression, state public works spending plummeted so severely that it completely offset the increases in federal spending for the first three years of the New Deal (1933-35).  This was a major impediment to recovery.

Expanded, with charts & graphs on the flip.

Paul Rosenberg :: Why State Spending Is CRUCIAL And Collins-Nelson Would CRIPPLE the Recovery
It's ironic that the self-described "fiscally responsible" centrist "grownups" would be the authors of such an incredibly ill-informed, destructive attack on state governments and schoolchildren.  But, then, that's what bipartisans do: support Bush's war, give massive bailouts to Wall Street, ignore global warming and take money away from schools.

Here's an expanding explanation of how the Collins-Nelson's cuts severely damage the effort to create an effective stimulus, by undercutting the first three things a stimulus requires to be effective--(1) that it be quick, (2) that it be effective, and (3) that it avoid counterproductive measures:

(1) State spending is quick:  So quick that if Congress doesn't give them this money by President's Day, they'll start cutting it from the budgets they are working on now.  This need for quick action was explained to me in late December by Michael Bird, federal affairs counsel for the National Conference of State Legislatures. (NCSL).  Indeed, states have already cut their spending substantially and will do so much more aggressively if they don't get federal assistance quickly.  An article I wrote for Random Lengths concluded like this:

"During the 2001-2005 downturn, the cumulative gap [for all states] was $231 billion. This budget gap, for 2009-2010 is already nearing $200 billion," said NCSL federal affairs counsel Michael Bird.  He expects that gap to grow further as new figures are compiled in the next two months, producing a nearly equal gap in less than half the time compared to the first Bush downturn.

That earlier crunch was the worst ever, NCSL staff explained at the time, because state governments didn't have nearly as a large social spending budgets in the Great Depression as they did by 2001.  This time will be even worse, Bird explained.  

First, the financial collapse has undermined the capacity to sell bonds and borrow money, hurting states directly and indirectly. Here in California, the state's Pooled Money Investment Board, which manages state spending, voted Dec. 17 to halt construction outlays for six months-this in a state economy that's lost over 118,000 construction jobs in the last two years.

"The infrastructure work so vital to getting our economy back on track will be crippled," said California Treasurer Bill Lockyer.

A second difference from 2001 and earlier downturns is the collapse of property values, the tax base for a great deal of local government. "So the states are not in a position to help out the local governments," Bird explained.

State governments start work on their budgets this week, and many have deadlines from March through April, so rapid congressional action is essential for federal assistance to be assured in time.
"If you treat this situation the way you would a natural disaster--and I believe you should do that--then they [Congress] have shown that they can get things done."

"Timing is really one of the major elements," Bird said.  "This puppy has to be done by Washington's Birthday."

If states do not get the education assistance they need, the cuts will come in other areas as well.  As noted in the passage above, California already halted construction spending months ago, for example.

(2) State spending is effective: As shown in my diary, "Stimulus Reality: Spending Creates VASTLY More Jobs Than Tax Cuts", in the chart republished below, "General Aid to State Governments" produces 920,000 jobs per $100 billion in spending, compared to 200,000 jobs created by cutting corporate taxes by $100 billion.  

Even the most effective tax cuts, a payroll tax holiday, falls almost 70,000 jobs short of the bang-for-the-buck that aid to the states produces.  Education is the most significant single item in state budgets. I've got a call into Moodys to see if I can get a breakout for education by itself, but till then, the "general aid" figure provides a very reasonable ballpark figure.

In short, if Collins, Nelson and their silent partners really wanted to be responsible and effective, they'd go after the least effective tax cuts--those business, in particular, and leave state spending alone--either that, or increase it.

(3) Allowing state government spending to plummet is directly counter-productive to the intent of the stimulus package.  "Cuts in state and local government outlays are sure to be a substantial drag on the economy in 2009 and 2010," Moodys.com Chief Economist Mark Zandy wrote in his analysis, "The Economic Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act Mark Zandi - January 21, 2009" [PDF]. To show how severe the shortfall in state spending was, he included the following chart:

During the Great Depression, state public works spending plummeted so severely that it completely offset the increases in federal spending for the first three years of the New Deal (1933-35).  This was a major impediment to recovery.


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Isn't Saving Hundreds of Thousands (4.00 / 4)
of teacher's jobs, for example, the economic equivalent of creating the same number of new ones?  Not in the Republican mind.

One Would Think (4.00 / 6)
However, it's obvious that you're biased.  The fact that you made such an observation shows that you've had some sort of education.  Third grade, at least.  Thus you've been exposed to members of the teachers' union, and have been biased for life.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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But Amity Shlaes (4.00 / 5)
But Amity Shlaes doesn't count government jobs so those teachers don't count in the right circles.  Better in their mind to create 200,000 jobs through the wealthy than 920,000 jobs they don't want to count.


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revive the superconductor supercollider (0.00 / 0)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

the land is still there doing nothing.


Excellent post, Paul. (4.00 / 2)
We have to keep fighting the Vichy Dems.

I think Nelson backed down from these. (0.00 / 0)


right (0.00 / 0)
that was what i thought as well. But Paul worked hard on his little project so, it's okay.

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Backing Down Isn't Good Enough (4.00 / 3)
I want to see him prostate on the Senate floor, begging forgiveness for having anything to do with such a heinous proposal.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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um, that's a little much (0.00 / 0)


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I'm Open To Negotiation. (4.00 / 2)
On the location, at least.

I'm neither unreasonable, nor inflexible.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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So Freak'n Obvious (4.00 / 3)
During the transition I actually thought Obama should request that just the state spending portion of the stimulus be available on his first day.  The benefits are obvious, everyone comes from a state, so it should be popular, and the earlier the states know how much money is available the sooner they can get their budgets worked out.  I thought such a proposal would fly through the House and Senate with near unanimous voting, with only the exact dollar amount up for debate.

It never occurred to me this could possibly a target by anyone.  This is the single most obvious component of the entire bill, even more then road repair.

What.  Idiots.


Well (4.00 / 2)
these are the folks, don't forget, who responded to 9/11 by authorizing a war against bin Laden's arch enemy, and then accused dissenters of "hating America."

Rational thought is not exactly their forte.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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The first paragraph needs to be changed (0.00 / 0)
I just joined this site and have been reading some of the posts. I don't affiliate myself with either major party nor do I consider myself liberal or conservative. Democrats and republicans are one in the same. A politician is a politician above all else. Everyone in D.C., whether they have an R or a D in front of their name have so much more in common with each other than anyone posting on this blog. That is always at the front of my mind when I am pondering any pending legislation or listening to campaign rhetoric.

While I said above I do not consider myself liberal, where I stand on social issues would most definitely be considered quite liberal. However, I disagree with much of what has been written about the stimulus package, economy and suggestions to fix the problem on this blog. As well as the subsequent comments they have spawned. But disagreements are fun, and I have no malice in what I say, but the first paragraph was all I needed to read for this post.

"To be effective a stimulus requires four things: (1) that it be quick, (2) that it be effective, (3) that it avoid counterproductive measures, (4) that it be sustained long enough for the economy to fully recovery before being phased out.  So far, the Blue Dogs have focused on making sure the stimulus will fail because of #4 (insisting on immediate reimplementation of PayGo). Now Collins-Nelson are going to war against #s 1-3."

#1 - I agree with, the economy needs to be stimulating, quick. The quickest way to do this, and there is empirical, historical evidence to supports this, is cut taxes, put money in people's hands, slash short-term interest rates, and print money. The next step is for the Fed to start buying treasury bonds back, which will most likely happen soon.

#2 huh? to be effective, a stimulus plan must be effective? you only have 3 things, not four.

#3 avoiding counterproductive measures. I'm sure most will disagree with me on this, but infrastructure spending will do very little to stimulate the economy for at least 5 years. This is the counterproductive part of the plan.

Someone else, I think went by the name of Jane, posted a comment about creating a manufacturing base. There are so many things wrong with this notion. We are not a manufacturing based economy anymore, we are a service based economy now. Manufacturing is done elsewhere for much less cost. This is a good thing. I will just leave you with one question in regards to creating manufacturing jobs: What parent wants for their child to grow up and work in a factory?

I have linked a post from this site to an article I posted on my site, www.spinningmedium.com. The post is titled 'Are you Angry with Obama?' any feedback or comments are always welcomed.

-Thomas Bewick


Clarification (0.00 / 0)
(1) I wrote in a bit of a haste, but was still overtaken by events.  To be precise, I should have written that the elements included need to be effective.  In terms of broad categories, spending is effective, tax cuts are not.  While the initial wording could have been clearer, the point was perfectly clear from the argument that followed.

infrastructure spending will do very little to stimulate the economy for at least 5 years

(2) This is simply false. The whole point re shovel-ready projects is that spending can begin immediately.  So they begin stimulating the economy immediately.  IMHO, infrastructure spending could and should be tweaked to ensure more front-loading, but one of the main obstacles to this is general reluctance to ensure further funding in out years.  More spending could take place earlier if more projects were started, but not fully funded until later years.

(3) If you look at projected job growth, a lot of it comes in lower-income jobs.  Folks would be glad of a future in a modern factory instead.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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