Newt Speaks, Newt Lies. Sociopathic "Bipartisanship" Edition

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Feb 14, 2009 at 10:30


Newt:

From The Hill:

February 13, 2009
Gingrich: Obama Has Rekindled 'Red vs. Blue'
@ 10:29 am by Michael O'Brien

President Obama reignited the "red versus blue" partisan divide his campaign had sought to heal in less than a month, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) alleged Friday.

"President Obama has not yet reconciled his bipartisan rhetoric with his partisan policies," Gingrich said in an interview with The Daily Beast. "In a sense they are recreating the red vs. blue partisanship that we were all tired of. And they've managed to do it in less than a month."

Reality: Not So Much:

Looks like it's the Congressional GOP that's dividing the nation much more, and getting by far the smaller share.

But wait! that was all the way back on Feb. 6-7.  Perhap's Obama's done a nosedive in the polls since then?

No.  Again, not so much...

Paul Rosenberg :: Newt Speaks, Newt Lies. Sociopathic "Bipartisanship" Edition
Polling Report-- Obama's Job Approval:

Gallup Poll. Three-day rolling average. 
N=approx. 1,600 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack 
Obama is handling his job as president?"
 
                  Approve     Disapprove 	  	  	 
                      %            % 	  	  	 
2/10-12/09           66           21
2/9-11/09            64           21 
2/8-10/09            63           22 
2/7-9/09             63           23 
2/6-8/09             66           21 
2/5-7/09             64           22 
2/4-6/09             65           20 
2/3-5/09             63           21 
2/2-4/09             65           20 
2/1-3/09             65           20 
1/31-2/2/09          66           19 
1/30-2/1/09          66           19 
1/29-31/09           67           18 
1/28-30/09           67           17 
1/27-29/09           66           17 
1/26-28/09           64           17 
1/25-27/09           64           16 
1/24-26/09           65           15 
1/23-25/09           67           14 
1/22-24/09           69           13 
1/21-23/09           68           12

Obama's "disapproval" number increased 8 points in 11 days after his inauguration--hardly a surprise, as he moved from national ceremonial celebration to actual politics.  But since then?  Just one additional point of disapproval.  So, definitely not polarization people in hordes.

And, by way of comparison (Polling Report--Bush Job Approval)

The last time Gallup had Bush at or over 60%:

1/2-5/04         60        35

The last time Gallup had Bush at or over 66% (Obama's current approval):

5/19-21/03   66        30

The last time Gallup had Bush's net approval at or over 45% (Obama's current net approval):

7/29-31/02   71        23

So, no.  Not back to where we were just three weeks ago.  More like six-and-one-half years ago, well before Bush started the Iraq War, based on lies.

And, of course, Bush never had numbers anywhere close to that before 9/11.

But, of course, there's more to this Newt story, which comes from an interview reported at the Daily Beast:

The GOP's New Populists
by John Avlon

In an exclusive interview, Newt Gingrich talks about Republicans bashing business, Obama's rough start, Judd Gregg's departure, and his master plan for a GOP comeback.

Newt Gingrich is getting ready for his second act with a vengeance. Always the smartest man in the Republican Party (and never shy about admitting it), he led the GOP to its unprecedented Contract With America-driven congressional resurgence in 1994 and then yelled plays from the sidelines during the disastrous Tom DeLay-George W. Bush combination of this decade.

Now with the Republican Party in the wilderness under President Obama, Newt's ideas are again in demand. The party faithful want their spiritual leader back. And Newt's happy to comply, throwing punches whether the topic is Obama, big business, or Bush.

Throwing punches, all right.  And missing by a mile, same as it ever was.

But there's more:

When I question whether he governed so inclusively as Speaker of the House in the 1990s, he quickly counters. "When we passed welfare reform, we got exactly half the Democrats to vote with us, 101 to 101. When we passed the Balanced Budget Amendment, we got about half the Democrats to vote with us. When we passed the actual balanced budget itself, we had a majority of Democrats vote with us. If you go back and look, you'll see we consistently picked fights that were very popular with the American people and the American people convinced Democrats to vote with us."

Fights that were popular with the American people?  Oh, you mean, like shutting down the government?  Well, that was never going to be very popular:

When the previous fiscal year ended September 30, the president and the primarily Republican-controlled Congress hadn't passed a budget. Congress wanted additional cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, education, environmental controls, and the EITC, which Clinton thought were unnecessary to balance the budget.

As I've repeatedly pointed out, drawing on data from the General Social Survey, even a majority self-identified "extreme conservatives" don't favor these sorts of cuts.  

Of course, the GOP had a substantial propaganda advantage to try to over-ride that. But then Gingrich made sure to undermine that advantage:

Effect

During the shutdown, major portions of the federal government were inoperative. The Clinton administration later released figures detailing the costs of the shutdown, which included losses of up to $800 million in salaries paid to furloughed employees.[2] The first budget shutdown was resolved with the passage of a temporary spending bill, but the underlying disagreement between Gingrich and Clinton was not resolved, resulting in the second shutdown.

Result

The Republicans tried to blame Clinton for the shutdown, but Clinton got a break two days later when Gingrich made a widely-reported complaint about being snubbed by Clinton; Tom DeLay called it "the mistake of his [Gingrich's] life".[1]

Delay writes in his book, No Retreat, No Surrender:[3]

    "He told a room full of reporters that he forced the shutdown because Clinton had rudely made him and Bob Dole sit at the back of Air Force One...Newt had been careless to say such a thing, and now the whole moral tone of the shutdown had been lost. What had been a noble battle for fiscal sanity began to look like the tirade of a spoiled child..The revolution, I can tell you, was never the same."

Gingrich's complaint resulted in the perception that he was acting in a petty, egotistical manner, and Clinton defended the seating arrangement as a courtesy to Gingrich, the back of the plane being closer to his pickup car.[1] Later polling suggested that the event badly damaged Gingrich politically.[4]

And as for the underlying, implicit claim that he was acting in a bipartisan manner and spirit?  Well, again, not so much.

Remember?  There was this:

REMARK PUTS GINGRICH ON HOT SEAT;
The Associated Press. St. Louis Post - Dispatch St. Louis, Mo.: Nov 8, 1994. pg. 13.A

Rep. Newt Gingrich came under fire Monday for using the South Carolina child-murder case to urge voters to back Republican candidates....

In an interview Saturday with The Associated Press, Gingrich was asked how the campaign was going in the final week.

"Slightly more moving our way," he replied. "I think that the mother killing the two children in South Carolina vividly reminds every American how sick the society is getting and how much we need to change things. . . .

"How a mother can kill her two children, 14 months and 3 years, in hopes that her boyfriend would like her, is just a sign of how sick the system is, and I think people want to change. The only way you get change is to vote Republican. That's the message for the last three days.

And this:

Gingrich revises history in partisan attack
KENNETH J. COOPER. Houston Chronicle Houston, Tex.: Mar 8, 1995. pg. 9

Monday, Gingrich condemned liberal Democrats for "the monstrosity they have created, their public housing projects that are death traps for the poor, their public schools that are illiteracy traps for the poor."

But neither public education nor public housing were the legislative products solely of Democrats, as Gingrich partially acknowledged Tuesday when reporters pressed him to explain his remarks. But he insisted the blame for failures in both systems belongs to Democrats.

The nation's oldest public school, Boston Latin School, was established in 1635 -- long before either of today's major political parties was formed. It was Whigs who pushed universal public education in Northern states before the Civil War, and Republicans who opened schools throughout the South afterward.

"The public schools don't belong to one party or another," said Arthur Levine, president of Teachers College, Columbia University. "It's foolish. One would expect more of a former college professor."

Tuesday, Gingrich revised his remark to blame Democrats for ""the modern, unionized, big city school system with work rules that make no sense, with very big bureaucracies, with a tremendous amount of money wasted and with buildings that don't function.''

Amd this:

Gingrich blames welfare for woman's death: Speaker's remarks on people who killed pregnant woman enrage Democrats
McCollum, M.J.. Philadelphia Tribune. Philadelphia, Pa.: Nov 24, 1995. Vol. 112, Iss. 94; pg. 1-A

By M.J. McCollum
Tribune Staff

House Speaker Newt Gingrich blamed welfare for the murder of a pregnant Illinois women and her two children.

Gingrich said the killing of 28-year-old Debra Evans, 10-year-old Samantha and 8-year-old Joshua was "the final culmination of a drug-addicted underclass with no sense of humanity, no sense of civilization and no sense of the rules of life, in which human beings respect each other."

A woman and two men are accused of killing Evans to get to her unborn baby. The suspects allegedly killed Evans, then used scissors to cut out the baby who was due the next day.

It has not been revealed whether or not any of the assailants are welfare recipients. They have no prior convictions or drug violations.
Gingrich also blamed the criminal justice system and the education system for the murders.

Amd This:

Gingrich under fire for murder claim Speaker uses horrific killing to attack welfare state

MARTIN WALKER IN WASHINGTON. The Guardian Manchester (UK): Nov 23, 1995. pg. 014

AN INTER-RACIAL murder, in which a pregnant woman was murdered so that the father could steal the child from her womb, triggered a political row yesterday as Democrats denounced a claim by the Republican House speaker, Newt Gingrich, that the killing was the fault of the liberal welfare state.

The slaughter in Chicago last Friday of Deborah Evans, aged 28, and two of her children, has stunned an America which had thought itself beyond shock at crimes of sexual violence. Mr Gingrich's use of the case to draw a political moral has made it a national issue.

"The speaker is out of control," said David Eichenbaum for the Democratic National Committee.

"Last week he shut down the government because he got a bad seat on Air Force One. This week he blames his political opponents for a most brutal murder that has revolted the whole of America. Where does it end?"

Deborah Evans was a white welfare mother, with two white children of 10 and 8, and all three were found stabbed to death. Her former lover, Laverne Ward, a black man and father of her 19-month-old child and father of the child in her womb, has been arrested and charged with her murder. He is further charged with then cutting open her uterus with a pair of household scissors, and taking away the baby to give it to his cousin, who had tried and failed to have a baby.

"Let's talk about the moral decay of the world the left is defending. Let's talk about what the welfare state has created," Mr Gingrich told a conference of Republican governors. "We end up with the final culmination of a drug-addicted underclass with no sense of humanity, no sense of civilisation."

Deborah Evans was on welfare, but there is no evidence that drugs were involved in the crime, Illinois police said. That did not stop Mr Gingrich before, when he last year blamed "liberal values" in the case of Susan Smith, who drowned her two children in her car so that she could go off untrammelled with a new lover. At the trial, she blamed her behaviour on sexual abuse by her father, a prominent member of his local Republican Party.

Already criticised for damaging the Republican case in the budget battle with the White House by complaining of being snubbed on the presidential plane, the accident-prone Mr Gingrich was sticking to his combative guns yesterday, insisting that the case was a parable of the social decay caused by the welfare state.

"What's going wrong is a welfare system which subsidised people for doing nothing; a criminal system which tolerated drug dealers; an educational system which allows kids to not learn and which rewards tenured teachers who can't teach, while destroying poor children who it traps in a process with no hope," Mr Gingrich said.

"This happened in America. It happened because for two generations we haven't had the guts to talk about right and wrong. We've talked about situation ethics. We've talked about victimisation. We've talked about our needs. We've had soap-opera-like television shows where people get on and describe the most disgusting behaviour."

That's bipartisanship?  A standard that Obama has failed to live up to?

Right!

The man is a sociopath, pure and simple.  And he's been a leader in the Republican Party for over 15 years now.  They have become a party of sociopaths.  Just look at Gingrich's fantasy revealed in these quotes about liberalism destroying America, and then look at what the GOP has just done these past three weeks, trying to obstruct a desperately needed financial stimulus package, because if the Democrats succeed in saving the country, they know that there goose will be cooked.  They are the ones intent on destroying America, and they project all their destructiveness on to their political opponents.  In short, they are no longer a political party in any sort of normal sense.  They have become a delusional political cult.

And who is this writer who reports on Gingrich as if he were a sane and sober political figure?

Well....

John P. Avlon is the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics. Avlon also served as director of speechwriting and deputy director of policy for Rudolph  Giuliani's presidential campaign. Previously, he was a columnist for the New York Sun and served as chief speechwriter and deputy communications director for then-Mayor Giuliani.

Oh, right!  Because Rudi Guiliani is such a sane and sober centrist!


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Gingrich wishes he were Rush Limbaugh (4.00 / 7)
But he's not. Failing that he wishes he were Ann Coulter. But he's not. Failing that he wishes he were Nero. Nero's dead.

There's the saying, "By their fruits ye shall know them." Newt's fruits and others of his friends have nearly destroyed this society's democracy. They are angry, I think, because they were prevented from finishing the job by a majority of marginally sane people still living in this country.

The best thing Obama can do is to keep Newt true to his proclamations and declare the bipartisanship parade over. The sooner, the better.


One more thing (4.00 / 3)
And once the bipartisan party is over, we'll have a very good idea of what to expect from President Obama in the coming years. Will he do his best to keep his promises to the people who elected him, or will he do a Lieberman? I'm hoping he will keep his promises -- on Social Security and healthcare for example:

Q: How should we fix Social Security and other entitlement programs?

OBAMA: If we get our tax policies right so that they're good for the middle class, if we reverse the policies of the last eight years that got us into this fix in the first place and that Sen. McCain supported, then we are going to be in a position to deal with Social Security and deal with Medicare, because we will have a health care plan that actually works for you, reduces spending and costs over the long term, and Social Security that is stable and solvent for all Americans and not just some.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Eco...

"If we kept the payroll tax rate exactly the same but applied it to all earnings and not just the first $97,000," Obama wrote this week in an Iowa newspaper, "we could eliminate the entire Social Security shortfall."

http://abcnews.go.com/politics...


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That's the man I voted for. (4.00 / 2)
Let's hope he's the one who shows up.

Montani semper liberi

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While of course (4.00 / 1)
Gingrich deserves no end of abuse for his crimes against polity, I think it's worthwhile to see what he's trying to do here, and it's potential for success.

He -- like most of the GOP -- knows how to play the game of politics. Gingrich is not going to be impressed by the current polling numbers on Obama's leadership. He's playing for tomorrow's numbers. He knows that Obama has, through his chief of staff, essentially signaled the end of anything that could represent authentic "bipartisanship". He knows that Obama chose to define himself in speech after speech as a figure who might bring that about, and heal the rift between red states and blue states. He is now driving home the point that Obama has now turned his back on that supposedly basic, even essential, attribute. He will portray Obama as a kind of fraud.

Basically, it was simply in the cards that the Republicans would make this move if Obama spurned bipartisanship. They will do what damage they can -- and I expect that over time it will be considerable.

While none of this has sunk in with the general public so far, Gingrich sees his job as being to make it sink in. Expect more of same from other Republicans now that Obama has changed his mind about bipartisanship.

There was always a price to be paid for laying claim to bipartisanship when it was, in fact, a highly counterproductive strategy. Either Obama sticks with it, and gets lousy policy, or he rejects it, and looks like a flip flopper.


Just to expand a little bit (4.00 / 3)
on my own views about Obama's decision to reject bipartisanship, I do think it was the right thing for him to do, and, now, very early on, was the right time for him to do so. Better to get this issue behind him as early as possible and to try to redefine himself as quickly as he can.

But I think it is only wishful thinking to believe he won't be made to suffer for it by the Republicans. It is, in fact, a major flip flop, and punishment will be exacted.


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And just to say a little more (0.00 / 0)
about what Gingrich and the Republicans are doing here, it does seem to me that this move represents a characteristic difference between Republicans and Democrats.

In a word, Republicans tend to be proactive in their politics, and Democrats reactive. Gingrich knows where he wants to drive the message, and he ignores the current polling because he knows how he can push public opinion in another direction. The Republicans have enjoyed a track record of great success in executing this strategy over the decades.

Democrats, instead, almost always seem to be behind the curve, reacting to current events and criticisms and polling, rather than anticipating political sentiment and driving it.


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rejection (4.00 / 2)
I don't disagree with you about what Gingrich is trying to do, but let's not say Obama has abandoned bipartisanship; after all, he made a good faith effort and the Republicans swatted it away.

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The Republicans will (4.00 / 3)
try to make him suffer -- but will they succeed?

It seems to me if Obama abandons bipartisanship, and instead does the job he was sent to Washington to do -- making life better for regular people, the Republicans haven't got a prayer.

In fact I think this is more of a "please don't throw me in the briar patch" approach by Newt. If he successfully goads Obama into giving bipartisanship another chance (and another, and another), then the Republican lite policies that result will guarantee failure, and open up a shot for them to win in 2010 and 2012.

Montani semper liberi


[ Parent ]
Someone expressed dismay in another thread that Obama took (4.00 / 2)
the time for public salesmanship on the stimulus issue- that he was governing like a perpetual campaign, etc. But those numbers quite obviously MEAN something with 2010 around the corner. How is it ever bad to deftly present the case for our policies and party to the American public? What, by any stretch, is the drawback there?  

Could someone please explain how opposing the stimulus was (4.00 / 3)
good for the GOP in 2010?  I still don't get, though lord knows plenty of MSM reporters have tried to convince me it is.

The Politics of Bruno S.


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If the economy sucks in 2010 (4.00 / 3)
The Republicans will claim that Obama and the Democrats screwed the pooch and will evade as much as possible the central truths: it was Bush's tax cuts, Bush' wars, Bush's deregulation frenzy, and Bush's spending frenzy that put America in this situation and the Republicans with a narrow majority and a fraudulently "elected" President cheered him on and forced it through.  No Republican President since Lincoln got as much through as Bush and W ain't no Lincoln.

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I understand their position (0.00 / 0)
I just don't see why they actually think it will work.

The Politics of Bruno S.


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The depression before the Depression (4.00 / 2)
What percentage of the American people are sociopaths? Confirmed and unrepentant sociopaths, Newt Gingrich-style sociopaths? Now there's a question to warm the cockles of your heart.

I swear, if you look at road rage, the commentary on any kind of blog, from technofreak to political, or the sum total of television, you have to wonder. It's enough to make you consider retiring to a mountain cave, and only venturing out when the begging bowl is empty. Just today, after wincing my way through your gems, Paul, I went and read an op-ed in the NYT by Congressman Ryan of Wisconsin, quoting Milton Friedman and claiming that Obama's terrible and dangerous stimulus plan will result in stagflation thirty years from now. Following that, I checked out a piece in The Economist about Governor Sanford's steadfast refusal to let South Carolina accept any of the stimulus money. On principle, say the editors.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Who figured that we'd get both the bang and the whimper simultaneously? How about, given that it's Saturday and all, you tell a few jokes -- nice take-my-wife jokes, you understand -- nothing that I have to don sackcloth and ashes to listen to. (No Soviet jokes, no shtetl jokes with Cossacks in them, etc.) Better yet, how 'bout some dancing girls? And somebody make me one of those drinks that come in a coconut or pineapple with one of those paper umbrellas in it....


Newt is a cold hearted, sick jerk (4.00 / 4)
whose insatiable ego is sociopathic.

Newt, the man who condemned Bill Clinton's blowjob while having an affair.  Newt the man who trashed Clinton for years for his personal life, while he himself asked wife #2 for a divorce while she was being treated for cancer in a hospital.

What kind of a sick, selfish jerk is Newt? The worst kind. He,Hot Tub Delay, hypocrite Boehner to me are the faces of the right wing.  Phony, sick, perverted white guys whose goal in life is money, power and the need to be in control of everything; women, the poor, minorities.  They are low life overseers who have nothing going for them but what they get with control and power over others..they are bullies.

While W, Cheney, Rove are the jerky phony fools who in the 60s hated the long haired guys, resented that they had beautiful women with them while the frat boys had to get girls drunk to get even a date, Newt, Delay and Boehner remind me of the types that would spike women's drinks with Spanish Fly....use them, leave them and call them sluts the next day.

The depth of my derision of those sanctimonious, hypocritical jerks is infinite.  And it gauls me that any of these creeps even get to have a voice in anything. SICK.


[ Parent ]
Judging from Bush's support (4.00 / 1)
I'd say about 20%.

Montani semper liberi

[ Parent ]
Them's Rightwing Authoritarians, Not Sociopaths (4.00 / 2)
The vast majority of those folks aren't sociopaths, but they're perfect marks for sociopaths to take advantage of.

Robert Altemeyer goes into some detail about this at several different points in his books.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I know, (4.00 / 2)
but I couldn't resist a perfect set up.

Montani semper liberi

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And Who Am I To Complain About That? (4.00 / 3)
kovie?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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The Number Of Sociopaths Is About 1% (4.00 / 1)
But episodic sociopathic behavior is obviously more widespread.

The difference is that the sociopath has no conscience.  Sociopathic behavior reflects a state of consciousness in which a person acts as if they have no conscience.  But it's only a temporary state.  Later they will feel remorseful, guilty and/or ashamed.

The true sociopath never will.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I'm not sure it's that simple. I've been told and read that sociopaths do claim to feel guilt; (0.00 / 0)
it just doesn't motivate them to change their compulsive behavior. Jeffrey Dahmer claimed to feel guilt. I've personally dealt with a sociopath who claimed to feel guilt. Not to highjack the thread- I'm inevitably off on my little INFP tangents- but it's worth acknowledging that the pathology is in fact incredibly complex.

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Four Points (4.00 / 1)
(1) Sociopaths will say anything that suits them in the moment.  So, just because they say they feel guilt really proves nothing.

(2) Sociopaths have a severely deficient experience of normal feelings.  So, it's quite conceivable for a sociopath to think they feel what a normal person experiences as guilt, and yet feel only a shadow of the feeling we know as quilt.

(3) Sociopathy is difficult to diagnose, much less study statistically.  It's quite likely that there is a larger number of "near sociopaths" who can feel some degree of guilt or remorse, that have some sense of conscience, but who find it relatively easy to ignore--or, more properly, find it hard to focus on.  Being in prison could make it more easy to focus on, and then notice, "Oh, hey!  Yeah, I do feel guilty, after all!"

(4) Sociopaths and serial killers are not the same thing.  Most sociopaths are not killers, and some serial killers are not sociopaths.  Obviously, they're not inhibited from killing, but they could still have a conscience, just one that's seriously twisted, or simply over-ridden by intense pathological needs or desires.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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divorce (4.00 / 7)
I wonder if Gingrich is going to wait until the Republican party is on its deathbed to ask it for a divorce.

All those blasts from the past... (4.00 / 1)
just reminded me that Arianna Huffington spent that period of time joined at the hip with Gingrich.

Oh well.


Yes, Indeedy (0.00 / 0)
She blended in so well with the GOP freakshow at the time, it's truly amazing how few of them broke out, and she was certainly the most high profile of those that did.  Aside from her, there was Michael Lind and David Brock, and well, Markos, I guess.  But he was no big cheese back then.  

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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And frankly I still (4.00 / 2)
don't trust Arianna.......

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