More CrAP from the AP--With Some Deeper Insight

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Feb 14, 2009 at 17:02


Earlier this week, over at DKos, Jed L called attention to another outrageous example of AP promoting rightwing propaganda. Rather than focusing too narrowly on it--especially since Jed pretty much hammered AP for its role, I'd like to use it as an occasion to step back and comment on bigger picture involved, the nature of liberalism, conservatism, and the role of conceptual games.  First, though, here's how Jed started off:

AP Attempts A Fact Check  
by Jed L
Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 02:35:04 PM PST

The AP accuses President Obama of lying during yesterday's events:

    President Barack Obama had it both ways when he promoted his stimulus plan in Indiana and later at a prime-time news conference. He bragged in Indiana about getting Congress to produce a package with no pork, yet boasted it will do good things for a Hoosier highway and a downtown overpass, just the kind of local projects lawmakers lard into big spending bills.

To be precise, what President Obama said was that this plan has no earmarks -- local spending projects inserted by members of Congress without review, things like millions for a goat herding museum in Alabama, or a moose-hunting education exhibit in Wasilla.

And as the AP notes further down in its story, President Obama told the truth about this.

("There are no 'earmarks,' as they are usually defined, inserted by lawmakers in the bill," the AP wrote.)

Paul Rosenberg :: More CrAP from the AP--With Some Deeper Insight
Jed continues to quote AP, and then point out that what AP's complaining about is basically just normal government spending, with some reference to local construction projects as part of the mix.

First, if those are the most egregious examples of spending abuses the AP could identify, then this may be the cleanest spending bill in the history of the United States of America. The president has said a main goal of this legislation is to invest in our infrastructure and make a down payment on alternative energy technologies, and that's exactly what the projects listed by AP are intended to do.

Second, the AP's whining about Obama using local highway projects as examples of the kinds of benefits the bill could achieve is absurd. What in the world is wrong with the President localizing the benefits of his most important legislative initiative? They seem to be getting all outraged about him talking about some potential benefit of the bill in terms that they think sound like some other pork barrel projects of the past. It's just really weird.

I've got no problem with the AP calling the President a liar. What I do have a problem with is calling him a liar when their claim has no basis in fact.

Jed's point is pretty much an open-and-shut case.  But there's something deeper and much more insidious going on here.  Basically, conservatives are denying the very notion of the common good.  Since any government spending in this sort of bill comes from the general revenue, but gets spent for a particular purpose, they are, essentially, arguing that ala libertarian extremists that it's a "statist theft" of private property.  Any government spending whatsoever is fundamentally illegitimate according to such views.

Which is why, in their view, there's no essential difference between the Stevens/Palin bridge to nowhere and the New Orleans levees that Bush declined to build in time to save New Orleans.

Of course, the sane portion of the human race realizes that government spending long predated the emergence of modern-day liberalism, dating back at least to ancient Egypt, Babylon, Sumeria and the like, and without it, we'd still be stuck at the hunter-gatherer and horticultural stages of development, with agriculture as a form of science fiction.  But knowing or thinking about that would require a knowledge of history, and libertarians don't believe in history.  It's just a statist scam, don'tcha know!

I've written many times before about Kegan's levels of cognitive development, in which each stage takes as content/object the background context/subject of the stage before it, and how conservatism is a natural fit for level three, while liberlism is a fit for level 4:

Kegan's Subject/Object Schema of Cognitive Development
StageWe Are:
Subject
(structure of knowing)
We Have:
Object
(content of knowing)
Underlying Structure
1Perceptions

SOCIAL PERCEPTIONS

Impulses
Movement


Sensation
2Concrete

POINT OF VIEW

Enduring Dispositions
Perceptions

SOCIAL PERCEPTIONS

Impulses
3
Traditionalism
Abstractions

MUTUALITY/
INTERPERSONALISM
Relationship


Inner states
Concrete

POINT OF VIEW

Enduring Dispositions
Needs, Peferences
4
Modernism
Abstract Systems

INSTITUTION
Relationship-Regulating Forms

Self-authorship
Abstractions

MUTUALITY/
INTERPERSONALISM
Relationship

Inner states
Subjectivity
Self-consciousness
5
Post-
Modernism
Dialectical

INTER-
INSTITUTIONAL

Self-transformation
Abstract Systems
Ideology

INSTITUTION
Relationship-Regulating Forms

Self-authorship
Self-regulation
Self-formation

This means that conservative thought takes the individual as object within a framework of existing social relations, while liberalism takes society's social relations as object, within a framework of it's own autonomous judgment and conception.  Or at least, that's how things stood when the two political traditions first emerged clearly in the late 18th Century.  But conservatism was fundamentally ill-prepared to deal with the quickening pace of social change, and thus many conservatives clung to past frameworks of social relations--often, even, ones that were partially or wholly made up--while also revolting against the actually existing social relations.

Thus we are left with a mindset that is (1) intellectually incapable of clearly conceiving of how a whole society works, instead falling back on thinking of individuals disconnected from one another, except in terms of personal relationships, and (2) conceives of those relationships in terms of an imaginary past model of what such relationships should be.  This is the tacit background behind both economic and social/religious conservative ideas.  In the later case, it gives rise to such clearly anachronistic notions as making women obedient and subservient to men--first their fathers, then their husbands.  In the former case, it supports all manner of conservative economic myths, such as trickle-down economics, rationalized by such pithy phrases as "I never saw anyone get a job from a poor man."

Of course, nowadays--and for several generations now--lots of jobs come from companies that could not survive without credit, which plays a much more significant role in their finances than the wealth of owners, if indeed such wealth has anything at all to do with the day-to-day finances of the company.

From a level 4 POV, it's quite easy to see that jobs come from the effective demand of customers--the fact that there are people out there wanting to buy something, and that even someone who is deeply in debt can keep their business going as long as (a) there are plenty of good-paying customers, and (b) he can roll over his debt in the short-term as he works toward paying it off (or at least down) in the long run.  A level 4 consciousness readily grasps the interconnected nature of a modern economy, whereas a level 3 consciousness sees only a collection of businesses, which it only understands one at a time.

Because of this, the level 3 consciousness never really grasps how public spending flows through the initial recipients and into the larger economy.  Or more properly, they can grasp this exotic (for them) idea, but only if it doesn't conflict with some more fundamental notion that's truly at home in their system of understanding.

And that's the whole purpose of the GOP propaganda barrage, to create conflict between an idea that's difficult for level 3 conscious to grasp and others that are easy to grasp--even if they are utterly misleading at best, or downright false at worst.

This is the logic by which people come to believe that tax cuts are more stimulative than public spending, even though economists across the political spectrum all agree that the opposite is the case.  The can readily envision tax cuts coming directly to them, benefiting them directly, whether they spend them or not.  (Even though economists know that it's the spending that benefits the economy as a whole.)  And if it benefits them--so they reason--then it must benefit the economy.  OTOH, who knows (so they think) whether they'll see any money as a result of public spending.  Thus, they assume, "if it doesn't clearly benefit me, then it won't benefit the economy."

This is not necessarily selfish thinking.  But it is narrowly individualistic thinking that's limited by the level 3 perspective that has difficulty grasping how people actually are connected in a modern economy.  It cannot really grasp, for example, that it's not the money coming from the government that benefits the economy so much as the circulation of that money that's important.


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interesting argument (4.00 / 1)
I suppose you can say the same thing about the reporter's conflation of a local highway project with inefficient pork or "lard": the idea that when a congressman lobbies for spending in his/her district, that spending is incompatible with the public good.  Or when the media said "this isn't stimulus; it's Democratic social spending".  As if the two are mutually exclusive.

The one exception to this rule being: military spending.  As in, "FDR's didn't spend us out of the depression- only WWII did!"  For whatever reason, the idea that spending billions on tanks could stimulate the economy makes perfect sense to them.  So much so that it isn't even considered "spending".


WWII did get us out of the Depression (0.00 / 0)
but not via spending per se; standards of living actually declined during the war as people did without and did with less.

It was the fact that the war destroyed America's industrial competitors. This allowed the post-war abundance that "we" foolishly took as normal. As Japan and Germany came back online we started to supplant our income with borrowing; a strategy we seem hell bent on pursuing to failure.

What we need now is for people to do without and do with less not to win wars, but to avoid them. 7+ billion people who need the dwindling resource of oil to grow and transport their food is not a recipe for peace.


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I'm Afraid Not (4.00 / 3)
standards of living actually declined during the war as people did without and did with less.

Compared to the Depression?  Interesting that none of my relatives who lived through the Depression and WWII told me that version of events.  Also given that what's generally meant by saying that it ended the Depression is that it put everyone back to work.

Sure wages were held down by law.  But everyone and their aunt was finally getting wages. And that's why there was an explosion of fringe benefits, including health care (ala Kaiser Permanente) which substantially increased people's welfare, even if there wasn't much to spend cash on.  But more fundamentally, given that tens of millions went from being either unemployed, underemployed or not even in the workforce (hello, Rosie the Riveter!) to working in factories there was most definitely an increase in living standards generally.  Now, it's true that the upper-middle class and above suffered, relative to their lives before from lack of consumer goods.  But their ranks were so thin by that point, that it's simply absurd to take them as indicative of the general populace.

You are so obsessed with your idee fixe that you distort all of economic history to fit into your narrow little narrative.  In your own way, you're just as annoying as a gold bug.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
16 million in uniform (4.00 / 1)
One other thing, Paul.  At its peak, 16 million Americans were in uniform during World War II with a population of 120 million.  No wonder unemployment was at 1% despite hiring lots of non-traditional labor (that was not just Rosie the Riveter but a huge number of underused southern black agricultural laborers in northern factories).

The economy got stronger and actually expanded outside the box.  Some of the same things happened during our other great conflict, the Civil War.  Northerners were shocked that far from hurting the economy actually expanded.  The notion of 5% unemployment being full employment is poppycock.  The economy is a lot more elastic and can produce a lot more goods than economists commonly think.  I remember in the 60s when the real economy outfoxed the economists and produced more than they said was possible.

During those times of rapid growth, labor benefits because the old games of pitting worker against worker are turned off by actual worker demand.  Yippee.


[ Parent ]
Very True (4.00 / 1)
Either spending can stimulate or it can't - WWII actually helps the Keynesian case.

One of the most powerful thing in politics is whether one's spending priorities are counted as spending.  It's not just defense - another good example is criminal enforcement / jails (especially for the War on Drugs.)

A similar thing is involved in whether government actions are treated as natural or not.  

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[ Parent ]
right. war = natural (at least for conservatives) (4.00 / 2)
likewise police and prison functions.  'the era of big government is over' never applied to the DOD budget.


[ Parent ]
a counterargument (0.00 / 0)
on the other hand, for all their failure to conceptualize the multiplier behind fiscal policy (i.e. that one person's employment benefits all), conservatives DO seem to understand the multiplier concept when it relates to monetary policy.  that is, at least insofar as the arguments for monetary policy came out of a conservative intellectual climate.  and yet, monetary and fiscal policy are always seen as fundamentally dissimilar - at least from the conservative perspective.  but the underlying theory is the same.


Your Average Conservative Has No Idea That Monetary Policy Exists (4.00 / 2)
There are a large range of things that average voters don't even think about.  And if they do think about them it's no deeper than "Bush says X, so I'm for X."  Or Newt. Or whoever.  It's strictly authoritarian followership.  And we've seen it with Obama as well, alas.  though not nearly as bad.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
fair enough (0.00 / 0)
i suppose i was referring more to the 'conservative mind' in general.  that is, conservative intellectuals who reject government intervention in the form of fiscal policy, yet find monetary policy inoffensive - indeed, beneficial - even though the underlying principle of the two (the Keynesian multiplier) is essentially the same.


[ Parent ]
Right (4.00 / 1)
In that case, it's more along the lines of being an idea that's acceptable because of lack of conflict with a more fundamental one.  But I can give you an even more fundamental example of this: the idea of the market itself.  It's an example of circular causality, which I've explained elsewhere is generally associated with level 4.  Conservative generally only think in terms of one cause/one effect and in one direction.  But the circular causality of the market is encapsulated in the imagery of the "invisible hand" and doesn't conflict with anything more fundamental, so it gets a pass.

This is not true, however, in some other countries and cultures, particularly those that are more agriculturally or militarily based.  In those cultures, market values definitely do conflict with other, more fundamental perceptions, and for those kinds of conservatives, the market is either rejected, or else significantly subordinated to other concerns.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Conservative Intellectual Climate (0.00 / 0)
Just a coupla points:
1) I have great difficulty thinking of the term "Conservative Intellectual" as anything other than oxymoronic. The only intellectual component seems to be "how can I get more for me". Which leads me to:
2) I don't see any problem with viewing this as selfish thinking. This third level you talk about seems to me to BE selfish thinking. If it isn't something tangible for ME and MINE, it is pork, plain and simple. Seems to pretty much sum up libertarianism, as well, IMHO.

Allow Me To Clarify (0.00 / 0)
(1) I didn't say anything about conservative intellectuals.  Conservative intellectuals are as rare as hen's teeth.  But conservatives do value ideas as weapons, which is something else altogether.

(2) It's not selfish thinking, because the same limitations apply to altruistic ideas as well.  It's about a limited perspective at a level more fundamental than the content of that perspective.  There's been a great deal of anthropological research over the past 100 years, revealimg a wide range of cultural practices. Among tribal cultures, for example, some expect much more conflictual relationships, which tend to justify more selfish behavior, while others have much more cooperative expecatations, which tend to justify more altruistic behavior, but the expectations of both are framed against the background of their own social structures, and are equally unlikely to question that background.  It's just the way things are.

The dividing line between levels 3 and 4 constitutes an independent axis, as it were.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


[ Parent ]
Right. I've heard commentary locally which seems to (4.00 / 1)
suggest a Level 3 grasp of how other people's businesses ought to function. The operative assumption is always that businesses are somehow autonomous. I've certainly heard it spoken of in the spirit of generosity; there's just a failure to grasp, well, complexity. Sod on the mall is sod on the mall, and how could it function beyond itself?  

[ Parent ]
Earmarks (0.00 / 0)
The standard definition of "earmarks" comes from the Congressional Research Service:

"Provisions associated with legislation (appropriations or general legislation) that specify certain congressional spending priorities or in revenue bills that apply to a very limited number of individuals or entities. Earmarks may appear in either the legislative text or report language (committee reports accompanying reported bills and joint explanatory statement accompanying a conference report)."

The definition of "earmarks" is a question of specificity of language in a bill or committee report. The standard structural objection to earmarks is that the legislative branch assumes powers more properly reserved for the executive, by denying all executive discretion about how to spend part of an appropriation.

But Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution doesn't really limit the specificity of appropriations:

No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law; and a regular statement and account of receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time.

So in spite of many objections by the executive branch, earmarks remain an integral part of almost every appropriations bill, and there isn't any particular reason to believe that a superior outcome could be produced by allowing the executive branch total discretion about how to spend appropriations.

The political value of earmarks resides in giving the local Congressperson an opportunity to say "Look what I brought to Indiana," and that's exactly what Barack Obama was doing instead when he celebrated the overpass that will soon embellish some beautiful Hoosier metropolis.

But there is absolutely no legal or historical basis for the notion that "earmark" is a term of abuse specifically reserved for useless extravangances.  


Further concentration of executive power (0.00 / 0)
It's also worth noting that when Obama inveighs against earmarks, he's actually advocating a further concentration of executive power, and a further increase in the power of the Presidency, by restricting all discretion about how appropriations are spent to the executive branch.


[ Parent ]
OK, this is too much for a Saturday Night (0.00 / 0)
I'm going to have to sit down tomorrow after 3 cups of coffee and figure out exactly what in the Hell Paul is talking about other than Conservatives in general and the AP in particular are lying assholes.

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