George Will Can't Keep It Together

by: Daniel De Groot

Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 17:01


Via commenter "the new" in quick hits, we learn (surprise) that long time foe of democracy George Will opposes mandating special elections for senators.  Will's column is amusing because he can't constrain his rage against the proponent of this Constitutional amendment, Senator Feingold (D-WI) for his past work on the McCain-Feingold campaign finance legislation.  Let's take a look at what the brightest light of the conservative intellectual movement has to say this Sunday.


Sen. Feingold's Constitution
By George F. Will
Sunday, February 22, 2009; Page

A simple apology would have sufficed. Instead, Sen. Russ Feingold has decided to follow his McCain-Feingold evisceration of the First Amendment with Feingold-McCain, more vandalism against the Constitution.

You'd think a guy who was just proven a liar over his column denying global warming would be shy about demanding that other people apologize for things, but that's the utterly shameless true conservative, George F. Will for you.

Daniel De Groot :: George Will Can't Keep It Together

The Wisconsin Democrat, who is steeped in his state's progressive tradition, says, as would-be amenders of the Constitution often do, that he is reluctant to tamper with the document but tamper he must because the threat to the public weal is immense: Some governors have recently behaved badly in appointing people to fill U.S. Senate vacancies. Feingold's solution, of which John McCain is a co-sponsor, is to amend the 17th Amendment. It would be better to repeal it.

Does anyone else remember the time Stephen Colbert had a guest on, a female author who wrote about telling women to return to traditional gender roles and obedience to husbands and so forth?  It was one of the few times I've seen a guest stump Colbert, because he made a quip to her saying something like "Yeah, I want to back the '50s." (pause) "The 1850s."  To which the guest, without irony or pause said would be a great idea.  Colbert was pretty clearly thrown by this, because like many of us, he underestimated how regressive modern conservatives really are.  

So here is Will, preferring to return to the days of an unelected Senate.  Not quite 1850, but 1913 anyway.  


The Framers established election of senators by state legislators, under which system the nation got the Great Triumvirate (Henry Clay, Daniel Webster and John Calhoun) and thrived. In 1913, progressives, believing that more, and more direct, democracy is always wonderful, got the 17th Amendment ratified. It stipulates popular election of senators, under which system Wisconsin has elected, among others, Joe McCarthy, as well as Feingold.

Any understanding of the US Constitution includes the awareness that the Senate itself must approve by a 2/3 majority any proposed Constitutional amendment, so George is being disingenuous when he blithely paves over the 87 year long battle it took to pass the 17th Amendment, attributing it all to those evil Progressives.  As Wiki says:


Reform efforts began as early as 1826, when direct election was first proposed.[...]

Increasingly, Senators were elected based on state referenda, similar to the means developed by Oregon. By 1912, as many as 29 states elected Senators either as nominees of party primaries, or in conjunction with a general election. [...]

Nevertheless, the Senate approved the resolution largely because of the Senators who had been elected by state-initiated reforms, many of whom were serving their first terms, and therefore were more willing to support direct election.

This was the epitome of a bubbling up grassroots change, and even after a decisive majority of States had already moved to varying forms of electing Senators, it took one of those too-rare progressive windows to get it past the conservative obstructionists in the Senate.

I do like his flexibility in employing Joe McCarthy as a bogeyman though, not often you see conservatives admitting implicitly McCarthy was not good for the country.  He is also equating Feingold to McCarthy in an homage to Jonah Goldberg.  Yeah, the lone Senate vote against the Patriot Act is a McCarthyite.  

Also, (Will packs a lot of egregious nonsense into short paragraphs, so apologies for the meandering rebuttal) one of the people Will is extolling as a lion of the aristocratic Senate is this guy, the pro-slavery and pro-nullification John Calhoun who resigned as Vice-President over his strong feelings about the rights of States to enslave black people if their (white) citizens want to.  Good example George.  Did I mention the 1850s above?  Let's skip Will's tired fear mongering about mob-rule and veneration of the holy and perfect founders' intent to rationalize elites picking the senior national legislative chamber.


Although liberals give lip service to "diversity," they often treat federalism as an annoying impediment to their drive for uniformity. Feingold, who is proud that Wisconsin is one of only four states that clearly require special elections of replacement senators in all circumstances, wants to impose Wisconsin's preference on the other 46. Yes, he acknowledges, they could each choose to pass laws like Wisconsin's, but doing this "state by state would be a long and difficult process." Pluralism is so tediously time-consuming.

Confused?  It really is as preposterous as you're thinking.  He is conflating racial and gender diversity in pursuit of social justice by liberals with some kind of Federal/State power diversity.  

Liberals don't espouse diversity for everything in every circumstance.  If your car takes unleaded gasoline, liberals won't tell you to mix in some diesel for diversity's sake.  Some things should be uniform.  Like not having Slavery.  Or having the people who write laws be picked by the people to whom they apply.  

To the actual fair point he raises at the end about doing this piecemeal state-by-state, the answer is simply "why not?"  

There is a reason the Federal constitution and government exists and that the US is not a confederacy, where each State is sovereign and broad changes would have to be done one-by-one.  Will is mocking Feingold as merely being lazy, but who in their right mind, faced with doing 1 thing once to solve a problem or 50 things to solve the same problem would rather choose the latter?  What is the supposed advantage of Will's route?  Other than the likely failure of going that route, I can't see one.    

Far from "imposing Wisconsin's preference" on the other states, at a minimum Senators from 34 States will have to approve this thing just to send it out to the States, where 38 of them will have to agree.  It's all Feingold's fault if it happens.  Just like those 1913 Progressives were able to "force" the 17th on the unwilling nation in the most democratic manner imaginable.

And now Will's coup de honte (shame):


By restricting the financing of political advocacy, the McCain-Feingold speech-rationing law empowers the government to regulate the quantity, timing and content of political speech. Thanks to Feingold, McCain and others, the First Amendment now, in effect, reads: "Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech unless it really, really wants to in order to guarantee that there will be only as much speech about the government as the government considers appropriate, and at times the government approves."

Now Feingold proposes to traduce federalism and nudge the Senate still further away from the nature and function the Framers favored. He is, as the saying goes, an unapologetic progressive, but one with more and more for which to apologize.

He just can't help himself.  Feingold made it more difficult for wealthy people to drown out debate with bottomless propaganda budgets.  What does that have to do with electing Senators?  Who knows, but it really bugs George Will so he brings it up twice.  Thanks to Fred Hiatt, for continuing to publish this creative and vital voice with his well crafted arguments and airtight reasoning skills.


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why anyone listens to George Will (4.00 / 1)
is beyond me.

The definitive takedown of him (in my opinion) is in Eric Alterman's book on the punditocracy, Sound and Fury.

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george won't (4.00 / 1)
is a very dangerous writer and conservative, he looks and sounds harmless but just listen to what he says and you will think otherwise. he is just another example of a rw radical being respected because of the people he knows not what he believes.

He's the ultimate elitist (4.00 / 4)

  George Will is the spokesman for the ruling class. That's his role and function. He'd defend Marie Antoinette (he probably has). He's the condescending asshole nobody shares a lunch table with more than once.

  "Conservative" is accurate, but it doesn't go far enough. He's a Tory through and through. If he'd been around in 1775 he'd have been chased off to Canada...

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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He was almost certainly the sort of child (4.00 / 2)
who was unloved by his parents, scorned by his classmates, favored by his teachers (whom he kissed up to if they were of the authoritarian type), and who played with toy soldiers and fancied himseld a baseball player. A very, very odd person who inhabits a fantasy world of his own making, that is all the more odd because it represents a certain mid-19th century ideal of the highly repressed upper crust mindset. He would have been seen as shrivelled up and old-fashioned even in Edith Wharton's time. A character right out of Hawthorne--and not one of the more admirable types. Or, perhaps, he models himself after Ben Franklin's son William.

I assume that he realizes that he's stuck in this mode for the rest of his life and is just running out the clock and playing to type. One hardly even needs him to say something to know what he thinks on a given topic. A wingnut automaton, of the faux erudite Buckley variety.

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


[ Parent ]
Nice deconstruction. Or should I say, demolition? (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
Well, perhaps, but seeing as I know nothing of his actual childhood (4.00 / 1)
(nor really care to) and was effectively pulling this out of my ass, perhaps not. But given the crap that Will routinely pulls out of his sorry ass (which no doubt has never been patted by one of his baseball heros even though this is probably one of his life's dreams), I thought it was fitting that I make up crap about him and try to pass it off as fact.

It's a very underhanded and mean-spirited way of paying him a sort of compliment on one of his two main talents (the other being quite good with words), which he richly deserves.

Of course, ACORN made me do it, seeing as how they secretly control the country.

Give me back my nuts, ACORN!

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The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


[ Parent ]
Governor Nixon made a better argument on C-Span this morning. (4.00 / 4)
When asked about the proposed amendment he asserted that when a vacancy occurs in the senate a state deserves to have that seat filled as quickly as possible and an appointment by the governor was much faster and efficient than a seven or eight month long state wide special election followed very quickly by reelection.  While I support Feingold's amendment, I can see Nixon's point of view.  Still, democracy is preferable to the fiascos we've seen play out over the last few months, even if things don't always turn out as badly as in Illinois.

Check out Blue Arkansas:
http://bluearkansas.blogspot.com/


True (4.00 / 2)
although there is no reason why the person appointed to fill in until an election can be held should be allowed to serve past the end of their appointed term. There would have been far less incentive to 1) sell the seat or 2) screw around for weeks trying to choose someone, if the appointment were necessarily temporary.

Who are the best keepers of the people's liberties? The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
James Madison


[ Parent ]
How can a constitutional amendment... (4.00 / 3)
...be unconstitutional?  That makes no sense!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


Which Is Why Goerge Will Is Making The Argument (4.00 / 4)
Anyone can make an argument that makes sense.  That's no biggie.

Will's forte is arguments that make no sense whatsoever.

For example: Black is white.

(1) Gray is half white.
(2) Gray is half black.
(3) Ergo, half black is half white.
(4) Ergo, black is white.

Just add James Madison and John Calhoun, and voila!, you've got yourself a George Will column!

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


[ Parent ]
You want to know what's really sad? (4.00 / 3)
Check out the comments here...

http://digg.com/political_opin...

There are people really willing to defend this twit!  I never thought that anyone would willingly choose to have their vote taken away in preference to some elite party boss pick, especially from libertarian types, but here it is in full glory!


REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


well (4.00 / 2)
If nothing else, it makes me feel better about spending 3 hours on a Sunday afternoon writing a piece slamming Will, since he does find people willing to listen to his stuff.

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The "Great Triumvirate"? (4.00 / 7)
Despite (or perhaps because of) their efforts, the Civil War still took place, which leads one to wonder how great the actually were, and whether they're the example one wants to point to, to invalidate the direct election of senators.

It also seems to me that if one is to have an honest discussion about the senate (something that Will, of course, is neither capable of nor interested in having), one needs to consider the matter of whether the existance of the senate itself is consistent with democracy, seeing as to how much disproportionate power it gives to less populous (and generally regressive) states, and how much it's held back the progression of our democracy.

Had there been no senate in the mid-19th century, the Civil War might have been averted, or amounted to a regional insurrection quickly put down. Had there been no senate in the mid-20th century, we would have had universal health insurance by now, and the civil rights movement would have succeeded decades earlier.

In any case, Will is a silver-tongued serial liar who plays at been a good debater while actually being a simply terrible one. Among his other recent nuggets of dissembling:

--ACORN was trying to steal the '08 election

--ACORN and the CRA, with the help of Dodd, Frank and Waters, were solely responsible for the financial meltdown

--The New Deal didn't help end the Great Depression.

--The New Deal actually made the Great Depression worse.

--The New Deal actually caused the Great Depression.

--Corporate-funded political advertising doesn't violate the spirit of campaign financing laws.

--He actually isn't the spawn of Church Lady and Old Man Potter.

Ok, I made that last one up. I dare anyone to pass a constitutional amendment holding me accountable for it! And ACORN made me do it!

The liberal soul shall be made fat. He who waters shall be watered also himself. (Proverbs 11:25)


Illinois' 1858 senatorial election (0.00 / 0)
Lincoln's loss to incumbent Sen Stephen A Douglas was partly because of the law that put the final decision in the hands of the state lawmakers, not the people. The second factor had to do with some counties having greater representation than others. A third factor was itinerant railroad workers brought in to vote that year, in support of Democratic candidates who would keep Douglas in office.

Allen Guelzo's 2008 book, "Lincoln and Douglas," covers the debates thoroughly, and concludes with an analysis of the election results.  


Direct election of senators (0.00 / 0)
does not impede federalism or state sovereignty. This is a very sad argument.  

"Here's a song about blind faith. That's always a dangerous thing, whether it's in your girlfriend--or if it's in your government." Bruce Springsteen, quoted in Glory Days (Born in the USA tour??)  

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