IL-03: A Good Place To Start The Primary Challenges

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Sep 06, 2007 at 16:43


If MoveOn is looking for primary challenges to Democrats in Name Only, I would like to point people to a compelling post made yesterday by Archpundit on Dan Lipinski, who currently represents the 3rd congressional district of Illinois. I have been looking at Lipinski as a possible primary challenge for some time, but I have never seen the case for why he needs to be defeated presented more compellingly than Archpundit did yesterday. Here are some key facts presented in the post:
  1. Deep Blue District: Lipinski represents an overwhelmingly Democratic district, with a partisan voting index of Democrat +10.3, and where Kerry won 59% of the vote in 2004. This is a blue district in absolutely no danger of falling into Republican hands. It should be represented by a strong progressive.

  2. Nepotism Lipinski never had to campaign for the seat, not even in a primary. When he first won back in 2002, his father actually was the Democratic nominee. However, after his father won the primary, he stepped aside and had the junior Lipinski placed on the ballot in his stead. In other words, Lipinski has no real campaign experience, and only scored his seat in Congress through pure nepotism.

  3. Corruption, Machine Politics and Voter Fraud: Lipinski has regularly engaged in voter fraud:

    Until his dad crowned him a congressman, he spent 15 years out of town working at universities in North Carolina, Indiana and Tennessee. Somehow, while being a resident of other states, he managed to vote here, not by absentee ballot but in person. Election judges in his father's 23rd Ward marked him present in every Chicago election since at least 1990, according to official records.

    Oddly, Lipinski, can't recall casting those votes. "I'm trying to think back to that time," he told me. "I honestly cannot remember."

    Now the voter records are missing. This is clear voter fraud perpetrated by a local machine. Lipinski probably did not vote for over 15 years.

  4. Bush Dog: Lipinski is a Bush Dog who voted with Bush on the war and on FISA. In fact, the IL-03 is by far the bluest district represented by a Bush Dog. We will never have a progressive governing majority if Bush Dogs occupy seats like this.

  5. Hard Right Anti-Choice: In addition to being a Bush Dog, Lipinski is staunchly anti-choice. He has a zero rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood. He doesn't believe in family planning at all, in fact.

  6. Not Progressive On Much Of Anything: In addition to his records on Iraq, FISA and choice, he also is below average for a Democrat on immigration, gets a big fat zero from Progressive Punch on GLBT issues, and only a 50% score from the Drum major institute on progressive family issues. Basically, he sucks at just about everything.

  7. Already has a primary opponent: Recruiting a primary challenger against Lipinski isn't even necessary. Mark Pera has already signed on to run against him. You can compare some of their views here.

If institutional support is coming on board to run some primary challenges against Bush Dogs, DINOs, and other Dems who act as a negative force on our majority, IL-03 seems like a great place to start the challenges. For all the reasons listed above, right now, it is hard to imagine a more obvious case where a primary challenge can be won, and where a Democrat needs to go. Lipinski is entirely out of step with his district. Let's find someone who is a better fit.

More and better Democrats.

Chris Bowers :: IL-03: A Good Place To Start The Primary Challenges

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Can a primary challenge .. (0.00 / 0)
can a fair shake against Lipinski? .. Does the machine still control that district?

Another primary opponent (4.00 / 1)
I'm all for challenging Lipinski and Mark Pera is great. But there's another point. There is at least one other candidate in the race and there are suggestions that he may be there to dilute the anti-Lipinski vote. This is what happened in 2006 as well. Chicago machine politics is very strong. People need to know the game that is being played in IL-03.

wow (0.00 / 0)
#2 and #3 are pretty impressive.

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

not really (4.00 / 2)
this is chicago.  Home of Todd (son of John) Sroger, Richie (son of Richard) Daley, Lisa (daughter of Michael) Madigan, more aldermen than I can count who's parent was alderman before them. 

As far as vote fraud goes, well, hey this is Chicago, a city where more votes have been cast than there have been registered voters.  The big question back in Daley Senior's era was whether downstate would stuff the ballot boxes more than Chicago did.

Karl Rove, at his best, would get his rear end handed to him here.

A little more seriously though, there's one or 2 other candidates in the primary, who are shills for Lipinski, working to dilute the reform vote.  Happens all the time.


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This is exactly (0.00 / 0)
the kind of exercise that will send a strong warning to conservative Dems. We'll elect a progressive Democrat if you don't step up! I think this district is exactly the type of race MoveOn should consider.
According to their e-mail:
"There are a few key things to keep in mind. We would only get involved in a primary race if MoveOn members in the district or state wanted to-and a majority supported that primary challenger. And we'd focus on races where a progressive had a good chance of beating the sitting Democrat and also winning the general election."

maybe this will wake the Democrats up!


Some DFA members are in. (4.00 / 1)
Looks like a local DFA group is supporting Mark Pera.  They have an ActBlue page up for him.  So there's some evidence of local, grass roots behind him.

Little Money Needed (0.00 / 0)
Also to add on an ability to over throw him.  In 2004 he only raised $195,065 and in 2006 only raised $371,989.  Of course, he never had to campaign against much of an opponent in those races.  That is very little, and if some single issue groups could give, he could be thrown out more easily than Lieberman.

(numbers from opensecrets.org)
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Err... (0.00 / 0)
Lipinski might not raise much money, but it is going to take a lot of money for Pera to beat the Chicago Democratic machine.

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Is it possible (0.00 / 0)
to work within the "Chicago Democratic Machine" to replace Lipinski? I have no expertise on machine politics.

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Um... (0.00 / 0)
I am hesitant to just write no, but... No.

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Don't Be Hesitant (0.00 / 0)
Madigan worked hard last cycle to keep Dan in there.  You have to beat the machine to win this seat, but that's not impossible. Difficult yes, not impossible.

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Lipinski Voting Record (0.00 / 0)
I'll confess that I knew close to nothing about Lipinski before reading this post and then got all fired up to go after him.  Then I went to Progressive Punch to check out how bad his record is.  http://www.progressi...

Now Progressive Punch is not the final word as to what vote is the correct vote for a progressive, but I think they do a good job.  Anyway, they give Lipinski an overall score of voting "progressive" 83.5% of the time.  That's far from perfect, but it is not "Not Progressive On Much Of Anything."  He ranks #156 of all house members.

On the environment, he votes right 94.3% of the time and on labor votes, he votes right 93.3% of the time.  On what PP calls "War and Peace" votes, he votes right 86% of the time and ranks #82 in the house.  http://www.progressi...

Even on Iraq, PP gives him a score of 85.7% voting correctly.  Here are all of the votes for that category.  http://www.progressi...

In short, as for me, I would rather go after someone with a somewhat worse record, even if the district is less democratic. 


In the 80s is not... (0.00 / 0)
....very good at PP. I cruise there a bit and low 80s ain't good.

Further, the rest of the points made in this post are pretty convincing to me. I knew when I opened the comments to this post that 'some'  would be saying, 'oh, him...he's not so bad....' I was pleased to find only one 'Bush Dog Defender' here.

As I understand it the 'Bush Dog' campaign is to make the Congress MORE progressive not to maintain the status quo.

In conclusion, Lieberman is at 76%.


Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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Lipinski's voting record...is awful (0.00 / 0)
In addition to the votes that Chris mentioned above, Lipinski voted...

-NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)

and

-YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)

Yikes. 

Source:  http://www.ontheissu...


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Fair Points (0.00 / 0)
I've got his war vote records on the way so I can do a post strictly on those.

I'll give him decent props for the environmental record--he's been much, much better than his Dad who ranked in the 30s on LCV scores usually.  That said, the votes are geared towards a Republican controlled Congress where the votes are going to be more right oriented anyway and I'm betting he falls significantly now.  He has big supporters in the transportation lobby and he'll vote with them.

He's also decent on labor issues and health care.

That said, he's bad on:

Constitutional Rights
Choice
Contraception
Immigration (20 percent + of his District is Latino)
Middle Class/Working Class Issues--see the DMI rankings--and it's that kind of District
GLBT issues
Corruption

All of this in a 59 percent Kerry District.  In a red District, I might give him some slack on some, and I mean some not all, of this--not in a solid blue district. 


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All good points (0.00 / 0)
As I stated, I know little about this guy other than what I am reading now.  I see the whole issue as one of balancing a number of factors, but raising counter-points seems to make me a "Bush Dog Defender" in the eyes of a different poster above.  (Sigh) 

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Good pick (0.00 / 0)
Lipinski is more Republican than most Republicans, so he's an excellent candidate for challenging in the primary. You'd think somebody who still supports Bush's war, opposes family planning, and wants to build a wall across the Mexican border would be an easy target. But not so.

The 3rd District may qualify as the defining example of Reagan Dems. It is mostly working class suburbs with a small slice of Chicago thrown in, which includes the home base of the local Dem Machine. In the Chicago end of the district there is a sense of feeling surrounded by expanding African American turf, which in turn fuels distain for generic "liberals". This was the base for the shameful behavior of the Chicago City Council toward Harold Washington, Chicago's first Black mayor. The more western part of the district is mostly blue-collar and service worker suburbs, again with a strong Reagan Dem orientation.

Given the current disgust with Bush and the GOP, Lipinski, with his extremist wingnut record, should be vulnerable to a good primary challenger. At the same time anger at the miserable failure Democratic-controlled state government could also be made to spill over to Lipinski via a call to throw out the old, corrupt Dem machine, of which Lipinski is a charter member.

The candidate will have to be a convincing populist who can speak the language of working people. A Kerry type will go down in flames. What's needed is an Edwards or a Feingold. I don't yet have a read on whether Pera meets that standard -- it's going to be more about personality than issues. The right candidate could become the national icon of a progressive resurgence regardless of party.


If you want to know more about Mark Pera (0.00 / 0)
He will be on the Blue America chat at FDL on Saturday.

As a resident of IL-03, I am gratified to see all the interest in taking Little Prince Lipinski out. It has been aggravating beyond words to know that I don't have a congressman who represents me even though I live in a Blue district in a Blue city in a Blue state. Lipinski, having inherited the seat through no merit of his own, feels no obligation to actually, you know, represent his district. He's just keeping the seat warm. He's the only one of my reps in Congress that never responds to letters unless they are positive. Durbin and Obama both consistently reply with detailed, thoughtful letters even when I've reamed them out about something. Lipinski couldn't care less and can't be bothered.

No society that feeds its children on tales of successful violence can expect them not to believe that violence in the end is rewarded. -Margaret Mead


Isn't Illinois' primary really early? (0.00 / 0)
I think their congressional primaries take place in February or March, so if this is going to happen, it needs to start soon.

Yup, we're on (4.00 / 1)
for the Super-Mega-Crazy-Nutball-Political Junkie Heaven-Tuesday (Feb 5). 

Yup, a primary challenge.  In February.  In Chicago.  Low Turnout Spectacular. 

I totally swear that I'll go canvassing.  I promise.  I have to keep telling myself that.  It'll be totally miserable.  :-)

That said, the aldermanic elections were pretty early this year, but not early February early, and we ran some people out of office.  I'd recommend to the Pera campaign that they try to connect Lipinski with the Strogers.  I know a lot of people who absolutely hate Stroger, and would be more than happy to vote against him and everything he represents.

There's going to be a lot of action in Illinois on Feb 5 actually.  Probably the craziest primary season we've seen in ages.

IL-3 Primary (Pera vs. Lipinski vs Somebody (vs somebody else?)
IL-4 has a dinky little primary (Gutierrez vs Cardenas - Cardenas is a bad man)
IL-10 Primary Dan Seals vs Lieberdem Jay Footlik
IL-14 Primary Bill Foster vs Jotham Stein vs John Laesch
IL-18 looks like it may have a primary going, too.  One announced candidate, several exploring, and the potential for Dick Versace entering the race (the former Pacers and Bradley Coach) - this'll be fun if he enters.


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IL-18 (0.00 / 0)
Actually IL-18 is back down to no declared Dems... For now at least.

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Take him down (0.00 / 0)
I've had my eye on Lipinski for a while - glad he got your attention too.

Living in Chicago, I'd gladly work to have another candidate beat him in the primary.  It would be tough to do worse with any other Dem.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. -- Martin Luther King, Jr


I support it (0.00 / 0)
I grew up in Chicago on the South Side, and the Lipinski thing in '02 happened just after I moved in late 2000. 

Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't been strongly primaried already, but I guess we were too busy fighting for the white house in '04 and for Congress in '06. 

I think, at the very least, a good challenge will help wake him up. 

Go for it!


Great idea ... (0.00 / 0)
He did not deserve that seat and is WAY too conservative for it. Make him sweat.

However ... don't expect to, you know, win or anything like that. He's been primaried before, in 2006, including by one guy who raised a decent $120k and had Celinda Lake as his pollster, if memory serves. Those folks have been represented by a Lipinski for so long, and the Chicago machine is so strong, it's basically an impossibility that he can be beat.


I'm hoping (0.00 / 0)
Brian Baird gets added to the list, if only for his recent Iraq insanity.

Lipinski (0.00 / 0)
"staunchly anti-choice" "he also is below average for a Democrat on immigration, gets a big fat zero from Progressive Punch on GLBT issues, and only a 50 percent score from the Drum Major Institute on progressive family issues. Basically, he sucks at just about everything."

Sounds good, Chris.

Banned for posting five straight diaries.


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