Tentative Deal Forged On Cramdown

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Mar 03, 2009 at 20:20


As Jane Hamsher and Kagro X have already noted, a deal on "cramdown" bankruptcy legislation appears to have been forged. And I am happy to report that, rather than the fake compromises of the last eight years where Democrats and / or progressives get next to nothing while Republicans and / or conservatives get 95% of what they want, this deal seems to be a true compromise where both sides can legitimately claim victory. From CQ:

House Democratic leaders reached an agreement Tuesday on a compromise version of the "cramdown" provision in broad mortgage legislation that is expected to be on the floor this week.

The controversial provision would allow bankruptcy judges to modify the mortgages on the primary residences of homeowners who are in jeopardy of foreclosure, but only as a last resort.(...)

In negotiations that picked up steam Monday and continued throughout much of the day Tuesday, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., met with representatives of the business-oriented New Democrat Coalition and Senate staff to hash out a deal that would allow a bankruptcy judge to cut the principal on a homeowner's mortgage, lower the interest rate and extend the duration.(...)

Among the changes is a requirement that a homeowner seeking protection in bankruptcy court must convince the judge he or she has made sufficient efforts to complete a loan modification through the Obama administration's voluntary refinancing program. Judges would also be required to consider interest rate reductions lowering the monthly mortgage payment to no more than 31 percent of the borrower's income before considering a principal reduction.

Jane Hamsher has acquired a complete list of changes to the legislation. In the extended entry, I provide a few, generally positive thoughts on the deal.

Chris Bowers :: Tentative Deal Forged On Cramdown
I had been pretty hard on Democratic opponents of the original bill, but right now I am feeling alright:

  1. While I am not thrilled that a "compromise" was required on this legislation, the actual concessions that were required seem pretty light. Effectively, the changes don't seem to either stop or narrow cramdown, but simply delay it by making prospective recipients go through a few hoops first. As such, I can understand the positive comments in the article quoted above from Representatives such as Zoe Lofgren, Barney Frank, and Brad Miller, all of whom I trust on this matter. The substance of cramdown remains intact.

  2. The deal appears to have been made with Senate staff, as much as it was made with the New Dems. To me, this is actually the most optimistic part of the deal. Passing this legislation through the Senate was always a longshot, but if this deal was forged with Senate staff, then maybe we can actually get decent legislation passed into law. Overall, I can live with it. If it passes the Senate without further modifications, then I am very happy.

  3. It appears that the New Democrats, the Obama administration, and the Democratic House leadership will all be selling this compromise. As such, if any Democrats vote against this legislation, then they are really crossing over into hopeless, pro-Republican, pro-Wall Street territory.
Clearly, given that she was able to hold up the legislation, and forge a new deal altogether, this is a big victory for Representative Ellen Tauscher. At the same time, the changes seem light enough that the original proponents of the plan, including Representatives John Conyers and Brad Miller, can also claim victory. This is perhaps a true compromise. I might change my mind as more details come to light, but I think tonight that there is reasont o be optimistic.

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Sounds good to me (4.00 / 1)
If this info is correct, this is an example of the kind of "good" compromise that we always hear the Broder types talk about but rarely actually see. Usually, compromise rears its head as it did during the stimulus debate, with the moderate faction simply making a bill worse and less effective for no clear reason.

In this case, I think it is very important to reduce the moral hazard of cramdown by making sure it's not just a quick and easy option for everyone who is underwater. It should only be a last resort for the truly desperate, and it sounds like these changes would accomplish that.

By the way, anyone see this article in the NY Times? Fascinating. The former Countrywide execs are now making millions by buying up at-risk mortgages for 40 cents on the dollar, renegotiating with the home owners by cutting their interest rates in half, and then pocketing half the profits. Great for the homeowner, great for the disgraced Countrywide execs, and it sounds like a terrible deal for the taxpayer. If anyone should be making money off these renegotiated mortgages, it should be the US govt.


Yeah... (4.00 / 5)
We ended up with a good bill AND bringing Ellen Tauscher & her New Dems aboard. Hopefully, this will embolden Speaker Nancy Pelosi & the House Progressives to start bargaining from their real position of strength more often.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.

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Finally! (4.00 / 2)
Speaker Pelosi & the Progressive Dems finally flex their political muscles! I like this. They helped improve the stimulus (even if it was still too small), and now they're fixing "bankruptcy reform". It's about time they realize the power they actually have.

Yes, Virginia, there are progressives in Nevada.

Agreed (4.00 / 3)
While it's not a 100% win our side stood up and cramdown is still mostly in place. This should pass on Thursday and anyone who votes against it needs to at the very least get ads run against them as you suggested. Same for the Senate.

A little off topic, but this Politico article is pretty disturbing to me. Looks like a gang of 15 Senators are teaming up to water down Obama's priorities. Thankfully we know the names of thirteen of them. It's very similar to the stimulus "Gang of 18"

http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

Evan Bayh (head of the group, also founded Senate Blue Dogs, G18)
Ben Nelson (G18)
Mary Landrieu (G18)
Mark Warner (G18)
Bill Nelson
Amy Klobuchar
Mark Pryor
Jeanne Shaheen (G18)
Robert P. Casey Jr.
Blanche L. Lincoln
Joseph I. Lieberman (G18)
Claire McCaskill (G18)
Mark Begich

I'm thinking we need to come up with a name for these folks and start a campaign to track them and stop them from watering down one of the most progressive budget's in history and other progressive priorities. Any idea's for a name? Gang of the Status Quo is the best idea I came up with and I don't like it at all.  

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


There's a reason why Obama went big... (4.00 / 2)
He knows that this thing will get pared down...  just like the stimulus, and that's OK... you're never going to get 100% of what you want... and democrats will look good doing it.  Remember, we only need 50 for this one...

Also, the President hasn't put any muscle against these folk, yet...  They will take a lot of persuading, but I think the president can pull it off!

REID: Voting against us was never part of our arrangement!
SPECTER: I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!
REID: This deal keeps getting worse all the time!


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We need to help him though (4.00 / 2)
by tracking their statements and putting pressure on them. We've also got a gang on climate change

Here's the link, although it's down currently. With all those gangs combined we've got about 20 or so members of our caucus at the very least working to water down key progressive priorities.  

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


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More than disturbing (4.00 / 2)
I read that article in shock. What the hell is Klobuchar doing in there?

And Lieberman is toast in 2012 if he doesn't start acting like a democrat.


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I know (4.00 / 1)
hopefully she's just trying to be in the discussions and push them to the left. But still, Minnesota is a solidly Democratic state, she doesn't need to be doing that kind of stuff.  

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power

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Joementum is toast period... doesn't matter how he acts. (4.00 / 2)


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Mark Warner is not a surprise ... (0.00 / 0)
but Bob Casey? ... ugh!!  Mark Begich?  don't know enough about him

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I swear to god... (4.00 / 1)
Next time I hear Jerome call Mark Warner a progressive I am verbally going to tear him a new one.

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Jerome calling someone a progressive (4.00 / 2)
basically kills any chance of my supporting that candidate in a primary.  

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power

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Association of Assholes? (0.00 / 0)
Benedict Democrats?
Those who sell out Americans to their corporate masters?

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How about "Nervous Nelly Fifteen" (0.00 / 0)
Nervous nelly:

Webster: "A timid or worrisome person"
American Heritage: "An unduly timid or anxious person."
Urban dictionary: "A person who is scared to do things mildly intense."


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no way that klobuchar, mccaskill and casey (4.00 / 2)
hold out against obama for too long.  if anything, they will be pushing this thing from inside the 'gang'

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Status Quo works (0.00 / 0)
But only if the reference is to the band - the same three chords, hamfistedly played, again and again, accompanied by mindless chanting.

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Water Dogs (0.00 / 0)
They carry it for the corporatists and they use it to dilute good ideas.

Its in the tradition of Blue Dogs, Yellow Dogs and Bush Dogs, too.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


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Dammit, when is Kay Hagan (D-NC) going to start selling us out? (0.00 / 0)
The suspense is killing me.

Doesn't she realize she's from the south?

(Just kidding, Sen. Hagan. Keep up the good work.)


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Dammit, when is Kay Hagan (D-NC) going to start selling us out? (0.00 / 0)
The suspense is killing me.

Doesn't she realize she's from the south?

(Just kidding, Sen. Hagan. Keep up the good work.)


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I am uneasy with some of the changes (4.00 / 1)
Because I think that they might actually have a bigger impact than it might first seem.  

Making people jump through a few more hoops which may slow down the process

1. Given the economic climate speed is important.

2. Why are they being told to jump through these hoops all of which involve the bank/lender responding appropriately to them....Just how much will it slow them down? How much longer will they be in arrears and how much will those arrears  add up to to.  Enough to trigger a foreclosure before the homeowner gets to the bankruptcy court?  

The theory behind this has  been that not only  that judges will change terms, but that the threat of changing the terms by the judge will be enough to get the bank to do it by themselves.

It seems to me some of the urgency of the threat is removed by slowing down the process. With the threat modified, fewer loans will be modified BEFORE the owner/debtor get to bankruptcy court...actually avoiding bankruptcy court.  Just how many will this affect?  A few or most of them?

Changes to ensure that judges must deny judicial modification in cases where the debtor could otherwise afford the loan.  This will prevent wealthy people from taking advantage or falling real estate prices;

What or Who determines who's "wealthy" enough to afford the home? Is there some way to determine wealthy here.  What happens if they are assessed a wealthy becasue both spouses are working and later that week, one or both lose their jobs?  This is a criteria that gives me much pause.

One of the on going dynamics in neighborhood with home foreclosures, is that a foreclosure drives down everyone's value even further.  People who are "wealthy" enough, but have mortgages that are underwater (the house is worth less than the mortgage) may still just walk away from the house because it's not worth paying for a house that will never have the value of the mortgage.  They could sell it in the future and still owe the bank money.  There is nothing keeping them there.  They stop paying the mortgage, leave the house. It still has a negative impact on property values in the community.  

Isn't the purpose of the bill to try to cut off the downward spiral of property values.  I have a feeling these changes may interfere with the purpose of the bill.  

"Incrementalism isn't a different path to the same place, it could be a different path to a different place"
Stoller


Can't share the giddyness (0.00 / 0)
As mentioned over at FDL. This bill doesn't really address lowering home values realistically. Most if not all markets are nowhere near the bottom now. So I have to ask, will we do this again in 18 to 24 months?

Also this part:

The GAO must analyze how bankruptcy judges restructure mortgages, including the number of judges disciplined as a result of actions taken to restore mortgages.

So who's the judge really? And even if this type of scrutiny of a judge doesn't sound Federalist-Rovian to you... how much more time and expense will it add to the entire process?

I have many more problems... The whole thing looks like a half as**ed attempt to coddle lenders to me. Nothing else.


Didn't the original wording remove second homes (4.00 / 1)
from a possible rescue? Has that been removed?

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