Is there an appetite for primary challenges among Democratic Activists?

by: Matt Stoller

Fri Sep 07, 2007 at 12:03


There are basically five problems in the Democratic Party preventing us from becoming a progressive governing majority.

Democratic leadership ineptitude:  There's pervasively poor leadership from Democratic leaders in Congress, from Rahm Emanuel to Nancy Pelosi to Steny Hoyer to John Conyers to John Dingell to Chuck Schumer.  Conyers, for instance, pushed hard to get the FISA expansion passed because he was afraid of being blamed for a terrorist attack.  Schumer has consistently thought that Iraq would be 'off the table' in 2008 because Bush would have to withdraw.  These people don't understand messaging or working with activist allies, and they allow no space for innovation from freshmen.

Bush Dog Democrats:  These are people like John Tanner (TN-08) and Melissa Bean, both of whom are reactionary Democrats that undercut progressives with bad votes on a regular basis at key moments.

The Brookings Institute Complex:  This is a right-wing institution that cares little for scholarship, despite its credo, yet it still has remarkable amounts of credibility.  It's places like this where Petraeus gets his stellar reputation, and where conventional wisdom is shaped.

The Presidential complex:  With the exception of Richardson, all major candidates are both advocating for remaining in Iraq and lying to the electorate about their plans with slogans like 'I will end the war'.  The electorate is grossly uninformed.  And yet, this is consistent, as somehow this process selects for bad leaders.  Carter, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry... all of them were either bad candidates or not progressive movement candidates, and usually they were both.

The Activist Base: I sent an email out last night to the Blogpac list, and I asked for suggestions on how to handle Democratic ineptitude.  With a few exceptions, no one suggested primary challenges.  I found that remarkable.  We are so afraid of losing seats, we are so afraid of Republicans winning anywhere that we are willing to suborn all attempts at innovation in the political system to a larger need, which effectively advances the interests of the Brookings institution complex, the Presidential complex, the Democratic leadership, and the Bush Dogs.

This is bad, and I don't know what to do about it.  It's my instinct for more democracy and more openness, we need primaries everywhere to complement the 50 state strategy, maybe a 50 state primary strategy.  But perhaps we need more than that, a more radical cultural argument.  Perhaps we should start explicitly setting ourselves up against the culture of greed and militarism, profit and markets, and for the good life and a set of moral values involving community, humility, and justice.  I talked to a very exciting possible Congressional candidate in Virginia today who made this pitch to me in Christian terms, and I found it compelling.  The liberal cultural critique of the media and the liberal economic argument mesh nicely with the Christian critique of our excessively materialistic culture.

Anyway, those are just some thoughts.  I want us to focus on what we can do as citizens, as activists.  Primary challenges, perhaps a 50 state primary challenge strategy, makes sense.

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Both! (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps we should start explicitly setting ourselves up against the culture of greed and militarism, profit and markets, and for the good life and a set of moral values involving community, humility, and justice.  I talked to a very exciting possible Congressional candidate in Virginia today who made this pitch to me in Christian terms, and I found it compelling.

This seems correct to me. It's the next logical step in the Living Liberally progression, and it strikes at the root of the problem.

The only way to fix things in the long run is to change the consensus among the leadership class. Partly that's about changing the membership of the leadership class w/more and better Democrats -- a lot of these people are twenty years or more into the current scene, and are unlikely to change -- but championing a more reality-based and human culture is critical for the long game.

The good news is we're not alone in this. Among the 80% of people who say the US is on the wrong track, we have many allies from across the political spectrum. As you note, this has powerful moral dimensions. We seek to make people more free, alive, and happy, to fight against the forces that keep Americans from leading The Good Life.

Me | My Work | Future Majority


I Want To Make Another Pitch For My Battleground District Strategy (4.00 / 3)
It's not just values that need to be changed, they need to be institutionalized into our political organizing, and that's what I was writing about in "Beyond Bush Dogs? Proposal For A Pro-Active Battleground District Organizing Strategy":

The purpose of this project (subject to revision) is 7-fold:

(1) To create a national framework for pro-actively and continually influencing conservative Democrats and Democratic officeholders in swing/battleground districts, and supporting them in getting a progressive message out.  We're about carrots as well as sticks.  Once we really get rolling, we should be increasingly about carrots.

(2)  To influence the political climate in battleground districts held by Republicans to make the environment more favorable for Democratic challengers, and weaken support for Republican opposition in Congress.

(3) To bring into focus underlying shifts and forgotten long-term trends in public opinion that support a fresh, progressive approach to problem-solving and governing.

(4) To highlight new and emerging progressive issues, narratives, and policy proposals.

(5) To bring to the fore salient facts that are otherwise routinely buried by existing political discourse.

(6) To effectively communicate 3, 4 and 5--particularly at the district level--to Democratic officeholders and candidates, local media, Democratic activists and organizations, non-party activists and organizaitons, and directly to the people via new and traditional forms of organizing and outreach.

(7) To build strong bonds between locally-grounded and nationally-focused progressives on a continuing, ongoing basis.

The values are there in the grassroots, and in many organizations as well.  The disconnect comes in the party mechanism itself, and how it has adjusted itself to react to--not counter--the rightwing movement.  My proposal was intended as a first step to building the sort of long-term broad activist infrastructure that can shift the party out of its reactive mode and into a pro-active mode.

The enormous disconnect that exists right now should be seen as an enormous opportunity to start bringing people together to start creating that change.

Of course, the problem is not limited to the battleground districts.  But they are the traditional millstone, and hence a good place to focus attention.  But the principle of organizing the sort of cooperative framework I've written about is easily generalized to include the whole country. 

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


so basically (0.00 / 0)
Do a lot of polling in battleground districts and have activists release it?

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I know the messager may not be popular here, but his data is free (0.00 / 0)
http://www.democracy...

If you back about two years, DC did extensive focus groups in Red States.  The bottom line.  Voters love the issues but don't believe Democrats will fight for average Americans.

Fighting for Texas families

2006,2008 Nominee for US Congress, TX 4th


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I Want To Target The Very Same Districts (0.00 / 0)
Since Democracy Corps is already looking at these districts, they are an ideal place to start our focus.  It's even possible that we could influence them to start asking a few of our questions, or some other questions influenced by a comparison of our resuilts with theirs.

It's only natural that we would ask questions from a different perspective that would get more directly and specifically at what people would want Democrats to do, for example.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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It's More Targetted and Integrated Than That (0.00 / 0)
But that's not a bad initial description.

First, on the issue of polling:

The power of the MyDD poll was that we crafted it ourselves, and that meant we could ask the questions we wanted answered, we could probe connections we wanted to clarify or illuminate, and we could also combine our unique questions with ones that let us compare our results with others.

We already know that the electorate is shifting, but there's far too little polling designed to understand what's behind that (other than folks realizing that the GOP pretty much sucks at everything it touches).  There's also far too little progressive messaging going on, so people don't have enough exposure to progressive alternatives.  Thus, if you poll people in a way that probes what they want (not just don't want), and give them explicit progressive options as part of the menu, I think you have a real chance to discover viable progressive themes that would otherwise be downplayed or ignored.

Second, on the issue of how to use polling:

My proposal is very much keyed into the idea that we can use the news value of polls strategically, to help generate local news stories, bypass the national press, and connect with local activists and organizations who can in turn create their own local actions--including lobbying, holding local press conferences, and public, town hall-style meetings.

By crafting polls that are deliberately multi-issue, and by doing analysis of the data that looks for cross-issue connections, we can craft the polling process to support the issue-coalition process, and create a powerful synegetic process between local and national activists, between data geeks and issue activists, etc.

You can re-read the whole proposal here, and the poll-specific aspect of it here.

Note that by targetting the battleground districts we are directly confronting the "conservative heartland" meme, and preparing to steal the Bush Dogs lunch.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Influence year round rather than just election day (4.00 / 2)
I agree with a more multifaceted approach of communication and influence grounded at the local and national levels. Conventional methods to do this are something like what Moveon or issues based organizations employ. Email lists, phone calls, letter writing, press releases, new media information dissemination, local gatherings, and direct meetings and calls with the congressman are methods to do this. This puts pressure an elected official from the inside and outside.

This being a national blog there are only a subset of these methods that can be used and it will be more effective cooperation with local activists. Open Left could be a focal point for spreading awareness, calling for organization, and releasing information in a new media or viral format to induce action on the core issues that are important in the Bush Dog campaign.

A primary challenge is like the bazooka option for correcting elected officials that are getting in the way of the progressive movement. It should be held in reserve and used in a very few instances when necessary but this should not be them main mode of operation to accomplish our goals.

I you want health care, work hard. If you want universal health care, vote for liberals.


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If You Check Out My Original Porposal (0.00 / 0)
HERE!, you'll see that I'm interested in creating a cooperative framework that would function on an ongoing basis, just as you suggest.

The stronger the local alliance of groups participating, the more they could do.  But periodic collaborations can establish a basic foundation that makes it much easier to mount quick and effective actions on a more ad-hoc basis, which in turn sustains interest, enthusiasm and committment for major actions.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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the news media (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps it is time for a completely different approach. Perhaps it is time to start a series of FCC challenges on the grounds that using the people's airwaves for the purpose of deceiving the people constitutes a failure to operate in the public interest.

Or, judging from Spocko's Brain blog, challenging FCC licenses on the grounds that inciting racial hatred constitutes failure to operate in the public interest.


Radical cultural argument (0.00 / 0)
Speaking of outsiders and radical cultural arguments (rooted in such radical documents as the Constitution and the New Testament), what do you think of Glenn Melancon?  (Watch the video):
http://www.dailykos....

You don't hear Democrats talking like that too often.  In some ways it sounds like a cross between LBJ and RFK (and I'm sure they're both rolling over in their graves over that linking).

If we're really going to pursue a 50 state strategy, this seems to be a good way to talk about Democratic values.  It's why I'm a Democrat.

I think as a movement we should view getting involved in these inexpensive media districts as seed investments in the 50 state strategy.  150k would go a long way out there.  What do you think?

Voter Genome Project


"It's leadership stupid" (4.00 / 2)
I believe the modern Democratic Party has given up on leadership.  It's all about mass marketing.  I imagine if LBJ had taken the modern approach to Civil Rights, then he never would have risked "losing the south for a generation." 

I also know that Democratic activists confuse the Republican voters with Karl Rove.  Instead of graciously accepting back the "prodigal son," we say "About time you woke up!" or  "How could you have been so stupid!" or "Tired of being fooled?"  We need to realize they had America's best intentions in their heart.  We need to listen first and talk second.  Here are some examples.

Gay Marriage:  Washington Republicans have NEVER taken care of our families.  Families are under assault in this country, but when I took my "traditional marriage vows" there was no mention of gays.  My vows did say "for richer, for poorer, for sickness and in health"  Why? Because job and healthcare security are essential to healthy marriages.  Fifty percent of marriages don't end in gayness. They do end because a healthcare crisis drives a couple into bankruptcy.  Karl Rove successfully identified a concern for average Americans and created a scapegoat to avoid solving the real problem.  He's talking about gays while insurance corporation pick our pocket.

Taxes:  Washington Republicans have NEVER lowered our taxes.  Why, after  30 years of "Reaganonics," are middle class Americans paying more in taxes?  It's simple, Republicans care more about Paris Hilton's estate tax than relieving your tax burden.  Karl Rove successfully identified a concern for average Americans and created a scapegoat to avoid solving the real problem.  He's talking about taxes while corporations pick our pocket.

Abortion:  Washington Republicans don't want to end abortions, they simply want to outlaw it.  No expectant mother should feel alone and compelled to terminate a pregnancy.  Every pregnant woman should have access to health care before and after her child is born.  Women also need to know that Congress is working to improve job opportunities here at home instead of shipping jobs overseas -- more than 20% of women in the United States who have an abortion do so because they can't afford a baby.  To give them an alternative, I would work to remove the restrictions to adoption and to improve the foster care system.  Finally, Congress must make sure low income mothers have access to child care so they can work and take care of their families.  When women feel part of a community, they will be less likely to turn to abortion as a form of birth control.

Finally,
God: Karl Rove doesn't care about God.  He cares about politics. Our founding fathers designed the Bill of Rights to limit the government's intrusion into our private lives.  Governments should only legislate when our behavior physically threatens our neighbors.  The founding fathers wisely recognized our faith, our thoughts and our free speech don't normally threaten others.  No government can, or should try to, control your beliefs about God.  God is much too important to be left in the hands of politicians in Washington and Austin. 


Fighting for Texas families

2006,2008 Nominee for US Congress, TX 4th


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Forget this election! (0.00 / 0)
Well, perhaps that's an overstatement.  But by focusing exclusively on 2008, we are put in a reactive position.  Urgency may be required, but are we capable of an "urgent" response?  I doubt it.  I checked out the MoveOn site and wasn't impressed.

I treat it as a given that we will elect a Democratic president in 2008.  If I'm wrong, beat me, but I don't think what I do will make a rat's ass of difference in that regard.  The 2010 congressional elections will have a different dynamic, because a Democratic incumbency won't have the "We must get rid of Bush (and Bushism)" imperative.  We can fight on the grounds of what is right for America and the world.

I firmly believe that the American people are, or will be, with us if we can get out our message.  But judging from OpenLeft, which I consider the best thing out there, our message is insufficiently honed for us to act decisively.

Full Court Press!  http://www.openleft.com/showDi...


Disagree, 2008 is surge year for democrats (0.00 / 0)
This is the year where Democrats will gain seats in the house.  And that means this is the year Democrats can lose seats in the house.

So primary them and then deliberately toss the general to the GOP.  Run ads in general that say: "if you vote for XXX, you might as well be voting for Bush."

If 3-4 go down that way, congress is going to be scared of the progressives.  And fear brings power.


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So.... (0.00 / 0)
So basically the problem with the Democratic party is "everything."

There does seem to be a whole lot of resistance to.... (0.00 / 0)
....primary challenges. I found that out with my Bush Dog profile of Heath Shuler.

I call bullshit on this attitude. Instead of whining about, 'But....but...but he/she, Bush Dog, is better than the ReThug we got rid of.'

To which I would pose the question: 'How is your rep a progressive Democrat if they vote:

a) with the Republicans on important issues?

b) against progressive legislation?

My answer is that such folks need to be challenged in their primary by actual progressive candidates.

That's how you build a progressive majority.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


Not "primaries everywhere" but just a few good ones (4.00 / 1)
We need a few good primaries, not "primaries everywhere."  What are "good primaries"?  Obviously, ones where we win, and win or hold the seat in the general (Jerry McNerney).  Less obviously, ones where we lose but move the candidate to the left (Jane Harman).  Of course, we have to keep the candidate from straying once in office, but that's easier if s/he was actively backed by progressives in the first place.  Lipinski in IL-03 would seem to fit this bill, as does Al Wynn. 

What we don't need are quixotic primaries (and in this category I would put challenges to Nancy Pelosi or Steny Hoyer) and/or a dissipation of efforts by trying too many primaries, especially against incumbent Dems.  We also don't need primaries that aren't backed by local progressive activists.

So let's be strategic and identify a short list of incumbents to take a hard look at, an even shorter list of no more than 3-5 exemplary primaries to get behind (including Donna Edwards), plus a solid list of 20 or so challenges to sitting GOPers or candidates for open seats.

And leave defense of the incumbents to the DCCC, except for those few newcomers who are willing to vote progressive.

John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


"Sustainability" as a foundational principle for the progressive platform (0.00 / 0)
Hi Matt,

A theme that is raised regularly here, on mydd in the past, and throughout the progressive blogosphere is the notion that Democratic leadership ineptitude, and Democratic electoral and policy failures, are tied not to a lack of IDEAS, but to a lack of easily-articulated foundational principles (or values, a la Lakoff) that can tie them all together.  Why do progressives tend to believe in, say, universal health care, unions, gender rights, and environmental protections?  Democrats have often failed to answer using pithy principles, instead resorting to an explanation of each policy and the "good" it will do.

Your suggestion that Christian values are one way to address this problem is one I've heard; we've also tossed around ideas like reclaiming the language of "family values" for the progressive agenda; we've heard about "ethics of care" and "justice" and "fairness" as possible foundational, linguistic, and policy principles for the progressive agenda.

I want to make the case that the growing international and local melange of people, organizations and values that collectively fall under the heading of "sustainability" offer us the BEST possible foundational principle with which to articulate a progressive platform. 

In the past, I've drafted dkos posts on Ten Reasons the Netroots Should Reach Out to Environmentalists (http://www.dailykos....), and  how sustainability issues are fueling potential for a Democratic "Western Strategy" (http://www.dailykos....).  Both of these hint at the idea that sustainability offers a unique set of values - values which can get progressives elected, and then facilitate driving an actual progressive legislative and executive agenda. 

Sustainability can be summed up, I think, by drawing upon three basic concepts: first, that social, environmental and economic considerations are intrinsically intertwined, and that all three must be considered in a Triple Bottom Line to ensure mid- or long-term prosperity for each.  Second and related, is the notion that decisions must be judged according to their impacts on future generations, not only based on those alive to day; it's the idea of inter- and intra-generational equity, or environmental justice.  Third, that the Earth is a place of physical limits, in terms of energy and resources at least, and that these limits must be respected - or even embraced - to ensure human and ecological well-being, as well as ingenuity and innovation. 

It should be pretty easy to imagine how the sustainability meme/frame/value can help Democrats end the Iraq war, or argue for universal health care, or the assistance of unions, or the rights of religious, ethnic, racial and gender minorities, or the need for better-funded educational opportunities, or... I could go on! 

Here are a couple of advantages along these lines:

1) Multi-issue legislative outreach.  The environment is a topic that tangentially interfaces with every other progressive issue.  The environment is about politics and economics.  It's about social justice (feminist, Latino, African-American) issues.  It's about morality (and yes, Matt - religion, including Christianity as you suggested).  And you better believe that it ought to be about good old-fashioned self-preservationist survival! 
I would go so far as to say that environmental sustainability could become a guiding principle of progressivism, along the lines of Chris Bowers' ongoing consideration of the principle of pluralism.  It has this strength as a foundational value precisely because of its multidisciplinary, multi-issue nature.  It is the kind of vision that could form the backbone of a strong, flexible, dynamic party platform. 

2) Ignoring the environment is self-deceptive, if not impossible.  Along related lines to #1: I've been writing for a long time about the mistake (made both by self-identified environmentalists and by others) of conceiving of these concerns as "special interests."  Environmental concerns are EVERYONE'S concerns, and at its core, the environment is, quite simply, EVERYTHING.  Our surroundings, our passions, and our own bodies will always and forever be a part of it.  We cannot, and indeed, should not, seek to escape it.  It is ours- not in terms of ownership, but in terms of identity. 

3) Long-term coalition building.  The netroots is a diverse group of progressives that have come together in recognition of the power of partnership and community, as a means of achieving long-term goals.  In 2005, significant controversy erupted over a provocative paper proclaiming "The Death of Environmentalism".  Authors Shellenberger and Nordhaus called for the "death" of the current environmental movement, so that another (more effective) one might "rise from the ashes."  One of the ways in which the current movement is cited as ineffectual was that it has built "tactical, not strategic" alliances with other progressives- that these have been temporary at best.  This new movement might already be forming, under the mantle of "sustainability."  Many environmentalists have since arrived at similar conclusions, deciding they won't simply "work with" unions, or feminists, or government reformers (or Democrats!) when it's convenient, but must instead be in it for the long haul.  This community is ready for our message of partnership. 

4) Win-win scenarios abound.  It's pretty tough to attack "supporting the environment and sustainability" - which is why everyone says they do, including our president.  In fact, in some surveys, more than 70% Americans self-identify as environmentalists, even if they don't always rank the environment as high on their priority lists as I might hope.  Environmentalists have lost so many battles largely because of a failure to engage in effective framing. 

Thanks for reading, and let me know what you think!


Sustainability and generational morality (4.00 / 1)
Your post reminds me of the saying (I can't remember who said it first) we don't inherit the Earth from our parents, we are borrowing it from our children. 

As for framing, I linked to it above, but here's a bit of messaging that I think is effective.  It's from Glenn Melancon, a candidate running in Sam Rayburn's old district in Northeast Texas:

"Living in a "Red" state, I'm often asked, "Why are you a Democrat?" or "Wouldn't it be easier to win if you were a Republican?" For me the answer is easy. I'm a Democrat because I believe in "we," not "me.""

"Our founding fathers started the Constitution with the word "We" for a purpose. Our individual liberty rests upon how justly we treat those around us. As Martin Luther King said in his Letter from the Birmingham Jail, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.""

"Americans have always been at their best when they have dreamed to create a better world. Dreams alone, however, are not enough. We have to look at the fruits of our dreams. Do they work for the good of all or the privileged few? Am I stepping on my neighbor's back just to get ahead? Am I lifting up my neighbor as I lift up myself?"

"The Democratic Party has been the party of progress for the last 100 years. It's been the party committed to "we"-Social Security, Medicare, Environmental Protections, Children's Health Care, the Minimum Wage, Civil Rights, Energy Conservation, Automobile Safety, Human Rights, the Right to Privacy.""
http://www.dailykos....

Voter Genome Project


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People as machines (0.00 / 0)
The Republican worldview is also an inherently machine worldview, a factory model of society; resistance is futile.

It might seem unserious to bring up the tagline of the fictional Borg. Yet I think that something in people's reaction to it is critical to identifying what it is that so bugs us about the Republican platform, and perhaps a way to make it visible to others. And think about them for a moment, even for people who aren't scifi fans, they're horrifying. They're more awful than if they were just out to kill people, they want to turn them into machine parts for the operation of larger machines.

Colorful as that may be, that's the conservative economic view. Everybody works for the economic machine, and the machine has primacy over the individual, the family, the community, the country and the natural world. That's as ultimately destructive to a more small town, agrarian ideal as it is to the urban creative ideal. We can't live like machines, without time or energy for our families and friends. We can't be full people without enough of our lives and health left to pay attention to our wider society and fight for the things that matter to us.

Machines don't care if they're miserable or if their surroundings are horrible. They don't argue or complain. They don't ask for better wages or dental benefits. They don't care if the food is terrible. That makes them the perfect economic creatures, the perfect model for what the Republican party's corporate masters (not that all the Dems have avoided that taint) want out of all of us.

Sustainability, doing anything more than the bare minimum to grease the gears, is waste in this model. Sustainability is profit not accrued to investment capital. Sustainability is the machines functioning better than they need to in order to do their jobs, and having the option to decide that their jobs don't need doing. Sustainability lifts all boats, while the manager of machines wants to keep the water all to themselves.

The machine logic of neocon economics has coopted religious practices that are meant to be expressions of faith and a personal struggle for self-discipline, along with the separation of inherited and personal identity that goes along with secular culture, and used these as a way to atomize problematic social obligations and regiment whatever remains for the sake of maximum profit. Without the heart of what makes either way of life good, and ultimately mutually beneficial, we're left shadowboxing with monsters wearing our neighbors' faces, with the Borg.

There won't be any progress whatever if we can't shake the dialogue out of that paradigm.


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Engage liberal Christians and you'll establish a national majority (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps we should start explicitly setting ourselves up against the culture of greed and militarism, profit and markets, and for the good life and a set of moral values involving community, humility, and justice.

Yes. It cannot happen as a solely political cultural phenomenon. Political changes follow electoral cycles. Real political change will occur when cultural shifts occur in the larger society. When that happens it will happen as a global cultural phenomenon.

It is not a political war we are engaged in. It is a culture war, a war for the very future of global civilized society.

The political blogosphere has been and remains a bellwether of this change.

The global culture is moving to the left, but it is largely happening outside the U.S. Inside the U.S., the game is rigged. Those institutions that have historically been the most liberal and progressive now operate in the service of corporate greed and militarism. University endowments are comprised of stock portfolios, research is based on government grants and professors are quiet and uncomplaining as a result. The same is true for religion. And even art, the most dissident and subversive of social institutions, has contributed very little to the voice of progressive change. Money, greed and fear seem to driving every cultural institution at this point within the U.S.

What I am saying is that the political blogosphere has to find a way to partner and to collaborate with other traditionally progressive institutions such as (liberal) religion, education, publishing (i.e., media) and the arts.


Primary Challenges (0.00 / 0)
The simple answer to Matt's question is no - the appetite for primary challenges is pretty low. I am a big fan of Donna Edwards, but it is worth remembering that she has a long history of being a progressive funder, so that she has been visible among progressives, and more particularly, progressives with money, for many years.  And we can hardly arrange for thugs on the payroll of the corrupt incumbent to attack our volunteers on camera just before debates on a regular basis.

This tells me that a successful challenger has to have an equivalently deep set of roots in the district.  I wonder if Progressive Majority would be excited or concerned if their great candidates started running against conservative Democrats at the Congressional level?

Primary challenges always have to be compared to knocking off Republican incumbents in terms of the cost and effort of adding to progressive voices in Congress.  The McNerney victory over Pombo was magnificent, but surely the total cost was over $3 million and tens of thousands of volunteer hours. Even a small proportion of that would have put Edwards over the top.

I would like to see someone pull together the relative costs of defeating Republican incumbents versus primary challenges for Bush Dog Democrats (great phrase Matt).

I suspect that a strategy of running progressive challengers with even modest funding would have a great impact on the votes of the Bush Dogs even if all the challengers lost.

In any case, with my donor hat on, it is always more enjoyable to fund insurgents. They tend to actually care about policy matters and have not yet been beaten down by the pacs and incumbent consultants.

 


Primaries / Liberal Critique (4.00 / 1)
Matt,

One of the biggest criticisms that Democrats make of their representatives is that our elected leaders are afraid to stand up for what they believe in. It sounds from your post like most of the activists have precisely the same problem. Both are too afraid of losing and too afraid of Republicans to actually act on their beliefs. Truthfully, I can't say I am surprised that our leadership actually reflects our constituents and vice versa.

You are correct that primary challenges are the one of the only meaningful ways to affect change. Your comments suggest a willingness to embrace a more radical critique of American society...one that has long been embraced by those further to the left than you.

There is no doubt in my mind right now that the liberal movement in this country is in the very early stages of a period of intense radicalization, initiated by the Republican Revolution, accelerated by the Bush administration, exacerbated by the failure of the Democratic leadership, and soon to be enflamed by the disastrous results of decades of bad policies, corruption, abuse of power, and both micro and macro level institutional decay. Our elected leaders and the American people are equally at fault. Surely you can see how this is the case, given the reluctance of even the hard-core activists to embrace one of the only tools for change.

I don't have any brilliant suggestions for you about what to do about this. And believe me, I share your frustration...a frustration which seems to be growing with each passing day. All I can say is that the basic problem you have pointed to is much bigger than you or me, it's as big as the country itself, and that it's probably going to get a lot worse before it gets better.


It's not just Democrats, it's all voters (0.00 / 0)
"One of the biggest criticisms that Democrats make of their representatives is that our elected leaders are afraid to stand up for what they believe in."

Last cycle, I talked to thousands of people.  When I talked about shipping jobs overseas, they blamed Bill Clinton.  You can't asked workers to remain loyal to you, if you turn around and stab them in the back.

Fighting for Texas families

2006,2008 Nominee for US Congress, TX 4th


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Other ideas (0.00 / 0)
1) Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.  If the media can quit being the propaganda outlet of Bushies and the spotlight of those Democrats most eager to break with their party, we;ve taken a giant step forward,

2) Concentrate on winning seats in areas most likely to produce progressive members.  That's NY, NJ, PA (around Philly only), CA, New England (well CT and the Senate seats), and CA.

3)  Change the nature of CA politics to break the Republican use of referenda, term limits, and dirty tricks.  Reinvigorate the CA Democratic Party and get away from the Gary South-Gray Davis legacy of standing for nothing (even if we mostly do the right thing).  It not only limits what is done in CA but it also limits a lot of the drive CA should be lending to the national debate.  In the last 30 or 40 years they've crippled the best public university system in the world, instituted the tax cut uber alles, instituted a policy unfairly benefiting long time residentsd over newcomers, screwed up term limits to make the whole electoral system a carnival ride of rotating offices and scrounging for opportunity, etc. etc., etc.

4) Break the fake limits on legislative power including signing statements and the constant fillibuster without a fillibuster that makes 60 rather than 51 the new "majority."  It's outrageous.  Mitch McConnell,m should be hung in effigy all around the country and those enablers who pretend moderation need to be featured with him.

5)  Get 270 votes in the House, the White House, and 60 votes in the Senate.  It only applied in four eras over the last century and they were awfully productive: 1933-39, 1965-67 and 1977-79.  What happened to Carter?  The oil crisis and hyper-inflation (slow growth is always Ok with republicans as long as inflation is low.

6) Economic poplism can be productive.


PDA (& Matt) did it last time around (0.00 / 0)
I like the Bush Dogs challenges, but I would note that Matt stood pretty much alone for most of last year, as the Progressive Democrats of America (www.pdamerica.org), which grew out of the Kucinich and Dean campaigns of '04, took on several House primary challenges without much help.  First Cegelis in IL; then Winograd vs. Harman in CA; then Edwards in MD-4.  PDA & Stoller were pretty lonely, in D.C. and in the blogosphere.
Even Donna Edwards wonderful challenge, the best-supported of the group, only attracted support from the biggest bloggers and the big progressive groups near the end--and Emily's List never did endorse her!
(Indeed, even after her strong race last time, Emily's List has refused to endorse Donna Edwards so far this time, too!  I remain convinced that this could be a good project for OpenLeft, similar to Chris's effort to get the Dems to kick in from their safe campaign treasuries last year--to push Emily's List to support the most progressive woman running--an African-American lawyer/funder, a leader on domestic violence issues, and a progressive on every issue that we can think of--running against a man from a very safe district who supported the war and voted for a variety of bad economic issues.)

A new radical moral anti-materialist argument ... (0.00 / 0)
Is being made by Michael Lerner who started an interfaith group to challenge the right-wing dominance of the religious voice--
He preaches about a "new bottom line" often.
http://www.spiritual...
It sounded quite radical at first, but it really makes more sense than anything else.

I am also strongly in favor of a full slate of progressive candidates challenging Democrats throughout the country.
If we are out there we can try to force the debate to be about democratic values, and that will get the silent corporate Democrats to have to speak up and commit themselves ... it whould push people to define their values, and it should reinvigorate the democratic process whether our candidates win or lose.  It's not about "liberal" or conservative" -- as much as about speaking out about the values we care about and forcing a discussion, forcing the candidates to say what they stand for besides the "contribution" money games.



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