Department of Solving Problems Using the Same Thinking Used To Create Them

by: Daniel De Groot

Sat Mar 21, 2009 at 14:40



From the four five and counting active quick hits on this, I think we need to have a thread on "the plan" from the Obama Administration to address the banking crisis leaked to the media last night.  Here's a round up of reactions.

Krugman Part 1:


The Obama administration is now completely wedded to the idea that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the financial system - that what we're facing is the equivalent of a run on an essentially sound bank. As Tim Duy put it, there are no bad assets, only misunderstood assets. And if we get investors to understand that toxic waste is really, truly worth much more than anyone is willing to pay for it, all our problems will be solved.

James K. Galbraith:


If I'm right and the mortgages are largely trash, then the Geithner plan is a Rube Goldberg device for shifting inevitable losses from the banks to the Treasury, preserving the big banks and their incumbent management in all their dysfunctional glory. The cost will be continued vast over-capacity in banking, and a consequent weakening of the remaining, smaller, better- managed banks who didn't participate in the garbage-loan frenzy.
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Krugman 2:  The Depressioning

But Treasury is still clinging to the idea that this is just a panic attack, and that all it needs to do is calm the markets by buying up a bunch of troubled assets. Actually, that's not quite it: the Obama administration has apparently made the judgment that there would be a public outcry if it announced a straightforward plan along these lines, so it has produced what Yves Smith calls "a lot of bells and whistles to finesse the fact that the government will wind up paying well above market for [I don't think I can finish this on a Times blog]"

Yves Smith:


Dear God, the Administration really thinks the public is full of idiots. But there are so many components to the program, and a lot of moving parts in each, they no doubt expect everyone's eyes to glaze over.

CalculatedRisk:


With almost no skin in the game, these investors can pay a higher than market price for the toxic assets (since there is little downside risk). This amounts to a direct subsidy from the taxpayers to the banks.

Jeffrey Sachs:


[...]The stalemate over banking has arisen because the economics team has been unwilling to take on the bank shareholders and management. It now reportedly plans to clean up the banks' assets through a new alliance of hedge funds and taxpayer dollars. That simply won't happen. The public won't tolerate such games for another round. The public won't accept more money going into financial bailouts until the banks are clearly being run for public benefit, not for the private gain of undeserving shareholders, management, and traders. America will not right itself until it regains a moral compass in economic affairs.

The closest I could find to a positive reaction from someone credible in economics is bonddad at DailyKos:


The central problem with this plan is the central problem with all plans dealing with the bad assets: will the banks be willing to sell and at what price?  There is no guarantee anyone will be willing to sell or buy at a rate the market would like.  I think this plan has an OK chance of working, but that is hardly a ringing endorsement.  

Oh, almost forgot Duncan Black:


We are so screwed.

Yep, that about covers everyone I know about whose opinions on economics I have any confidence in.  Maybe Jerome a Paris or Ian Welsh will weigh in later.

My only comment to add is to note the stupidity of trying to get something like this out the door in the Friday news dump.  Does the FND really work so well for huge policy announcements?  I figure you can sneak by a second tier resignation or arcane regulation changes without enduring too much heat, but did they really think they could sneak Eat-The-Shitpile-Version 12.5 past the voters this way?

Anyway, discuss the plan, and please be civil.  Remember, the Zero rating is not meant for "You are wrong."  


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"So it's just horrifying that Obama - and yes, the buck stops there - has decided to base his financial plan on the fantasy that a bit of financial hocus-pocus will turn the clock back to 2006." (4.00 / 11)
from Krugman part 2.

1. We vastly overpay these companies for worthless shit.
2. We then pay them again to "buy" the worthless shit from us and ensure they can't lose money on the purchase.
3. We pay them to administer and run all of this at the same time.

It's beyond criminal -- it makes the planeloads of cash we sent to Iraq look like pennies in a jar.


If true (4.00 / 2)
The Obama administration is now completely wedded to the idea that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the financial system

then you better make sure your passport is up to date.


Fuck that (0.00 / 0)
If you screw this up, the rest of us will be hurting for years.

Our City of London/realisation that we killed all our manufacturing-fueled hangover is likely to be Europe's longest, but if the US undergoes stagflation or a further nose-dive then Europe in general will be feeling the pain, the former Eastern bloc will be back to the bad old days of circa 1993, South America and east Asia could face another round of defaults, China will see its industrialisation set back a decade and with investment drying up Africa could see things get as bad as it's been there since Belgium nationalised the Free State.

Solve this one. Or invest heavily in Canadian flag patches.

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note too -- it does an end-run around Congress -- intentionally. (4.00 / 8)
Obama/FDIC/Fed/Treasury don't have to get approval for this.

Where are Democrats in the House and Senate (0.00 / 0)
on this? Are they all just deferring to the White House?  

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Ha! (4.00 / 4)
Glad something like this was #2 on my to-do list.  Always nice to have someone else scratch something off for me.

Say, isn't that the whole philosophy of this plan from Wall Street's POV?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


I kept expecting (0.00 / 0)
To hit refresh on the FP and find you had beat me to it.

[ Parent ]
The Emperor's new clothes! (4.00 / 2)
What a lovely bailout plan you've made, Mr. Geithner! What gorgeous fabric, how beautifully cut...

Duncan's right. We are so screwed.


this is Paulson's plan, repackaged as another "private/public partnership" -- remember that everytime we hear that phrase used -- (4.00 / 4)
this is what it means for Obama.

[ Parent ]
Public-private partnership is a trigger word (4.00 / 3)
It's like privatisation, except that when they fuck up and run out of the money, they don't have to come and ask to be bailed out, because we've left the cash spigot on.

That's what it meant before the crash, that's what it means now even more. We started hearing that in the early part of this decade, because 'privatise' got too hated but they still wanted to sell off government functions to private companies who would do the job worse for more money.

It's gotten to the stage that just hearing the word makes me want to punch a Labour cabinet minister.

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[ Parent ]
More of the "we are so screwed" meme (4.00 / 5)
From Taibbi's Rolling Stone Piece "The Big Takeover"
But before you even finish saying that, they're rolling their eyes, because You Don't Get It. These people were never about anything except turning money into money, in order to get more money; valueswise they're on par with crack addicts, or obsessive sexual deviants who burgle homes to steal panties. Yet these are the people in whose hands our entire political future now rests.

Good luck with that, America. And enjoy tax season.

That's the irony. This is coming during tax season.  I feel like I'm in one of those medieval movies where I'm in line with all the peasants as we make our way to the lord's treasurer to give him our weekly tax of eggs, bushels of wheat, and our daughters for his pleasure.

They are laughing as we send in our tax returns and rolling their eyes at us... the great unwashed taking a bath.


[ Parent ]
Link to Taibbi Rolling Stone piece (4.00 / 3)
http://www.rollingstone.com/po...

Check out his interpretation of what is going on with Bernanke and the Fed.  Scary stuff.  

And there are still no regulators on board are there?  Is all this being over seen still by the little bitty Office of Thrift Supervision?  Is only Elizabeth Warren looking out for us?  Because nobody in the White House is.


[ Parent ]
don't send your taxes in (4.00 / 2)


[ Parent ]
Too late (0.00 / 0)
they owe me. Go figure.

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[ Parent ]
Paulsonism is the New Rubinism. (4.00 / 6)
Matt Taibbi on what has been created by the banksters.
In fact, most of Geithner's early moves reek strongly of Paulsonism. He has continually talked about partnering with private investors to create a so-called "bad bank" that would systemically relieve private lenders of bad assets - the kind of massive, opaque, quasi-private bureaucratic nightmare that Paulson specialized in. Geithner even refloated a Paulson proposal to use TALF, one of the Fed's new facilities, to essentially lend cheap money to hedge funds to invest in troubled banks while practically guaranteeing them enormous profits.

God knows exactly what this does for the taxpayer, but hedge-fund managers sure love the idea. "This is exactly what the financial system needs," said Andrew Feldstein, CEO of Blue Mountain Capital and one of the Morgan Mafia. Strangely, there aren't many people who don't run hedge funds who have expressed anything like that kind of enthusiasm for Geithner's ideas.



To me the question that now arises is: (0.00 / 0)
how do we get out of this policy mess?

Do we have to wait for it to be implemented and fail?

Can the sheer weight and scope of criticism before its implementation result in a pullback of the policy?

I'm guessing that we will simply have to wait for its implementation and failure. The first impulse of the Obama WH when it comes to "issues" with significant policy that it proposes appears to be to double down on its policy and lash out at its critics any way it can (suggesting they are demagogues is the latest in the series, though it would be hard to make that stick against, say, Krugman).

I certainly don't see any way of pulling back on the policy, though, without firing Geithner; the policy and the man are now forever linked.

Fact is, though, that that policy will fail, and so the man must go. It is only a question of time and damage done.

Maybe Obama will fire him earlier rather than later. But I really wonder. I have to say that my impression of him and his entire WH team is that they all believe in their hearts that everything is manageable by sufficient spin. It may be a product in part of his legal background. Lawyers, unlike, say, economists or scientists or engineers, really do seem to see every issue as open to debate, and winnable with clever argument.

But that is not how economic fact operates. It is what it is. Spin affects it only at the margins -- if, indeed, at all.  


you try to get strong independent voices to highlight this (4.00 / 8)
1. The Daily Show
2. MSNBC Talking Heads
3. People like Krugman
4. Amy Goodman
and so forth.

This is a media war - if you win the media war, you win the policy war, because it is only really really bad media that's going to open the door for enormous numbers of people's already existing outrage to pour out into congressional phone calls.  And it will generate its own stories as well. Finally, even if you lose, you've realigned the politics in the country ever so slightly (i.e. hopefully this will be the last trillion dollars they get...since i keep waiting, and they keep coming up with another trillion funded through debt - do they think they can just print money forever?)

So the first step - to produce a really boiled down simple way of talking about the plan that's still accurate - maybe is done or maybe has some work to do.  The second step is making sure that all of those people pay attention to that story, and many others who will go with the flow (like CNN).  It can easily be tied into other stories like AIG that have legs.  And from there, all of a sudden there will be a perception of an enormous public "outcry" (which in fact exists, in potential), which will then scuttle the plan hopefully, or perhaps change it substantially.  Ideally it would get rid of Geithner and force Obama to replace him with someone who has different interests.

Who was it that was saying that appointments didn't matter?  


[ Parent ]
None of them will touch Obama though. So you (4.00 / 7)
can try to isolate Geithner, Summers, Romer, etc from Obama but ultimately it won't work if he keeps defending them.  He either believes them or is in on it. Neither one makes him look good.  And I haven't seen anybody except Amy Goodman willing to do battle with this crony capitalist system and its latest pitch man.

[ Parent ]
well it's a battle of discourse (0.00 / 0)
so if you start with the people who get ignored / laughed at but are taken more seriously now than they were a few weeks ago (you can appeal to "authorities" too like roubini or krugman- i don't know what roubini's saying about this) and you raise the political cost for keeping geithner.  Then having created the space for that opinion, it becomes a "debate" in the mainstream media, which is easily won.

I think this is good because if you target obama at this early stage, 1) i think it will backfire and 2) it's not actually fair and not in the interests of taking over his brand.  

i think, whereas if you target geithner and summers, you focus on what the objection in the battle between the big tent.  i think it's not a question of whether it's winnable but how quickly it will be won and how much more damage will be done if it takes too long (similar to the rumsfeld battle).  The note that Paul had in one of his recent posts about opportunity costs is right on - this enormous amount of money is eventually going to come back to haunt us because it is the formalization of a massive redistrbution of wealth - it's much easier to argue against bonuses and bank bailouts than it is to argue for higher taxes in american politics, even on the rich (though hopefully that will shortly change).

but this is just one idea - it doesn't sound totally right to me, but i think discussions like this which then someone(s) pick up on and implement would be tres useful :)


[ Parent ]
They won with spin and tons of cash from the (4.00 / 2)
banksters and other disaster capitalists.  They believe that they are invincible and soooo much smarter and more cunning than anybody else. No, they aren't smarter than Stiglitz, Galbraith, Krugman, Roubini, Hudson, and most of us here, but they are much more willing to weasel. You have to have lack of a moral compass to pull all this off, not brains.  They didn't call it the JP Morgan Mafia for nothing.  


[ Parent ]
Better connections (0.00 / 0)
These people are not smarter but they have better connections and are a lot smoother.  That produces salesmen and hucksters at the highest level.

[ Parent ]
Let me see if I understand this plan (4.00 / 9)
If I follow correctly, the plan flows through the following steps:

1. stuff
2. shit
3. more stuff
4. confusing shit
5. Taxpayers give tons of money to the banks.


Yeah, it's called the "black box" concept (4.00 / 1)
...in engineering.  Rather than analyze the exact workings of every last wire and gear, you just draw a box around the part and figure that total inputs = total outputs.

In this case.  Inputs = banks with too little cash plus tax dollars (and dollars printed by Fed = inflation)

Output = banks have more money, and other Wall St. fund managers make a bundle.  Draw your own conclusions on what happens to tax dollars.


[ Parent ]
speaking of black boxes (4.00 / 1)
If you haven't already seen it, you would probably enjoy this from Wired Magazine; Recipe for Disaster: The Formula That Killed Wall Street.  A black box in the form of a Gaussian copula function.

[ Parent ]
Yes, read the Wired article and (4.00 / 1)
here is Taibbi's take on the "Formula That killed Wall St.
"The banks knew they were selling crap," says a London-based trader from one of the bailed-out companies. To get AAA ratings, the CDOs relied not on their actual underlying assets but on crazy mathematical formulas that the banks cooked up to make the investments look safer than they really were. "They had some back room somewhere where a bunch of Indian guys who'd been doing nothing but math for God knows how many years would come up with some kind of model saying that this or that combination of debtors would only default once every 10,000 years," says one young trader who sold CDOs for a major investment bank. "It was nuts."


[ Parent ]
6. American Idol finals (0.00 / 0)


"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
and of course -- "Obama aides are focusing on recrafting the Senate (bonus) bill so, at the least, it won't discourage firms from participating" (4.00 / 3)
Obama Seeks to Soften the Punitive Legislation-- http://online.wsj.com/article/...

... Obama aides are focusing on recrafting the Senate bill so, at the least, it won't discourage firms from participating in a separate federal effort to unlock credit markets -- a consumer-lending program known as the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility, or TALF. They also fear scaring off investment firms they need to help in a future public-private partnership to purchase from banks mortgage-backed securities and other toxic assets.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the legislation would ultimately be judged by two standards: whether the bills appropriately reflect "taxpayer anger and frustration," and whether they maintain "our ability to stabilize the financial system and ensure that credit flows from banks and lending institutions to families and small businesses and big businesses."

Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair also raised concerns about imposing new compensation limits. "You need to have flexibility to reward people who add value," she said. "Some talent is better than others, and some people do need to be better compensated."

...



Do you want to simply punish people... (0.00 / 0)
...or do you want economic recovery?  If you want the latter, then some bad people will not be punished.... if you are happy with the economy the way it is, then go ahead and keep punishing bad people.  'Cos unless you overthrow the capitalist system entirely and replace it with a communist one or something else, you are going to have to throw the rich a bone even if they don't deserve it.

Unfortunately, capitalism is based on greed, and channeling greed will be necessary to get us out...

If a banker getting a bonus means that 100 of my neighbors get good jobs, I'll let him have his candy.... I'm not out for revenge, but for recovery, and that's going to take money being opened up... and there is really no way of opening up money that will not "reward" people that don't deserve it... not even "nationalization".. believe me... some people will find a way to profit off of that, too....

These guys are scum... they act in bad faith... but, unfortunately we need them... reforming 250 year old institutions isn't going to happen overnight, and we need jobs now.  They can get their ransom, as far as I'm concerned, if it means opening up the job market and returning to economic prosperity...

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[ Parent ]
Greed. (4.00 / 10)
Read the Sachs piece.  He doesn't agree.


The great scholars of capitalism, from Adam Smith to John Maynard Keynes, understood full well that a functioning economic system depends not on greed, but on moral sentiments and an acceptable social contract between the rich and the rest of society. The rich can make money, of course, but they must not flaunt it or consume it frivolously. Instead, they must invest their wealth for social benefit, whether in business or in philanthropy, or in both as in the case of history's most celebrated capitalist-philanthropists, from Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller to Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. It is only the dangerously arrogant rich or the servants of the rich who believe that morals don't matter in the great matters of finance.

You think we can't fix this if we meddle too much with greed.  I don't think we can fix this without fixing greed.


[ Parent ]
Good point... (4.00 / 2)
But I worry that people so want to burn the banks down, that they forget that their job and lifestyle is dependent on these banks to loan out money to fund the economy.  It's easy to hate banks... It's easy to hate taxes, too, but everyone agrees its necessary...

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[ Parent ]
no -- they're not dependent, and in fact we are always harmed by these companies -- (4.00 / 1)
these companies reward and/or punish based on jobcuts and outsourcing and other things that they force companies to do to show quarterly profits and share price rises.

our jobs are harmed by these companies -- when they downgrade a stock, we get hurt.

when they recommend a stock bec of "cost-cutting" we get hurt.

when they force us into bankruptcy, we get hurt.

when they sell shit mortgages, we get hurt.

when they buy congresspeople and write our laws, we get hurt.

...


[ Parent ]
This Really Isn't The Case (4.00 / 10)
After the Great Depression, it took a good two decades for the financial system to fully recover, prior to which we saw the emergence of the biggest, broadest middle class ever seen in history.  The Dow didn't reach 1929 levels until 1954, by which time tens of millions of Americans had become the first in their families to ever own their own homes.  If anything, it was the rise of this new middle class that helped the banks & stock market recover, not the other way around.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
it's not the banks that lend your neighborhood business money that this is for -- (4.00 / 1)
this is all about the few giant banks/investment firms -- and the many hedge fund and private equity firms, that take over other firms simply to slash and burn and then sell for a profit (see Cerberus and Autos, for instance, and Carlyle Group, etc).

[ Parent ]
Two credit unions were shut down by the FDIC yesterday... (0.00 / 0)
Credit unions!

All the banks are hurting... even the good ones..

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[ Parent ]
THOSE credit unions weren't good ones (4.00 / 3)
They were commercial credit unions up to their nose hairs in bogus MBS. Real credit unions are actually having a fit right now over having to pay for those bailouts via dues (although I don't see any way out.)

The bonus tax is punitive, but we want receiving government help to require punitive help, especially when the help is being given away so freely.

I agree we need lending, but I think the way to do it is via the Fed "alphabet soup" approach of lending money on loan collateral. We could, if we wished, have a healthy lending rate with the banks reduced to almost no capital and effectively acting as loan agents for the Fed.  


[ Parent ]
government should not be in the business of rewarding greed -- it's supposed to work for US. (4.00 / 2)
it's not hard to understand.

these private companies should fail, go bankrupt, or get swallowed up by others -- that's what they do to other companies, after all.


[ Parent ]
...and government is supposed to stamp out greed? (4.00 / 1)
Good luck with that!

[ Parent ]
Not Stamp Out, Just Curb (4.00 / 1)
The argument you're suggesting was used to disparage the Abolitionists, too.  So I wouldn't be quite so quick to deploy it, if I were you.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
And racism still exists... (0.00 / 0)
150 years after slavery was abolished...

Government cannot change human nature...

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[ Parent ]
Yes, it can (4.00 / 3)
Government cannot control human nature. It can certainly change it.

Since we're using race relations as an example, how about this: How many people in polite society who use the word nigger without shame or hesitation?

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[ Parent ]
Both/And, mike (0.00 / 0)
Both/And, Lord.

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
Maybe They Can Vote On Whether To Pay Their Taxes (4.00 / 1)
You know, that way, it's more like a Nudge, as Cass Sunstein would say.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
they already don't pay -- neither the corps nor the rich. (4.00 / 1)
and that too is always fine with our officials, tragically.

[ Parent ]
it's purely a coincidence, too, that Goldman & others have been buying up "distressed debt" to get "private equity-like returns" too. (4.00 / 1)
Not.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4b1a... --

Goldman Sachs is asking investors in its $15bn private equity fund for approval to shift much of its remaining uninvested money into distressed debt ...

In recent months, many private equity firms have quietly shifted their focus to buying debt at a discount as they are unable to pay for acquisitions with cheap flexible debt as they could during the boom years. Goldman is now seeking to do likewise.

"Given the dislocation we are facing in the credit markets, we believe the ability to achieve private equity-like returns at an even more senior position in the capital structure provides a significant opportunity for the fund," the bank told investors. ...



I think the idea is (4.00 / 4)
that since we've dug ourselves so deep into the hole already, all we need to do is dig our way through the entire Earth and we'll come out on the antipodal side.

If you ignore the fact that you have to dig through thousands of miles of molten rock, it's a pretty good idea.


Yes, But (0.00 / 0)
You think all that molten rock is a bug.  They're pretty damn certain it's a feature.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

[ Parent ]
China? (0.00 / 0)
"our way through the entire Earth and we'll come out on the antipodal side. "

Isn't that what has already happened vis - a - vis the US debt load?  

"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


[ Parent ]
I'm too depressed to write coherently about this (4.00 / 6)
Every other week, the Fed throws another trillion or so at the - wrong - problem (we're above 10 trillion, at last count) and it's yet more money wasted.

I've been reading a book this afternoon about the buildup to the Iraq war, and you see the same kind of reckless disregard for facts to push ideas that benefit a very small number of people at the expense of everybody else. It's depressing that it's happening a second time, and that the Serious People are almost all still wrong.

The Taibbi article (linked above) is one of the best descriptions of the whole thing, so go read it.


Obama's becoming the anti-FDR (4.00 / 3)

 When FDR took over, he prioritized improving the lives of ordinary Americans hit by the Depression. Anything else -- including propping up banks -- was secondary and incidental to his primary goal. He approached policy from the "how do we fix people's lives?" perspective, and THEN got to work.

 Obama's doing the opposite -- he's prioritizing propping up the banks over everything else. Anything that relates to improving people's lives is secondary and incidental.

 And I thought we'd elected a Democrat.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


The Die Is Cast (0.00 / 0)
Krugman is usually right, but he'd better not be infallible, because we're stuck with this plan. (It's not like Geithner even has a functioning staff to change it.)

The Obama administration seems to be calculating that they--along with Bernanke at the Fed--can use other means to make the "toxic waste" less toxic by fixing the housing market. I think they may be right, but who knows?

I'm a die-hard Hillary fan (she was making great sense on the housing bubble a long time ago), but Obama has spoken. We're all swimming in the same shitty economic stream, and we have to make the best of it--which means toning down the anti-Wall Street rhetoric.

They're our partners.



Accountability. Transparency. (4.00 / 1)
Two words.

1. Accountability.

2. Transparency.

What's been lacking with the bailouts from the beginning.

What is why Jamie Galbraith's SHOW ME THE LOAN TAPES is the way forward.

Not a penny to the banksters 'til they show us the loan tapes -- that is, the data that backed up the transactions. Because (a) that's is a big step forward on the valuation issue, and (b) if the bubble was driven by fraud, that's the first place it would show up.

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  


Since it's tax time, one thinks of a tax strike (0.00 / 0)
Of course, nobody could really advocate that; I'm not even sure it's legal.

Worse, it's a winger frame.

But what other leverage do we have?

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  


Time to roll the dice (0.00 / 0)
This is uncharted territory. Never been here before, no matter how familiar it might look on occasion and from particular perspectives. Nope. Time for faith and luck.

Chaos is your friend. It evens the statistics and makes outcomes that once seemed unlikely, appear more probable.


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     ...but its right."


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