Why No One Believes What Democrats Say

by: Chris Bowers

Mon Mar 30, 2009 at 06:00


Quite a few bloggers, myself included, have piled on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for siding with Evan Bayh's "moderate working group" at the expense of the progressive wing of the party. However, he actually made a far more damaging statement about Democrats in general last Friday. It is a perfect example of why the Democratic Party is often perceived as a bunch of valueless, finger in the wind, pushovers (emphasis mine):

Reid has no qualms about the group, and said that "any public statements" Senate moderates have made have been helpful as the chamber takes up a budget next week that would cost more than $3 trillion. And he added: "Some people of course go to those meetings so they can issue a press release back home that'll make them appear more moderate."

This is just about the worst thing a Democrat can say. Hell, it is one of the worst things a politician can say. Here is a different way of phrasing that sentence: of course I don't actually believe in the values of this group to which I belong-I just joined the group to trick the rubes back home into thinking that I believe in those values.

It is absolutely, utterly soulless and elitist. It is, also, the fundamental problem with DLC, moderate Democrat speak. Instead of actually just taking a stand for center and center-right beliefs, moderate Democrats are constantly couching their policy positions in terms of electability. It is the fundamental reason whyy so many people don't think Democrats believe what they say. Democrats keep saying, in public, that the only reason they support certain positions is to trick people into thinking that they are moderate. It is just bizarre, and it happens all the time.

The regularity of statements like these from Democrats as prominent as Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, Steny Hoyer and many, many others make it virtually impossible to tell if the behavior of the Democratic leadership is determined by beliefs or by a desire to get elected. Seriously--when the Democratic Senate leader says something like this, is it even still possible to make that distinction?

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evan bayh to the tee (4.00 / 2)
i live in indiana. evan believes in nothing but evan. i am a pro gun progressive. evan used to be endorsed by the nra, when he was a state politician. when he went to washington, he throw us under the bus. i don't care if you approve of guns or not, but the least a pol can do is stay bought. don't let evan get you near the bus. don't give him any money. the sad part is he doesn't have to do this to get reelected. sad. thank you. breid  

moderates (4.00 / 5)
have no core values, thats why they are called moderates, they adjust with the wind or popular opinion in most cases, if a politician can't stand to be labeled either left or right they probably shouldn't be in office, no soul no seat.

hightower (0.00 / 0)
i lurv jim hightower's comment:  there's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

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What he says seems true (4.00 / 5)
I don't know why he's admitting it public, though.  It's as if some Democratic politicians feel a need to show how clever they are by explaining political reality in a self-defeating fashion.  This is the sort of candid truth that you say off the record to journalists in order to charm them and get them to spin in your direction.

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I think you know the answer to the question ... (0.00 / 0)
The regularity of statements like these from Democrats as prominent as Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, Steny Hoyer and many, many others make it virtually impossible to tell if the behavior of the Democratic leadership is determined by beliefs or by a desire to get elected.

well .. besides the belief in themselves as Mr./Mrs. Know It All


And that's why even SUPPORTERS... (4.00 / 2)
... have to play 11-dimensional chess to figure out WTF is going on -- even assuming the best will in the world on the part of the Dem leadership, which of course I don't/

I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch -- AND I WILL BE HEARD.  

Merchandising (4.00 / 1)
After the banking and insurance industries, the biggest "business" in the US is the government. It is run by plotting, conniving, and self-aggrandizing professionals who market rhetorical ideas and populist lingo that sells best with the public on any given day. The politicians have long since forgotten that they are elected to serve the public good, but now work only to serve themselves and guarantee their own continuance of paychecks, perks and celebrity. Reid and Boehner are perfecting the art of hot air and bluster, the blue dogs are pandering exhibitionists, the democrats are riding the crest of Obamularity and the republicans are staying on the public stage by being as outrageously irrelevant as they can manage: There is not one defensible reason for five Republican governors to refuse money for sustaining the unemployed, among other ongoing atrocities.

The only other show in town is O'Reilly and the over-blown advertising ruse. Think Progress should get a boatload of donations out of this dust-up.

Someone (us!)should tell the politicians to either say something substantive, that makes a difference, or STFU.  


Exactly (0.00 / 0)
so let's reduce the obamalarity some good notches by rightly blaming him for Geitner.  Then they will have to run against him and he will have to make some choices.

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democrats are not progressives (0.00 / 0)
to rely on democrats is a crap shoot....it just depends on where the dice fall.  progressives need to start relying on progressives who wont fold under pressure.

They're are any progressives among the (4.00 / 2)
Democrats, but Obama wasn't one of them, though he pretended to be and milked populism in Ohio and Michigan.

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BTW, why are you playing liberal today (4.00 / 5)
after being antiunion and antiprogressive since forever.

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if every progressive (0.00 / 0)
had the same thoughts, ideas, and beliefs, we would be a bunch of mindless idiots.  I have an issue with unions, not the progressive movement.  

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Glenn Greenwald stated recently in his Jim Webb piece: (0.00 / 0)
People love now to assume the role of super-sophisticated political consultant rather than a citizen demanding actions from their representatives.  Due to the prism of gamesmanship through which political pundits understand and discuss politics, many citizens have learned to talk about their political leaders as though they're political strategists advising their clients as to the politically shrewd steps that should be taken ("this law is awful and unjust and he was being craven by voting for it, but he was absolutely right to vote for it because the public wouldn't understand if he opposed it"), rather than as citizens demanding that their public servants do the right thing ("this law is awful and unjust and, for that reason alone, he should oppose it and show leadership by making the case to the public as to why it's awful and unjust").

isnt this the exact reason this sort of bullshit plays?  the cynical partisans will equate any sort of devilry and pragmatism.  i guess pragmatism has been used as often as the bible to excuse all sorts of mayhem, but its interesting that it never seems to run out of mojo.


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