Obama Squanders A Major Opportunity on Residual Forces

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Sep 12, 2007 at 13:03


Matt and I seem to have the same mind today. See his post on the same subject, just below this one--Chris

Barack Obama is set to make a major foreign policy speech today. While the transcript is currently unavailable, Obama's campaign website is currently linking to this AP Wire story in the Washington Post to, "learn more" about "turning the page in Iraq." From the article:

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling for the immediate withdrawal of all U.S. combat brigades from Iraq, with the pullout being completed by the end of next year.(…)

"The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year _ now," the Illinois senator says.

Obama's ardent opposition to the war has been a central theme of his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, and he has used it to distinguish himself from leading rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. She voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq; Obama was not yet a senator.

Obama was trying to further sharpen that distinction Wednesday, spelling out his views on what the U.S. should do next.

To be blunt, I don't really know how pulling out all combat troops would "sharpen that distinction." At all. As far as I can tell, every single Democrat running for President is talking about removing all combat troops. That is, no one is suggesting that we leave troops in Iraq to continue to police Iraqi streets and actively try to prevent sectarian violence. The focus is typically on counter-terrorism, Iraqi force training, and infrastructure / embassy protection. And it doesn't seem as though Obama has closed the door on that at all:

Although he stopped short of calling for an immediate pullout of all troops, Obama said there should be a clear and certain timetable.(…)

By arguing that only combat brigades should be withdrawn _ there are 20 in Iraq, including five President Bush sent January _ Obama appeared to suggest that other U.S. troops could remain.

Good. I am somewhat relieved that the residual forces issue is starting to get some coverage, even if it comes in paragraphs 18 and 20 of the article. And let me remind everyone that Obama's campaign website is currently providing a huge link to this article in the top center of its welcome page. As such, I can hardly think of a clearer admission that he is proposing leaving non-combat troops in Iraq, to perform some or all of the missions . Actually, I can think of one, from his plan to end the Iraq war:

The plan allows for a limited number of U.S. troops to remain in Iraq as basic force protection, to engage in counter-terrorism and to continue the training of Iraqi security forces.

Obama is really blowing it here. The key differentiation on what to do in Iraq is not how quickly you remove all combat troops, but how many non-combat, residual forces you leave behind. On this front, he still seems to be absolutely identical to Hillary Clinton. A few months ago, she also introduced legislation proposing a removal of all combat troops, with a residual force contingent that does the following:

(1) That a phased redeployment of United States military forces from Iraq has begun, in a manner consistent with any limitations on aid for Iraq for security purposes in effect under section 4, including the transition of United States forces in Iraq to the limited presence and mission of-

(A) training Iraqi security forces;
(B) providing logistic support of Iraqi security forces;
(C) protecting United States personnel and infrastructure; and
(D) participating in targeted counter-terrorism activities.

So, if there is a difference here, it is that Clinton is proposing providing "logistic support" to Iraqi security forces, while Obama is not. That is a very slight differentiation that I do not think is going to move many votes.

Considering that he opposed the war from the start, Obama is a position to really seize the mantle of progressive foreign policy in this campaign. However, he will be unable to do that as long as he continues to favor a significant residual force of at least 40,000 troops that is roughly the equivalent of Clinton's plans. I feel confident that if Obama had chosen this "major foreign policy speech" as an opportunity to truly differentiate himself from Clinton on residual forces, then he would have been in an excellent position to change the campaign. Barack Obama can generate tremendous press, and he would have had an ability like other candidate to make the residual forces issue more prominent in this campaign. He would have been able to position himself as "right on Iraq before the war, and right on Iraq now," with a double differentiation from Clinton. That strikes me as a potentially nomination-securing position for any major candidate to hold in this campaign. However, it seems that he has squandered that opportunity, and has not changed his stance on residual forces. I wonder if, after giving this foreign policy speech, it has grown too late for him to change that position before the start of the primaries now.

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I don't think residual forces play as big a political role as you say (4.00 / 2)
Right now, the debate is over when to begin the withdrawal troops and how quickly to do it. This is the big current debate between Bush/Petraeus and the Democrats on the Hill. So I think that the relevant issue is more what Matt identifies below -- as a Senator, what are you going to do to ensure that any new money gets spent on redeployment?
After that, once the withdrawal starts, the debate will become over just how many troops to leave in Iraq. But right now, that's not what people are talking about -- neither in DC nor in living rooms across the country.

But it will become the issue (4.00 / 2)
The point was that this would have been Obama's chance to draw a clear distinction between himself and Clinton. "Right on Iraq before the war, and right on Iraq now," would be a hugely powerful slogan.

Leaving fewer troops seems like an idea so disingenuous that it approaches insanity. I think it's all about the GOP spin about "not reliving the humiliation of Vietnam". I'd like to know what argument you or Clinton or Obama can make that having far fewer troops in the midst of the civil war could do anything to lessen the damage, cool the factional power struggle, lower US and Iraqi casualties, or make broken Iraq less of a terrorist magnet.

As with Obama's statement on Israel, he's way too smart and knowledgeable not to know better, but is evidently following the advice of consultants to sacrifice straight talk for comforting fog. He really is blowing the credibility of his "different" image.


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shocked, shocked.. (4.00 / 2)
Or -- maybe -- Obama has decided that it would be strategically stupid to leave less than 40,000 troops "in Iraq." Whatever the hell that means(considering that Kurdistan is probably the safest place for American troops in the entire Middle East). And Anbar isn't unsafe, either (at the moment). And none of America's allies in the Middle East will accept Iranian domination of Iraq. If you think Iran's involvement is a Petraeus/GOP-engineered phantom, then you are free to do that, but once you employ enough willful ignorance it becomes prohibitively costly for others to listen to you.

Obama made a pretty huge bet fairly early in the primary season that he would not make promises he couldn't keep. So he didn't go in front of the Detroit automakers and promise to bail them out; didn't go to the "justice lawyers" and promise to expand their latitude for, uh, justice; and didn't pre-poll every union audience to learn exactly which potholes they want filled. Much less go in front of them promising to fill every pothole after a decade of screwing them.

How much that bet pays off will depend on the discernment of the Democratic primary electorate. Will Democratic primary voters weigh Obama's promises against others, taking historical performance ex post election into account, or will it simply compare two paper plans and proclaim them undifferentiable?

Seems like Obama made the wrong bet.


Then he should be making that argument (0.00 / 0)
rather than harping strongly on the combat troops issue, which every democratic candidate for president agrees on, and then adding the bit about residual forces as an asterisk. 

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Obama isn't calling for ALL US forces out of Iraq (0.00 / 0)
I agree with Chris.

Look at what Obama is saying:  he'll keep US combat forces in Iraq for the next 15 months.  If he became President we would be fighting in Iraq through 2009 and into 2010. 

But that's not all - the "combat troops" distinction is highly misleading.  Under Obama's plan as well as HRC's  (and perhaps Edwards), we will have "non-combat" forces in Iraq for years to come - up to 80,000.  These "non-combat" troops will be training Iraqis, operate as strike forces to engage extremists and terrorists, provide security in the green zone and operate our military bases.  In fact, our air force could remain fully deployed in Iraq.  They are not "combat brigades."

The bottom line is Obama and HRC don't have confidence in their own judgment and trust the will of the American public in standing up to the Washington and military establishment on Iraq. They continue to pay heed to the voices in the establishment saying a complete withdrawal will result in chaos in Iraq - as if we don't already have chaos.

The Iraqi government has become dangerously dependent on the US for security.  By keeping tens of thousands of "non-combat troops" in Iraq for years to come this dependency will not be broken.  Moreover, the propaganda advantage the terrorists gain in the Middle East and worldwide from the US occupation of Iraq will continue.

We need to bring every single US soldier out of Iraq - starting now.  Richardson whom I am supporting has made the case for this repeatedly, including in a recent Op Ed in the Washington Post.  See http://www.washingto... tent/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702063. html

The US has become the target in Iraq.  A complete US exit is necessary to bring peace to the county and region.  By remaining we perpetuate the war. That understanding is the fundamental difference between Obama and HRC verse Richardson on Iraq.


Residual force (0.00 / 0)
I believe that Obama has made a mistake and not addressing the residual force issue.

RICHARDSON IS RIGHT. mAYBE eDWARDS WILL COME OUT WITH A PLAN ADDRESSING THE REMOVAL OF RESIDUAL FORCES.

Chris is right to distinguish themselves from Clinton they need to address the residual force issue.


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Obama and residual forces (0.00 / 0)
I think Obama did address this topic - vaguely though.  He said:

We will need to retain some forces in Iraq and the region.

Obama will keep tens of thousands of "residual forces" in Iraq.  They will provide security for Green Zone, operate our air bases, launch strikes against extremists and terrorists and train Iraqi soldiers.  The war will continue - just not with "combat troops."


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Launch Strikes Against Extremist (0.00 / 0)
How the hell do you launch attacks against extremist without combat troops?  Do you see how ludicrous both Obama and Hillary's saying they will remove all combat troops.  If you are going to continue to fight extremist you are saying the war will continue.  If anyone believes different I have a bridge to sell you.  If you are going to end the war you have to end it.  That means bringing everyone home.  If you leave troops to guard the embassy what kind of troops will they be?  I don't think that keeping the US embassy will be an option because in order to protect it the US will have to keep combat troops in the area.  How many will we need to protect the diplomats and the workers who live there?  Richardson is saying he wil leave no risidula forces.  Does that mean we will have no personnel in the US embassy.  If you leave them there without protection they will all die.  I myself think that since we paid so much money for the US embassy we should stay there until the Iraqis kick us out.  I think that that there should be at least 10,000 troops left in Iraq to protect the diplomats and the workers.  I just thought of another problem, how will supplies get to these troops and people living in the embassy?  Will we convoy the supplies in or will we fly the supplies in?  Will our people ever be able to leave the green zone?  These are the real questions that need to be addressed.  Maybe the US should share the embassy with France or Germany or Great Britain and they could supply troops to protect the embassy with the US.  These are just thoughts that go thru my mind.

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On the embassy (0.00 / 0)
Richardson has been clear - if our embassy personnel aren't safe under the protection of the normal marine contingent guarding it, then the embassy goes as well. He's not going to have the mega US embassy serve as the justification for the continued intervention in Iraq.

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OpenLeft squanders opportunity to wait 40 mins for the speech (4.00 / 4)
If it's so important to make a finely detailed analysis of Obama's speech wouldn't it be a good idea to wait for the actual speech instead of parsing the AP report? Maybe Obama linked to it but that doesn't make the wire report the same as the speech. We've been in Iraq 4 years but apparently waiting 40 minutes to get the full transcript is too much to ask.

John McCain

If Obama linked to it (0.00 / 0)
Then it's close enough to the speech. If his own campaign thinks its a close enough approximation of what he said, then it's fair to comment on the article without waiting for the speech, especially since reports on the speech will reach many more people than will actually read or hear the speech

Find a real issue to argue on.

Forgotten Countries - a foreign policy-focused blog


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Linking isn't arguing (0.00 / 0)
Linking isn't arguing unless somehow there is one standard for the netroots and another for campaign websites. If you go by linked and hosted articles and not original material arguments can quickly become twisted like a game of telephone.

Use source material when available. Seeing as this was a post was a critique about a missed opportunity made BEFORE the speech was even given it seems like a reasonable point to suggest that a short wait for the actual speech would have been more credible.

John McCain


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You left out this part of his speech: (4.00 / 2)
... about how to develop a political solution for Iraq:

Iraq needs a new Constitutional convention that would include representatives from all levels of Iraqi society - in and out of government. The United Nations should play a central role in convening and participating in this convention, which should not adjourn until a new accord on national reconciliation is reached."

"The President would have us believe there are two choices: keep all of our troops in Iraq or abandon these Iraqis. I reject this choice... It's time to form an international working group with the countries in the region, our European and Asian friends, and the United Nations.... We should up our share to at least $2 billion to support this effort; to expand access to social services for refugees in neighboring countries; and to ensure that Iraqis displaced inside their own country can find safe-haven.

With a political solution and peace, NO troops will be necessary.

I don't know why you left this part of your speech out of your diary, or why you don't mention that Edwards also calls for only combat troops -- and not all troops -- to leave Iraq. It makes me think you care less about getting the policy right and more about scoring points for the Edwards' campaign.

Whatever ... I thought this bit of his speech would help get the discussion back to a policy analysis, and how to work toward a political solution in Iraq.

 


Obama on residual forces (0.00 / 0)
All Combat Troops Redeployed by 2009: Barack Obama would immediately begin redeploying American troops from Iraq. The withdrawal would be strategic and phased, directed by military commanders on the ground and done in consultation with the Iraqi government. Troops would be removed from secure areas first, with troops remaining
longer in more volatile areas. The drawdown would begin immediately with one to two combat brigades redeploying each month and all troops engaged in combat operations out
by the end of next year.

Residual Force to Remain: Under the Obama plan, American troops may remain in Iraq or the region. These American troops will protect American diplomatic and military personnel in Iraq, and continue striking at al Qaeda in Iraq. If Iraq makes political progress and their security forces are not sectarian, we would also continue training other Iraqi Security Forces. In the event of an outbreak of genocide, we would reserve the right to intervene, with the international community, if that intervention was needed to provide civilians with a safe-haven.

This from the Obama PDF linked at this site:

http://thecaucus.blo...

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We're getting trapped in the details of tactics. (4.00 / 2)
What I want in the Democratic candidate is a new strategic approach to foreign policy in general, and Iraq is only one (difficult and important) area. Nit-picking about residual troops is trapping us in details. Who knows what actual the situation will require a year from now; maybe we'll see other opportunities, maybe we'll still be trapped.

This focus on residual troops doesn't provide us with the proper litmus test to determine what the candidates will do given the different possible outcomes.

Partition of Iraq into three regions seems increasingly inevitable, and Kurdistan is already substantially independent. What does "no residual troops" mean if Kurdistan becomes formally separate?

No, I'm more interested in how the Democratic candidates will actually behave in overall foreign policy, even if the next President's hands are tied in Iraq due to decisions presently being made.

Kos quotes from Obama's speech, and his (Obama's) understanding really impressed me:

Conventional thinking in Washington lined up for war. The pundits judged the political winds to be blowing in the direction of the President. Despite - or perhaps because of how much experience they had in Washington, too many politicians feared looking weak and failed to ask hard questions. Too many took the President at his word instead of reading the intelligence for themselves. Congress gave the President the authority to go to war. Our only opportunity to stop the war was lost.

This distinguishes Obama from Hillary.


What residual force means (4.00 / 1)
This isn't just a quibble over numbers, or splitting the difference, but of world view.  Keeping a substantial residual force implies the following goals:

(1)  Trying to direct Iraqi politics through more sophisticated and less U.S.-dead costly methods, with the end result being some kind of puppet regime.
(2)  Maintaining a springboard for war with Iran.
(3)  Keeping a force able that can rapidly deploy to seize oilfields anywhere in the region should that prove necessary to U.S. imperial/corporate aims.

They're not there to paint schools, folks!  Their presence is consistent with a foreign policy that upholds U.S. right to use force to determine the destiny of the Middle East and by extension the world.

There's a world of difference between seeking a multi-lateral world resolving differences peacefully, and upholding U.S. imperial rights while quibbling over tactics.  Obama does the latter.

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I agree with Metadata (0.00 / 0)
Residual forces is not what the general public is all up in arms about.  They want the war in Iraq to end and the troops to start coming home.  But they don't want a catastrophe to ensure in the region.  That seems like the sensible position in support of some residual troops.

And Jeffroby's take on what the residual forces means seems very speculative, and "oldleft" if you will.  Does having residual forces for some amount of time necessarily mean those three things?

Chris & Matt:  how about a full piece explaining why residual forces is THE issue as you both seem to contend?


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It means those things in the real world (0.00 / 0)
You give a loaded gun to a murderer, you may intend for the murderer to use it as a paperweight, but your intention doesn't determine what it actually gets used for.  And you are responsible!

Haven't you read anything about the Beltway foreign policy establishment on OpenLeft?

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