Try him for perjury (0.00 / 0)

I'm so sick of this shit.  You knowingly lie to congress, you go to jail.  That should be the law.  Particularly when you are advocating for laws that are contrary to constitutional law and that can't be challenged in court due to standing issues.

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by: Valatan @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 09:20:24 AM CDT

Thinking of what Digby wrote... (0.00 / 0)

She was talking about the media, but the comment applies equally to our Democratic leadership, who also don't listen to us about this stuff:

If the press can get past their loathing of the dirty hippies for five minutes they will see that not only have we been right, we have been flogging some amazingly good stories for the past six years that had they bothered to report them would have been journalistic coups. We really aren't that nuts --- and the Bush administration really is that bad.

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by: Daniel De Groot @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 09:41:04 AM CDT

Uh,duh, the whole point (0.00 / 0)

of basic rights is that you're entitled to them, regardless of  your access to secret meetings.
  Scary that dem. staffers are putting forth such  ridiculously pompous, here-nor-there arguments.

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by: sb @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 10:29:22 AM CDT

Disgusting (0.00 / 0)

Shame on every single Democrat who rolled over and supported this horror show. These people amaze me by their utter inability to learn from their mistakes. How many times must people like Gonzales, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Petraeus, Goodling, and McConnell lie and distort before they realize that these people CANNOT BE TRUSTED?

I'm angrier at the Dems than I am the Bush brigade because after nearly eight years, we can expect no less than for them to be liars and criminals of the first order. But we elected a Democratic majority to change this, and they've failed us time and again.

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by: MBoz @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 10:36:54 AM CDT

I wish they would learn (0.00 / 0)

Another example is the pro-torture, pro-military tribunals vote last year.  The NJ senators justified by saying that without it, the terrorists would go free. 

Sure enough, a court ruled this year that the law couldn't even be applied to the people in question.  They were totally suckered.
 

New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

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by: Hopeful in NJ @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 13:09:33 PM CDT

Hey Stoller, this is O/T, (4.00 / 1)

but have you seen this or anything like it?

http://agonist.org/b...

It's about cell phone networks that operate peer-to-peer; the signal is transmitted phone to phone to phone to phone until it gets to the target number, instead of going to a centrally controlled cell tower and then tower to tower to tower to the target phone.

It's a fundamentally progressive, networked communications model, as opposed to the fundamentally authoritarian, centralized communications model that is Verizon owning 100,000 towers, and thus controlling all communications and devices that use them.

Since you've expressed a beef with the Verizon Sprint T-Mobile AT&T quadropoly, and the overall shitty level of mobile service we have compared to Europe Korea et al, I thought you might be interested.  It is a fundamentally progressive way of organizing mobile communications, and that is fucking cool.

You seem to have some interesting sources in DC, so maybe you'd heard about this already, I dunno.

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by: texas dem @ Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 13:16:36 PM CDT