Issue Distinctions Not Defining This Presidential Race

by: Mike Lux

Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 13:15


This will be the first in a series of posts over the next few days about my trip to Iowa last weekend.

A trip to Des Moines, especially when it's the Harkin Steak Fry weekend, is a good reality check about the way people make their decisions about politics. Sometimes those of us in national politics are so focused on the candidates' issue positions that we forget that politics is at least as much about things like instinct and passion and charm and fun and eloquence and… well, that indescribable gut feeling people get about candidates.

Take the residual troops issue, a big issue for the OpenLeft.com community. Richardson and lately Edwards, have tried to emphasize their differences between their position and that of Obama and Clinton, but in spite of the overwhelming intensity of all the folks I talked to in terms of their opposition to the war, that issue hasn't gotten through at all. It's going to take a huge effort by Richardson and/or Edwards to make that one sink in, and even then, it's unclear to me whether it overcomes many other factors.

I asked every single person I knew, and quite a few I didn't, why they were supporting the person they were supporting (assuming they had decided on somebody- still quite a bunch of people who haven't, even among the activists at the Steak Fry). Not very many of the answers I got related to where they stood on the issues. People talked about who they trusted the most, who they thought was the most passionate, who they thought had the best experience, who they thought cared the most about regular people, who they thought had the best chance in the general, how smart they were. Many of Hillary's supporters were thrilled at the idea of a woman being President, and a lot of Obama and Richardson supporters mentioned their candidate's background and race as really positive reasons to be for them.

I don't think this is because Iowa activists don't care about the issues- quite the contrary. The people I know in Iowa care very passionately about progressive issues. But the candidates themselves have blurred distinctions on the issues so much that issue differences have receded.

Honestly, if you were given the text of each candidate's speech at the Steak Fry, and just looked at the sections where they discussed the issues, even extremely well-informed people would have trouble figuring out who gave what speech. They all say they want us out of Iraq ASAP. They all want universal health care and think insurance and drug companies have too much power. They all say they are pro-union and want better wages and working conditions. They are all pro-choice, etc. etc. etc. It all sounds the same on the issues. And as Chris Bowers has pointed out here, they are really pretty much the same in most areas. If a candidate wants to break out on some major issue distinction, it's going to take a major lift- a really serious and sustained campaign strategy- to do so.

Given the candidates' own tendencies- highly evident in their speeches on Sunday- to highlight the more personal and background distinctions rather than the issue differences, I would be surprised if this race is decided on the basis of issue differences between the candidates.

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If issues don't matter, then we need to talk about like-ability (0.00 / 0)
So far I agree. But it seems that issues have rarely been the deciding factor in our primaries. I'm not a history expert, but looking back at the last several open nominating contests, I am hard pressed to find ones that hinged on issues. While candidates have certainly campaigned on issues (poverty for Edwards, Iraq for Dean, post-partisanship for Obama, etc), they have done so, more often than not, as a way of defining their values rather than as a wedge against their primary opponents. Perhaps you disagree.

Presidential primaries and elections often hinge on the personality and style of the candidates running.

When picking our party's nominee, the very first thing we should always ask is whether the candidate is basically likeable or affable. If the answer is no, then we are asking to lose the general. If the answer is yes, then we can move on to look at other factors. And let's not forget, higher like-ability easily translates to longer coattails.

On the question of like-ability, Obama and Edwards clearly are the best candidates. Richardson and Dodd are neutral. I have some concerns in my mind about Clinton given her high negatives and the overall level of Hillary-hatred in the country. And I have some very deep worries about Biden, Gravel, and Kucinich, all of whom seem to frequently turn more people off than on just by opening their mouths.

Your point about issues being a non-issue in this primary is well-taken, which is why I'm trying to have an open and honest discussion about everything I said above.


Issues do sometimes drive campaigns, even if not final results. (0.00 / 0)
The war drove Dean's campaign forward in 2003 and made him the frontrunner, forcing the other campaigns to the left. Clinton came back in '92 against Tsongas primarily on the social security issue. Gephardt won the IA caucuses in '88 on the trade issue.
The fact that issues don't seem to be driving the debate this time is, if not unusual, at least pretty noteworthy. And it might still change. 

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Why does this surprise you at all? (0.00 / 0)
It's not 2004 anymore. The candidates all (well, Clinton and Obama anyway) know, to a frighteningly quantified degree, the composition of the Democratic base. They know what each tranche of the base wants to hear, and they know how to say it. There simply isn't the uncertainty fostered by the yawning disconnect of 2004, which was much more stultifying, and which allowed relative unknowns to take huge political risks and reap huge political rewards.

Therefore, on paper, it should be expected that all the candidates are going to sound pretty much the same. If that's the case, which it certainly seems to be, the question for activists isn't about who has the Best Plan for X, because the candidates' relative plans are undifferentiable. The candidates have vastly more detailed polling data than anyone here, and if there were huge political gains to be reaped from taking a radical position, then a candidate would do it. The fact that none is, despite audible frustration with the uniformity of the Plans, means that the candidates simply don't buy the notion that a "no residual forces" plan, for instance, has a proportional political payoff.

Anyone watching the bullshit treatment of Obama over his nukes comment should stand back and ponder what kind of reaction would be instigated by a credible No-residual-forces statement by a relevant, non-Clinton candidate (i.e. Obama). I know Edwards and Richardson are both taken more seriously here, but that is not the case with the broader political class, for enough good reasons that that won't change anytime soon.

So, the current incentive structure encourages uniformity. The decision, then, rests upon how much those paper promises will apply AFTER candidate A is no longer accountable to primary voters, since their promises all sound the same on paper.

So what matters isn't the number of bullets in each respective Multi-Step Solution To Repeal Something Bad. They're all the same. How credible is the given candidate's promise? How well does it square with that candidate's prior record, perceived personal inclinations, conflicts of interest, and political leverage (i.e. margin of victory/ strength of mandate) upon assuming office?

Those are the questions that need to be asked.


Wanna Buy A Bridge? (0.00 / 0)
Your faith in the omniscience and rationality of the campaigns is touching.  Surely someone as astute as you will recognize the tremendous value in this prime piece of infrastrcture...

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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your sarcasm is incredibly productive and much appreciated (0.00 / 0)
Campaigns spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on up-to-the-minute polling for pretty much no reason, other than building bigger spreadsheets to jerk off to. So there's basically no reason to think that they have any reason to disagree with what's said here. They must just all be incredibly stupid, irrationally risk averse, and generally not doing anything other than stealing money.

To even suggest that campaigns could be behaving rationally was an astounding error on my part, and if it weren't for your sarcasm I would continue bumbling through life with the same skewed perspective that political actors are generally rational survivors who are pretty good at what they do. Thank you again.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go to the hospital, because I'm currently foaming at the mouth from a snarkoleptic seizure..


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They ARE Irrationally Risk Averse (0.00 / 0)
See Bill Clinton signing onto "welfare reform" in 1996, ahead of Bob Dole by two football fields, with a solid majority on his side for a veto.

See Al Gore in 2000, afraid of using Bill Clinton even in a carefully targetted way, afraid to even campaign on the Clinton/Gore record of acheivement, for fear of being "tainted," and afraid to wage a full-scale war for the Presidency when it was being stolen from him in broad daylight.

See John Kerry, 2004, afraid of attacking George Bush at the DNC, and ordering all speakers not to attack, afraid to counter-attack the Swiftboat liars, and afraid to stand by his earlier pledge and demand that all the Ohio votes be counted.

"Risk Averse" is their middle name.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Are they a fighter? (0.00 / 0)
First of all, even if there were greater difference in the articulated issues, politicians lie about this stuff and renege as soon as they're in office.

Secondly, whatever their articulated positions, once in office they will face stiff opposition, and what's on paper is not going to be the decisive factor.

What I want to know is whether my candidate will fight.  Or will he/she wither under pressure.

Frankly, I don't like Hillary's positions, and I don't like Hillary, and she is not my first choice (don't know who is).  But if I wiped my brain clean and was looking at the campaign fresh, I would perceive her as the best (even if dirtiest, nastiest) fighter, and I would guess that's a substantial part of her appeal to the mainstream.  Dammit, she wins on character, and it sickens me.

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Metapositions (0.00 / 0)
I think it's interesting that you say you don't like Clinton's positions but like her on character. What I'd say is that there is an important third category of "metaposition" which is related to but not identical to ideology.

What I mean is this. Mike is right that the differences between Clinton and Obama or Edwards are very small. Compare Clinton to any of the candidates in 2004 except Kucinich. Compare the breadth of disagreement among 2004 candidates. Her positions are quite good - on health care, on Iraq, on unions, on everything Mike listed - and are, when taken one by one off her website, practically a wishlist for a progressive president.

What is worrisome is her more general stance: unions are for the middle class, not solving poverty; let's get out of Iraq, but be hawkish on Israel; great health care plan, but lots of donations from insurers. It is the distance between her specific policy positions and her metapositions that give me pause and to be honest, I don't know which of the two to trust more.

But in the scheme of things, I find it hard to do much but praise Clinton on the nuts and bolts of any given plan.


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Distinctions (0.00 / 0)
Mike,

Did you attend the steak fry?

The question is then about organization. I read that Obama had the most people at the steak fry with over 3000 people in which they had 15 buses coming from 10 different locations in IA.

Many political observer's were surprised at his level of organizational strength.


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steak fry. (0.00 / 0)
I did attend. The Obama folks were bragging to me ahead of time that they would dominate the day, but I didn't get the sense that they had any more people there than Clinton or Edwards. All 3 had tons of supporters in the crowd.

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Steak fry (0.00 / 0)
The MSM was  reporting that Obama had the nost number of supporter's at the event.

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That's Too Bad For Obama (0.00 / 0)
Since they never seem to get anything right.

How 'bout that Surge?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Didn't exactly say I LIKED her on character (0.00 / 0)
I like that she's a fighter, but not much else.  What I was trying to convey is that she wins on character among the general public because of her toughness.  Personally, she has some heavy negatives, like I don't trust her to not start a war with Iran.

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Isn't this the Clinton line? (0.00 / 0)
Isn't her whole schtick, basically, "don't worry about those awful things I said and votes I cast on Iraq, I'm just the same as Obama or Richardson on the war?"

That said, I agree on the whole. We have a great group of candidates, and a remarkable degree of focus. Let's not ignore the distinctions that do exist, however.


Thx (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for your follow up Mike. I will take a look at these cases.

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