The Political Duality Of Rep and Dem

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Oct 06, 2007 at 06:00


There's a rather far-flung concept in mathematics known as "duality."  A few days ago it struck me how this concept can illuminate something very fundamental about the current state of American politics.  It's a powerful, and far-reaching concept, but fortunately you don't have to grasp a great deal about it in order to get my point.

As Wikipedia explains:

Generally speaking, dualities translate concepts, theorems or mathematical structures into other concepts, theorems or structures, in a one-to-one fashion. Duality is characteristically an involution operation: if the dual of A is B, then the dual of B is A. As involutions sometimes have fixed points, the dual of A is sometimes A itself.

Ohhhh-kay.  Let's try bringing that down to Earth a little bit, shall we?

A simple example comes from graph theory:

In mathematics, a dual graph of a given planar graph G has a vertex for each plane region of G, and an edge for each edge joining two neighboring regions. The term "dual" is used because this property is symmetric, meaning that if G is a dual of H, then H is a dual of G; in effect, these graphs come in pairs.

That may still sound like Greek to you, but it's a whole lot simpler when see it pictured like this:

See?  Each blue vertex (dot) is alone within a plane region defined by red edges (lines), and visa versa.  Each red line intersects one blue line, and visa versa.

In effect, the dual graph of G is sort of like turning G inside out.

So what's this got to do with politics?  With Democrats and Republicans?

Simple....

Paul Rosenberg :: The Political Duality Of Rep and Dem
The Basic Duality

(A) Democrats are reality-based when it comes to policies, and totally out to lunch when it comes to winning elections, and politicking in general.

(B) But Republicans are totally out to lunch when it comes to policies, and as reality-based as it gets when it comes to winning elections, and politicking in general.

Actually, that's just a first approximation.  It's actually more rigorous than that, which is what makes it interesting.  But that's enough to let you know the ballpark we'll be playing in, if you care to continue this exploration.

The Shape of What's To Come

Now for the bad news.  There's too much to this to do it properly in a single post.  So I'm going to chop it up into parts.  But I'll tell you enough about where we'll be going so I hope that you'll want to make the whole journey with me. 

First, I want to introduce a couple of schemas for understanding cognitive complexity.  The first is a very directly applicable to what we're going to be discussing.  The second is a bit more abstract, but has a couple of big payoffs that make it worthwhile to include.  That's what the rest of this first diary will be about, with a little taste of what's to come at the end.

The second diary will show how this analysis works to illuminate what's going on in politics, with a peak at a few different conservative policy fiascos.

Then, in the third diary, I want to turn things around, and look at how the Democrats have been acting lately, such as the MoveOn fiasco.

Finally, in the fourth and final diary, I'll tie it all together, explain the duality more precisely than I've done at the beginning, and talk abut what sorts of lessons it holds for us, and how we can start being as smart and reality-based in politicking as we are in our real-world analysis and policy-making.


Cognitive Complexity I: Three Styles of Adult Thinking


Jean Piaget began the scientific study of cognitive development in the 1920s, developing his theory of developmental stages over the course of several decades.  A number of other theories have developed similar theories refining or significantly modifying Piaget's work, including theories that include more than just a single adult stage of development.

One such example is Shawn Rosenberg (no relation), who emphasizes a greater role for the social environment, as opposed to seeing development as purely an internally-driven process. In his 1988 book, Reason, Ideology and Politics he lays out a three-fold typology of adult reasoning,
which is discussed along with other developmental approaches in an online papepr, "Structures of Geopolitical Reasoning":

  • Sequential thinkers reason "by tracking the world," recognize regularities in sequences of events, but have no abstract understanding of cause and effect.  The world they perceive is a world of appearances that has very little organization to it beyond the recurrence of sequences.

  • Linear thinkers understand cause and effect, limited to a one-direction, one-cause/one-effect model.  The world they perceive has logical order and structure, but the structure is invariably hierarchical, causality flows top-down, and the world is divided neatly into cause and effect.

  • Systematic thinkers understand multi-faceted, multi-linear cause and effect, with mutual cause-and-effect relationships between different elements.  The world they perceive is primarily a world of systems and relationships, rather than objects.

Because sequential thinking plays such an important role in movement conservatism, I want to elaborate it more fully.  The first two points come from the paper linked to above, the last two from Rosenberg's book:

  • The notion of causality, e.g. that events are caused by necessary and sufficient preconditions, does not play a salient role in the sequential mind. Events transpire, without much interpretation of how they come about. The attention is occupied by one item at a time, and there is little spontaneous effort to relate them to other items or to a general context.

  • The sequential thinker is not really aware that the world may appear differently to other people, and he or she has therefore a limited ability to take the perspective of others.

  • Sequential thinking involves conceptual relations that "are synthetic without being analytic.  They join events together but the union forged is not subject to any conceptual dissection." [Direct quote from Rosenberg's book.] Because such relations are non-rational, there is nothing rational one can say or do to change them. (Sound familiar?)

  • But they can change, Rosenberg explains, based on changing appearances. These relationships "are mutable," they can either be extended, based on "share[d] recognized overlapping events" (connections provided by Limbaugh, O'Lielly, etc.) or changed, when the sequence does not play out as expected.  Because it is a pre-logical mode of thought, "the relations of sequential thought engender expectations, but do not create subjective standards of normal or necessary relations between events."


I will be referring back to these points in diaries to come, as well as below in the current diary.

Cognitive Complexity II: Kegan's Subject/Object Model

A more robust theorectical model was developed by Harvard psychologist Robert Kegan, a student of Lawrence Kohlberg, who wrote two principle books explaining his theory, The Evolving Self: Problem and Process in Human Development and In Over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life.  While Piaget's primary focus was on reasoning about the physical world, Kohlberg focused on moral development.  Kegan built on this work, extending the analysis to education and therapy, and drawing parallels to the work of other developmental psychologists, such as Erick Erickson and Abraham Maslow.

Kegan developed a five-stage model (along with a primative stage 0) that had a consistent underlying logic to it:  At each stage, the self has a two-fold structure consisting of object (conscious elements that can be acted on) and subject (unconscious background elements that do the acting).  What is subject at one stage becomes object at the next. This logic is applicable to Rosenberg's three styles of adult reasoning, as will be discussed shortly.

The table below summarizes the major characteristics of all five stages.  Explaining all the terms in full would take us considerably afield from the main point of this diary series.  What's important is first, to observe the logic present, second to understand how Rosenberg's three types of thinking make sense as related to Kegan's stages 2, 3 and 4, and third, to understand what added insight this provides.  The discussion below will deal with all three of these points in an inter-related fashion.  Here then, is the table:

Kegan's Subject/Object Schema of Cognitive Development
StageWe Are:
Subject
(structure of knowing)
We Have:
Object
(content of knowing)
Underlying Structure
1Perceptions

SOCIAL PERCEPTIONS

Impulses
Movement


Sensation
2Concrete

POINT OF VIEW

Enduring Dispositions
Perceptions

SOCIAL PERCEPTIONS

Impulses
3
Traditionalism
Abstractions

MUTUALITY/
INTERPERSONALISM
Relationship


Inner states
Concrete

POINT OF VIEW

Enduring Dispositions
Needs, Peferences
4
Modernism
Abstract Systems

INSTITUTION
Relationship-Regulating Forms

Self-authorship
Abstractions

MUTUALITY/
INTERPERSONALISM
Relationship

Inner states
Subjectivity
Self-consciousness
5
Post-
Modernism
Dialectical

INTER-
INSTITUTIONAL

Self-transformation
Abstract Systems
Ideology

INSTITUTION
Relationship-Regulating Forms

Self-authorship
Self-regulation
Self-formation

The first thing to observe about the table above--without even knowing what any of the terms mean--is the basic logic indicated above:  What is subject at one level is object at the next (although there may be additional elaboration).  This is reinforced by noting how the underlying structure of each level creates a larger strutural context encompassing the structure of the level before.

The transition between Level One and Level Two is the transition between early and late childhood (also known as "latency).  In early childhood different children will exhibit different sorts of characteristic behavior, but there is a strong tendency for this be highly variable, according to environment at any given time, and according to changes over time, as young children are particularly prone to "go through phases," to develop strong interests and attachments (whether to objects, activities, playmates, tv programs, etc.) which can rather abruptly be broken, replaced or supplemented with something else seemingly quite different.  This reflects the fact that they have yet to develop what becomes so characteristic of late childhood, a set of characteristic dispositions that very much define who a child is at this stage of life.  This stage lasts until the onset of adolescence, which is normally a prolonged transitional period to adulthood, characterized by Level Three.

In traditional societies, cognitive development beyond Level Three is relatively rare, and even then is generally found only in later stages of life, at ages that relatively few adults reach.

At Level Two, point of view is subject, it's part of the unconscious background of awareness.  At Level Three, one has a point of view, one can reflect on it as an object, compare it to a previous point of view, and recognize that one now sees things differently.  It's also possible to compare points of view with others, see where there is agreement or disagreement, etc.

At Level Three, points of view are objects within a larger context, and that context is society itself, the social surround of roles and relationships that define one's place in the universe by defining one's place in society.  And just as it was impossible to reflect on one's point of view at level two, it is impossible to reflect on society as a whole at level three--because it is subject, it is part of the very fabric of what one uses to reflect on other things.

Level Four is the level of conscious autonomy, in which the socially-constructed self, and the society it is constructed by, becomes object, subject to reflection and inspection by the autonomous self, what Kegan calls the "institutional self." The institutional, autonomous self is the self of liberal political theory, dating back at least to the time of the Reformation.

This is not to say that this cognitive level has been commonplace since then.  (Remember his book title?  In Over Our Heads?  Get it?) Rather, the conflicts and pressures that tend to give rise to it have been common.  The gap between those pressures and how many people adapt to them can be measured crudely by the degree of violence involved in the Wars of Reformation, such as the Thirty Years War.

Level Five represents an additional level of complexity, at which the modern self itself comes into question, and becomes object for a higher level of conscious questioning.  Instead of appearing as outside of or beyond the definitions of society--the individual in direct relationship with God, for example, in Luther's formulation--that self is now seen as a construction, and more importantly, it is seen as a construction of opposites.  Dualities such as male/female, sacred/profane, spirite/flesh, mind/matter, etc. are increasely seen as relational terms defined in terms of one another, rather than as absolute opposites.  Paradoxes, which frequently depend on presumptions of absolute opposition, are no longer seen as contradictions that resist all thinking, but as potential sources of insight into how underlying opposites are constructed, and how they mght be constructed otherwise.

In short, what were taken as natural, immutable principles on which the autonomous self could be constructed, beyond the mutable social realm, are now seen to be part of a larger process of becoming.

It's highly significant for us that Level Three is identified with traditionalism, and the self constructucted from social roles and relationships, while Level Four is identified with modernism and the autonomous self.  This is, in a very straightforward sense, a natural dividing line between conservatism and liberalism.

However, it is only one such dividing line.  Traditional societies can vary enormously in terms of how liberal or conservative they may be, befined in terms of authoritarianism, militarism, patriarchy, xenophobia, etc. vs. their opposites.  Many of these differences tend to correlate with material conditions, with similar social structures and ethical systems among large agricultural societies such as Sumeria and ancient Egypt.  Yet, even rather similar material conditions can give rise to strikingly different value systems, as noted by early anthropologists such as Ruth Bennedict in her classic, Patterns of Culture.

Still, the Level 3/Level 4 transition is profound, and often profoundly political.  While conservatives often argue that certain things simply cannot be changed, liberals requently ask, "Why not?"  Liberals asked this about conservative claims that blacks were "natural slaves," for example.  This attitudinal difference certainly makes considerable sense if we think of conservatism as expressing a Level Three consciousness, that of a self that is constructed out of the social roles and relationships of the surrounding society, while liberalism expresses a Level Four consciousness, capable of reflecting on, and critiquing those same roles and relationships.

This also explains some of the asymmetry in attitudes.  If, like the Level Three self, one is embedded in social roles and relationships, then any criticism or critique of them is likely to be experienced as an attack on one's very self.  Thus, ordinary Level Four thinking can readily be interpreted as hostile, even treasonous activity by the Level Three self.

In contrast, even the most vicious attacks of the Level Three self on the Level Four self are likely to be seen as expressing autonomous individual differences, which can always be mediated, either by choices of free association (such as freedom to worship where and how one will), or by market mediations, or by political contest and compromise.  Of course, both cognitive levels are mistaken to judge one another in their own terms--but this is a very common form of confusion, as Kegan points out repeatedly in In Over Our Heads.

With this introduction the logic of Kegan's levels in mind, it's illuminating to consider the following table describing different aspects of Rosenberg's 3-level typology of thought discussed above.  If one looks carefully, one will see that each separate heading exhibits its own sense in which each level stands in a subject/object//context/content relationship to the level before:

Table K-1.1
Rosenberg's 3-Level Typology
Fundamentals & Application to Politics
Derived from Reason, Ideology and Politics, and Thomas Jordan's "Structures of Geopolitical Reasoning: Outline of a Constructive-Developmental Approach"
I. Fundamentals of Reasoning
Nature of Reasoning
1-Tracks objects.  Reasoning is bound to the world as it appears.
2-Analyzes sequences of activity.
3-Juxtaposes relationships among actions and beliefs.
Sense of Causality
1- Largely absent:  Events transpire, without much interpretation of how they come about.
2- Unidirectional: One factor acts upon another.
3- Bidirectional: Many factors act reciprocally on each other.
Conceptual Objects
1-Objects which currently are, or have been observed.
2-Concrete, observable actions, with concrete objects as subunits.
3-Relationships between actions and beliefs.
Conceptual Relations
1-Sequential order of events or a match between similar ones.
2-Subjectively defined unidirectional relationships.
3-Abstract, bidirectional relationships interposed between units.
II. Politics
Nature of Politics
1- Focuses on particular actors and present or very recent events
2- Considers causal relations and organizational structure, in unidirectional fashion.
3- Sees politics as regulated by collective rules, norms and expectations..
View of Political System
1- Concrete interactions. No sense of durable relationships, or a general context in which concrete events are situated.
2- Hierarchical structures where control flows from the top downwards.
3- A complex web of mutual relationships.
Political Players
1-Observed, concrete objects, each with its particular appearance and place in a sequence of events.  No sense of them as subjects.
2-Subjects-individuals and groups-with internal drives and motivations who are the causes of action, and those targets of action whose activities are other-determined.
3-Systems of action and belief.
Nature of Political Actions
1- Specific, concrete, actually-observed speech and action within relatively short sequences of events.
2- Observable, concrete acts-whether or not actually observed-that occur in an ordered world of cause and effect.
3a-Genreal organizing forces that regulate specific interactive relationships and define the rules governing interrelationships between ideas.
3b-Particular interactions and propositions defined with regard to specific acts and general rules involved.
  Key: 1-Sequential reasoning. 2-Linear reasoning. 3-Systemic reasoning.

One final note needs to be made about the subject/object level structure visible above, and that concerns how Rosenberg's levels compare with Kegan's. The short answer is that they correspond generally to Kegan's levels 2-4.

Sequential thinking is generally oblivious to social structure, its norms  and the abstract foundations that constitute it as a whole. 

Recall from above that "The sequential thinker is not really aware that the world may appear differently to other people, and he or she has therefore a limited ability to take the perspective of others."  This is precisely what it means to be a point-of-view, as Level Two does, rather than to have a point-of-view, as Level Three does.

Linear thinking is generally reflective of social structure, implicitly assuming both its existence and its morality.  Systemic thinking is generally critical of the social structure, in the neutral sense of a movie critic, whose "criticiam" might be an enthusiastic review.  It alone is capable of juxtaposing, comparing and evalauting actions and beliefs, and reflecting on mutliple possible causes, including circular causation.  These are possibilities that only come fully into their own to the extent that one is capable of standing outside of the social system and reflecting on it as a whole--which is to say, it is to say, to the extent that one has an autonomous, institutional Level Four self.

Onward

In the course of laying out these two schemas I've made some comments about political implications.  In the diaries to come, the political implications will move to the fore.  In the next diary I'm going to elaborate much more fully on the brief discussion above about the crucial distinction between Level Three and Level Four thinking--and even moreso on the vast gap between Level Two and Level Four.  Because one of the key dynamics that characterizes our politics is the degree to which conservative thinking--which normally ought to be characterized by Level Three, has been dragged down into Level Two--(and, if truth be told, even lower than that).


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Interesting 'stuff' (4.00 / 1)
I'm looking forward to the rest. I'm also wondering just how these types of 'thinking' might have been sorted and selected for by the evolutionary process.

Doesn't seem to me that the linear thinking human would be very adaptable nor show a superior rate of survival. Perhaps what's why we see that a minority of 'folks' still support Mr. Decider?

But I'm getting ahead of the argument here due to my interest in my, and others, supposition that modes of thought that in previous times were well fitted to the individual's survival which now have a very negative effect on the group's ability to deal with change. To me this is the central issue: Can humanity deal with it's inherent hard-wired limitations in time to avert a global social and ecological catastrophe?

It would also be extremely interesting to hear about the possibility of transitions from one level to another by the individual. Which I guess is just another way of asking the same question.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


Think Of The Ants (4.00 / 1)
Ants demonstrate a very important point: the group can exhibit a higher level of intelligence than the parts its made out of.

Thus, the amazing thing to me is that we have the capacity for individual thought at such high levels that we can step outside of the group mind and critique it (Level 4), and then can step outside the level of mind needed to critique the group, and step outside of that.

Because of the capacity to grow out of one stage, or level, and into the next, I think it's completely innaccurate and misleading to speak of "hard-wired limitations."  The limitations we face are entirely "soft-wired," if you will.  What it takes to move from one stage to the next is generally a combination of challenge and support.  The challenge is all around us, as Kegan argues in the very title of his book, In Over Our Heads, but the support is in relatively short supply.

It appears to come from education, he notes: college education tends to get people up to Level 4, if not the first time, then by going onto or back to grad school.  And for those already at Level 4, going back to grad school seems to often do the trick in getting them to Level 5.  Kegan speculates that it may be less the curriculum content than the requirements of negotiating the web of roles and responsibilities.  There are structures supporting them, but they have to make it all work.

The challenge for us as a culture is not to get everyone to develop to higher levels, though that would certainly be nice.  The challenge is for us to restructure our public discourse so that it operates at a higher level.  As Glenn Greenwald noted in his comments this morning:

During the "debate" over whether to invade Iraq, the dominant argument was: Either (a) you want to go to war against Iraq or (b) you are pro-Saddam and in favor of rape rooms and the genocide of Kurds.

Now, the argument from the same crowd is: Either (a) you support a war against Iran or (b) you are pro-Ahmadinejad, want to see Israel destroyed, and favor the execution of homosexuals.

It's the most simplistic form of a black/white mode of "reasoning" known, one that was rarely seen outside of a group of 8-year-olds until the Bush-following faction took over our political dialogue.

Most people--adults, anyway--do not think this way in their everyday lives.  But they accept, parrot, or fail to challenge it in the political discourse.  And this is precisely what we need to stop. One function of discussing the science of cognitive development is to strengthen people's confidence and resolve in confronting this ongoing idiocy.

The fact that people are smarter than this in their everyday lives is a source of tremendous hope.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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I have one nit (0.00 / 0)
High school kids are much more flexible and questioning than College kids. I remember presenting a political analysis of why the US intervention in Nicaragua was wrong. The college kids took notes and didn't ask many interesting questions. But WOW! The high school kids were really excited and tossing the ideas around.

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Complexity of Thinking Is Only One Factor (0.00 / 0)
Just because people can see more complexity doesn't mean they'll be motivted to even look at it.  Values, motivation, self-interest, these are all factors that are may have some correlations, but are not necessarily related in any sort of strong fashion.

Indeed, sometimes the relationships are inverted--those who can see the most complexity despair of doing anything as a result.  So this is only one piece of the puzzle--but it's a very important one.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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New media as support for "upward mobility" in thinking levels (0.00 / 0)
I think "media" is an arena that COULD provide some of the "support" for migration to higher levels that Paul refers to.  But today's mass media tends to do just the opposite.  TV "news" typically bombards viewers with large amounts of Level 2 thinking (sometimes from both right and left), using presentation techniques that tend to overload and numb awareness and confuse logic.

Watching most TV news (especially the cable nets) is kinda like sitting in a living room full of loud Level 2s arguing with each other about Level 2 issues that have little relationship to reality.  Typically, one either chooses to leave the room or ends up eventually being dragged down to that level, since it does exist in all of us. In life, there's also the option of jumping into the conversation in an effort to bring the conversation up a level or two, but that's not an option with television, since its a one-way medium.

As Paul says, "The fact that people are smarter than this in their everyday lives is a source of tremendous hope."  Since mass media is a pretty ubiquitous presence in modern life, and  currently serves as a heavy anchor to lower levels of thinking, its seems to me that it would be a high-leverage investment to create high-impact multimedia content and high-accessibility media delivery systems that provide the much-needed "support" for movement to higher levels.

To return to my living room analogy, having this kind of media would be akin to having a group of Level 4-5 thinkers walk into living rooms around the country to provide a counterbalance to the strong tendency to revert to Level 2 thinking. Of course, someone has to make the choice to turn on the Level 4-5 media channel, but that can be as simple as a few remote or mouse clicks by a Level 3+ desperate for some support.
 


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If You Want To See An Example of What That Looks Like (0.00 / 0)
having this kind of media would be akin to having a group of Level 4-5 thinkers walk into living rooms around the country to provide a counterbalance to the strong tendency to revert to Level 2 thinking.

This is what the Institute for Public Accuracy, for example, strives to do with the experts it promotes to discuss issues in the news.  And I wrote about it in my earliest diary where I discussed Rosenberg's typology, over at DKos, and then in a refined version at MyDD, in "Terri Schiavo: We're Too Smart!"

This current series is somewhat of an expanded discussion of ideas that can be found in that diary.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Thanks (4.00 / 1)
for the references, Paul, and, Metadata, for your comments.  I'm busy doing 2006 tax prep before the final, final deadline, but took a quick look at IPA and that MyDD thread you cited. 

What IPA is doing seems like a foundational step in the right direction and part of an effective strategy.  But based on my quick look at the site, it also highlights the current state of over-dependency on the MSM as the primary outlet of "news and public affairs."  Dealing with it is necessary and important, but displacing its influence over time strikes me as the more important long term goal.

The Terri Schiavo thread seemed full of insight based on a quick scan.  One point you made in it, Paul, which seems to be echoed by Metadata's comment, is that the most effective counter-narrative is one that reaches a wide range of people, wherever they are on the thinking-scale you lay out here.  That seems to be an art form of great political value...progressive system thinking that generates messages that resonate and persuade at ALL levels of thinking.

This reminds me of an old MyDD post by Matt's brother, who was and maybe still is a screenwriter in Hollywood.  He argued that progressives should make more use of the talent (not just the money) of Hollywood's creative community in crafting their message.  Harnessing that to the substance of IPA and other "subject matter experts" and building a message strategy that takes into account the multi-level model you describe here strikes me as a path of development worthy of consideration.

Back to tax prep...Ugh!


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I'm not sure that our blogs aren't part of the problem (4.00 / 1)
(Present company excepted).

Most blog posts are five minute or five second reads, which doesn't contribute to developing a more complex analysis. Or a blog post targets a single point, or the main point is merely a snark or a joke. That is a bit lazy compared to what we need to accomplish.

As over-educated thinkers, we have a tendency to emphasize the logical/rational side, and fail to remember that every political issue has hooks at several levels: values, logic, self-interest, practicality, cost/benefit, different actors, different audience.

Or, we need to remember that people learn in different ways. Some are visual, others logical, others emotional. The power of an idea is amplified when it is presented on different levels.

Talking at different levels at the same time is one thing that the right-wing machine does very well. Matt's post on Emergent Politics and Rush Limbaugh pointed that out.


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The Enlightenment, Western Religion, and Eastern Religion (0.00 / 0)
Modern philosophy that sprang from the enlightenment period and some Eastern philosophies can give us a starting point to understand instances of more advanced cognitive models (Kegan 4 and 5) of the mind while traditional monotheistic religions fit with and are collective instances of a more primitive model (Kegan 3).

Conservatives see morality or values as predefined and inflexible. If you disagree with an established moral precept then you are admonished for believing that morality is relative to whim.  In reality, morality is constrained by nature and relative to set initial conditions (the environment). Humans are agents in the world that can refine  values and change conditions that values depend on. Confucianism creates and adjusts the system of governance to fit with humans and their condition rather than the other way around.

In general, culture is a system that includes morality and is used to decrease unpredictability and transactional costs of relationships in society. We see culture evolve with human sophistication and our changing environment. We see multiple cultures the seem to work just fine.

The traditional western religions establish a heavenly
patriarchy with a set father/son or master/slave relationship between God and man. A fixed unalterable morality originates from the heavenly God. Thus these traditional western religions lie firmly within the third level of cognitive development.

Someday we might find out that self is an illusion. We can distinguish the self from the surroundings only by composition and function however, the same natural rules apply to clump of clay also apply to us as humans. We are a like a clump of clay set into a peculiar motion.

The mind is a composition of competing mechanizations that are not completely contradictory but complement each other and cooperate to form the whole individual. In Zen Buddhism, one will mediate on paradoxes to enlighten the mind and augment perception. Thus the forth stage of cognitive development can be helped along though this kind of practice.

John McCain would love to send your kids to war.


The Fractured Western Tradition (0.00 / 0)
By and large, I would agree.  However, the Western Tradition itself is actually far more varied--despite repeated theological purges.  This is especially true of the esoteric traditions of both Judaism and Christianity.  It is more the function of religion serving to justify the state than anything else, I think, that has created this situation.

Hinduism was actually much more effective and efficient in this regard.  They acheived a complete melding, whereby the quest for enlightenment justified the most rigid forms of systemic human oppression.  There are still people in India in bond servitude, whose ancestors have not been free for thousands of years.

Buddhism was, in fact, a form of rebellion against all that.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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The experience of self (4.00 / 1)
I agree that religious-spiritual perspectives and practices focused on developing a deeper and less rigid/resistance- and fear-based sense of self is a powerful tool for moving up the scale we're discussing here.  And also that it stands in almost direct contrast to the judgmental/vengeful vision of God espoused by some religions (especially their "establishments") and, as Paul notes, the complex caste-based theology of Hinduism.

And while these perspectives and practices are probably most readily compatible with a Buddhist tradition, as Paul mentions, there are similar (though less obvious and less mainstream) threads of development within other religions--and for that matter, outside of ANY religion.

Unfortunately, some religious types see these things as "work of the devil" since they get people generating their own thoughts, insights and perspectives, and asking and answering questions that don't fit well with religious dogma. 

Though I don't have any stats on this (but do have a fair amount of first-hand experience dealing with it), my sense is that these hard-core people are a pretty small minority, and that a well crafted set of messages based on something like "dignity for all" can reach a good percentage of people who are strongly religious, but have not become too deeply entrenched in Level 2 thinking.


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Political Psychology or Political Values? (4.00 / 1)
I appreciate all these interesting ideas, but I'm concerned that it is too easy for us to accept them because they fit into our own prejudices of superiority. Liberal thinking is more complex (good) and Conservative thinking is more simplistic (bad). It is easy to conflate values with psychology.

You associate Linear Thinking with a conservative PSYCHOLOGY and Systematic Thinking with a liberal one. However, there is no reason why a person with liberal political VALUES couldn't have the Linear mindset, and a conservative could have the more systematic mindset.

I'm sure you'll agree that it isn't just about the WAY we think about the world, and whether we have a simple or complex analysis or even ability. Other obvious candidates for explaning things are sometimes fairly simple:

A lot of Conservatives adhere to their values because it is in their own interest.
A lot of Conservatives just follow the values of their family or social circle.
A lot of Conservatives just have an authoritarian psychology. (I've met them).

As the bards said "Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest". In other words many if not most people believe things without necessarily thinking about them at all. Complex thinking might be more associated with being an intellectual (in the discriptive sense, not a value-judgement). Some of the most complex thinkers are people trying to justify a bizarre political situation, like why universal health care is bad and can't work.


Sure, It's Complicated (0.00 / 0)
Anything in social science is invariably complicated, and this is no exception.  As I already noted in the diary, traditional societies can be liberal or conservative in a number of different ways--as well as (implicitly) mixing and matching between them.  So the influence of cognitive levels of development is something overlaid on top of that.

And, of course there are a whole slew of other psychological correlations that have been found--high among which are the two primary forms of authoritarianism, rightwing authoritarianism and social dominance orientation.  So by all means the picture is complex.  (Which is another reason to strive for higher levels of cognitive development!)

Furthermore, I'll be arguing in a future diary that conservatives are more complex than liberals in their strategic thinking--that's the whole point of the duality framework I introduced at the top of this diary.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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excited to read part two (0.00 / 0)


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Authoritarianism is where my comment about... (0.00 / 0)
..'hard wiring' is coming from in part. Why do such mental structures, and they are structures seemingly inherent in some individuals, as Altemeyer researched exist?

Why is a top down authoritarianism acceptable to the 27% Bush Dead-Enders?

Why are chimpanzee troops and the basic military formation, the company, approx. the same number of individuals?

I believe that these are not products of culture but rather in the past, for millions of years, they enabled the individual to survive by subsuming the individual's decision making to that of the leaders of the group. This allows a group of primates to act in unison and defend it's self against threats no individual could withstand. This is not something I've cooked up but rather commonly know by primatologists.

Thus the authoritarian personality at one time having survival value for the group is now a dangerous liability for rather obvious reasons.Some of which Matt was addressing in his post about the minority controlling the majority.

Education seems to be one way to deal with this which is why you find the 'conservative' movement so concerned with home schooling and charter schools. These allow, with the 'proper' curriculum, the reinforcement of the Authoritarian mentality rather than, as public schools were originally designed to do, the socialization of what is at it's core a dangerous, indeed psychopathic under current conditions, mental state: Authoritarianism.

Which is and essential tool for the Fascists who are in the driver's seat today.

Which is not to say, as Paul points out, that the Authoritarianism theory explains it all. But it does address the fact which progressives have been wrestling with for some time; that is, why 'conservatives' are seemingly immune to rational argument on many issues. They're just not programed to communicate using dialogue.

Giving or following orders is how they want to interact with others.

And that's just what they do and will continue to do until we stop them.

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You Need To Read Altemeyer More Carefully (0.00 / 0)
Altemeyer is quite clear that RWA is defined by a range of attitudes.  While those on the high end are particularly difficult to reason with, there is no sharp dividing line, we all have some of those tendencies.

Furthermore, Altemeyer states that fear-inducing events--such as 9/11--will have a much more powerful influence on people (although it wears off, eventually) than their internal predispositons.

These are the sorts of indications we have--along with others--that tell us we are dealing with factors that are not hard-wired, however resistent they might be in the short run.

Why are chimpanzee troops and the basic military formation, the company, approx. the same number of individuals?

Why is this relevant?  Humans definitely evolved as small group social animals.  I don't deny that that's part of our genetic heritage.  But it's such a weak part that we are able to live in cities of millions of people with very little difficulty, and most of us would feel increbibly claustrophobic if our social interactions were to be limited to the small number of contacts that our ancient ancestors evolved with.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Another problem (4.00 / 1)
Interesting stuff.

A large part of the problem is that some Level 4's who ought to know better let themselves just go along with level 2 political "dialogue" instead of finding a way to deal with it.  Instead of challenging people to be their best, politicians pander to the worst simplistic thinking, and deify moral idiots like O'Reilly and Limbaugh. 

There are a great many people who stand to profit (at least in the short run) from keeping many people at level 2-3.  Meanwhile, we fall behind in science and even entrepreneurship.  You can't have a 21st century economy while half the population is mired in the Dark Ages even if it does make people more manageable.


John McCain--He's not who you think he is.


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