It's Unfortunate

by: Chris Bowers

Thu Oct 11, 2007 at 14:53

October 10th:

"It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is abandoning the politics of hope and embracing the same old attack politics as his support slips here in New Hampshire," said Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand.

October 9th

Mark Daley, a campaign spokesman for Clinton, said there were good reasons why the New York senator voted against some of the measures. For example, at the time, information provided to senators suggested the actions would dramatically boost fuel costs.

"It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is abandoning the politics of hope," Daley said.

October 8th:

Kathleen Strand, a spokeswoman for Clinton's campaign, responded: "It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is abandoning the politics of hope and embracing the same old attack politics as his poll numbers start falling."

August 15th:

Asked for a reaction to Obama's comments, Clinton campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson said by e-mail: "It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is turning away from the politics of hope and employing attack politics instead."

It's unfortunate you keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

And if there is something that really is politics as usual, it is using the same line, again and again, no matter the context.

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Reminds me of Matt's post on Clinton's "highest priorities" (0.00 / 0)
Ah, the value of a poor message hammered into our heads.

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Standard PR (0.00 / 0)
It's such by-the-book PR technique that they should be a little embarrassed to be using it. It's meant to convey "I had such high hopes for him, but have since learned that those hopes were misplaced. I'm so disappointed, as I'm sure you are."

I do not think it means what you think it means. (0.00 / 0)
Great "Princess Bride" quote.

Response (4.00 / 1)
"Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage. Anger at the way things are and courage to see that they do not remain as they are." - Augustine of Hippo, c. 410 AD

Democrats, Americans, and Sen. Obama all have a right to be angry at the lack of courage displayed in the Authorizaton of the Use of Military Force/Iraq vote. We also have an obligation to do something about it, if this country can find the courage to look at Iraq War for what it was, a failure of leadership in both parties. It's not 'Bush's War'. It's America's disaster.

John McCain

My god (0.00 / 0)
Where did you find that quote? It's amazing. That sentiment has been rattling around in my head for the past month or so, I had no idea it was a century and a half old.

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Quote (4.00 / 1)
It's a pretty famous quote. I'm not sure where I saw it first and the original context is lost (the quote is 1600 years old). People who I respect have told me that Augustine was a bit of mixed bag but after 1600 years I'm willing to overlook a few things.

Here is the column where I think I first found the quote...


...and here is specific link to the quote itself.


John McCain

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Interesting take(s) on Hillary that I believe many of us miss: (0.00 / 0)
Hillary Offers Little Change to Bush's Policies
By Radley Balko

h/t: http://www.antiwar.c... [OK!;-)]

Pretty obvious (0.00 / 0)
Guess Obama scares them when he offers people something positive to be for rather than a lesser evil. I don't happen to believe his offering, but there is a substantial constituency that want his kind of hope and apparently the Clinton operatives think that must be broken up.

Can it happen here?

It's unfortunate that Howard Wolfson (0.00 / 0)
is abandoning the politics of hope by dishonestly and hypocritically accusing his candidate's rivals of abandoning the politics of hope. I can't stand that guy. He's like the Dem version of Bob Novak--doom, gloom, lies and smear. Hillary's organization is a soulless political machine that has about as much to do with hope and optimism as a GOP debate at a traditionally black college. They're clearly emulating the RWNM that she's always complained about. Pathetic.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

Yeah and to think that: (0.00 / 0)
Howard Wolfson wife Terri McCullough is Pelosi's Chief of Staff *shiver*


Looks like the Hillary campaign has covered all the bases...

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Oh, Jeez (0.00 / 0)
And I thought that only the Pubs did nepotism. This gets worse every day...

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...Mankind are forever destined to be the dupes of bold & cunning imposture" -- Alexander Hamilton

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Yeah, but Obama's response is better (4.00 / 2)
That, in turn, prompted a retort from Obama spokesman Bill Burton, who noted that Clinton began her presidential quest promising a conversation with voters.

``Whatever happened to the politics of 'Let's chat' and 'Let's have a conversation?''' he said. ``Obviously, they find it irritating to answer tough questions on important issues like Iran.''

Unfortunate (0.00 / 0)
Snark and sarcasm may be acceptable modes of communication in the blogosphere, but I expect WAY more from campaign spokespeople.

It's UNFORTUNATE that Hillary's communications team is so deeply mired in poll-tested rhetorical platitudes.

Memo to Hillary (4.00 / 1)
Opposing your ideas and policies on various issues is not "abandoning the politics of hope", it's called debate.

If you wish to stifle debate, you're no better than our current President.

Full disclosure: I support Bill Richardson for President.

I should add (0.00 / 0)
That I have no problem whatsoever with a campaign repeating a line over and over. It's called discipline and it's how you get a message out. The Clinton machine is executing very, very well.

I do have a problem with someone saying that hope means you can't so much as draw a contrast! Sheesh!

So what kind of retort (0.00 / 0)
should we expect to see when Rudy attacks Hillary about her health-care plan?

Something along the lines of 'why don't you have your wife call you, and tell us all what your plan is'. Or some-such ad-hominem/mt rhetoric that turns voters off to the political process, and perpetuates the divide and conquer bullshit that we have been dealing with for far too long.

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