The Green Civil Wars Need to Begin

by: Matt Stoller

Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 17:56


Here's the DLC green group Environmental Defense.

Senators Joe Lieberman and John Warner tomorrow will introduce comprehensive, bipartisan climate change legislation that would cap and cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions while protecting the economy and American consumers.

And here's the more progressive Friends of the Earth.

Global warming legislation expected to be introduced tomorrow could provide giveaways worth hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars to polluting industries, according to an analysis of a draft of the legislation conducted by Friends of the Earth.

Here's Grist's David Roberts.

This is, in a sense, the same old strategy question that comes up all the time. Do you, like FOE, act as an outside agitator, draw lines in the sand, and try to pressure the political process? Or do you, like ED, worm your way inside the process, schmooze the big players, and strive to insure that the final bill is as good as it possibly can be under the circumstances?

If you say "we need both," gold star for you.

I love David's writing, but I don't agree with this as a matter of politics.  Insider-outsider strategies are critical to move policy, but what Roberts is describing is not an insider-outsider strategy.  He is describing a parasite.  Environmental Defense is justifying a large corporate give-away under the rubric of environmentalism, and the rest of the green community is letting ED get away with it.

In terms of the policy, Environmental Defense is alone here.  The green groups are remarkably polite to each, as most of them started in the 1970s convinced that protecting the environment was a value system.  At the time, it might have been.  Today, the question is how to manage a commons, and these groups just don't agree with each other.  There is no movement around the environment anymore, there are progressives, corporatists, and deniers, all fighting over a large multi-trillion dollar and rapidly shrinking commons.  The lack of robust internal debate among green groups means that ED's Fred Krupp can nonetheless speak for 'the environmental movement', scoop up his corporate money, and throw everyone else to the curb.

A letter on carbon allowances implicitly protesting the bill came out in September from Clean Water Action, Defenders of Wildlife, Earthjustice, the League of Conservation Voters, the National Audubon Society, the National Environmental Trust, the National Tribal Environmental Council, the National Wildlife Federation, the Natural Resources Defense Council, Oceana, Physicians for Social Responsibility, The Sierra Club, Union of Concerned Scientists, U.S. Public Interest Research Group, and the Wilderness Society all agree, to a greater or lesser extent with Friends of the Earth.  They don't like the bill, or the giveaway, but judging by tomorrow's coverage, you wouldn't know it.

ED is using its brand as an environmental group to push against progressive solutions to global warming.  In prisoner's dilemma parlance, it is 'defecting' from the rest of the community to get what it wants, which is insider influence and corporate money.  The argument from ED will be that corporations are part of the solution, which is of course true, though not in the way they mean.

We're long overdue for a real green fight.  And if these groups won't do it, ED is going to win until there's an internal revolt from the progressive dissidents within and outside of the environmental community. 

Matt Stoller :: The Green Civil Wars Need to Begin

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Greenwashing (0.00 / 0)
This is the political equivalent of corporate green washing.  Joe Lieberman is the Senate equivalent of BP.

Good for FOE for standing up to this crap.

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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
I think the most commonly used term is "Astroturf", perfect for this situation. 

We need something really serious to deal with global warming, along the lines of what Barack Obama is proposing.  There's a benefit to passing a real law instead of this joke ( in addition to actually addressing GW), which is that it will weaken the Fossil Fuel Lobby, one of the most powerful anti-progressive institutions in the country.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


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Line in the sand (0.00 / 0)
This would be one of those issues where there has to be a line in the sand and appeasement won't work. The outside groups and the members who will fight for the right legislation are where I would put my money in this fight. In order to win, we have to expand on the sense of urgency that is barely existant right now.

They'll threaten the funding of any green opposition (0.00 / 0)
None of the smaller (and they're almost all smaller) green groups can afford to come out against them. Environmental Defense has a lot of cred with funders and they'll throw it around to threaten people whenever it pleases them.

Though they are one of the most hated groups out there among the community. It's hard to turn over a rock among greens without finding someone who really despises them for something or other, but impossible to find people who'll speak out about them publicly.


Not as much cred as NRDC, (0.00 / 0)
Sierra Club, Greenpeace, Environment Pennsylvania/California/etc, World Wildlife Federation, USPIRG, and the many other environmental organizations that have been working on (and against when specifically talking about 'Clear Skies' and 'Healthy Forests') these issues and others (like the extremely successful Roadless Rule) for years.

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We're talking about different things (4.00 / 1)
I mean that they can get people's funding pulled and can always get their phone calls returned from congressional offices, not that they have more public or movement cred.

They've got people from Wal-Mart and Carlyle on their board for pity's sake. They've got big Silicon Valley money on tap. They're in tight with the multi-billion dollar Kellogg Foundation, National Geographic and a host of other high-powered philanthropic organizations. Their recently departed director of farm policy just went to work for the Grocery Manufacturers' Association, an industry group that also includes very green companies such as Alcoa, Altria and Monsanto.

Their representatives have stated in private that they want to see an end to small and mid-sized family farms because they're too much hassle. They like agricultural consolidation. So it should come as no surprise that they're big supporters of CAFOs (Confined Animal Feeding Operations), a farming practice that's responsible for 20% of global greenhouse gas emissions, about 80% of antibiotic consumption in the US, and a major worldwide vector for Avian Flu. They're largely responsible for the fact that CAFOs in the US are getting production subsidies out of our miniscule farm bill conservation funds, so you can imagine how popular they are with the very wealthy industries that feed off of that.

They have money. They know money. They screw people over who work with them, and really screw people who cross them.

Environmental Defense is every kind of bad news and no one who's serious about environmental policy should be lending them credibility by working with them.


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Inside/outside. (0.00 / 0)
As one of the leading proponents of inside/outside strategies on this site, I just have to weigh in on this: Matt is totally right- this is the worst kind of bullshit, not a legit inside-outside strategy. The point of inside-outside is to actually move the ball forward, not to help the corporate badguys paper over the problem.

Gore have a talk with your VP! (0.00 / 0)
All I have to say is:

Why the hell is this bill coming from Lieberman?
Where the hell are all our so-called progressive caucus members? Where all those Dems who stumped on environmental defense as an issue?

And where is Gore? Why isn't Gore coming out for or against this bill?

Perhaps it is too early. But if Gore does not weigh in on this bill and other bills, I will be disappointed.



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Why is Joey the Liarmann... (0.00 / 0)
.............................allowed to do anything at all by Dem leadership. They don't 'need' is vote to be in the majority since they are unwilling to use the majority to do anything.

TPM reports that some in the House are getting tired of being told by 'Gutless' Reid that there is nothing that can be done to pass good Dem legislation in the Senate.

Wonder how long freshman Dem Reps will sit still for that from tired, gutless, aged Senators who are not running for re-election?

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There's an interesting strategy.... (0.00 / 0)

Wonder how long freshman Dem Reps will sit still for that from tired, gutless, aged Senators who are not running for re-election?

I wonder what it would take for a full out battle of wills between Reid and the freshmen?

Rahm Emanuel, while not a progressive, is pretty aggressive.

I wonder what the chances of him and the freshmen saying we need to pass some bills.

I wonder what we could do to rock the boat.

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I would think that pointing out that.... (0.00 / 0)

............'The Rabbit' is and has been pretty much wrong on everything from beating Pombo to FISA might have an effect.

This is natural selection at work. Those not smart enough to see that 'The Rabbit' is a loser will disappear in 2008 and 2010. The citizenry is boiling mad that nothing is being done about The MeatGrinder or Healthcare and the time when excuses ala Miss Nancy & Friends is....

Long Past.

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Gore Is Relaxing (0.00 / 0)
Maybe Gore is doing the same thing he did for the eight years he was Vice President of the United States, which is absolutely nothing.

People want to make Gore a big hero now, partially because of the botched election in 2000, and partially to deal with their  own guilt about the environment by believing that somehow Al Gore will save us.

Al Gore was Vice President during the eight years when carbon emissions rose the most drastically in all of world history. I don't recall him doing one little thing to try and stop it back when he had actual power in the government. I know that the guy made a good movie, but that doesn't make him a hero any more than it makes Brad Pitt a hero.

Gore doing nothing about Lieberman's bill is 100% in character for him.


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Too Little, Too Late (0.00 / 0)
The Green Civil Wars needed to begin 20 years ago. We all know that if the people of the world don't drastically reduce our carbon emissions within ten years, we won't be able to stop catastrophe.

Even if by some miracle we get serous legislation passed in the next 4 years, it will most likely take effect in another 2, and in the meantime, China, India and Europe will have to do the same thing.

Sorry, but we're fucked. The best strategy for dealing with our environment in the future is to simply learn how to cope with the changes, because they're coming.


It's already started (0.00 / 0)
South Korea is investing billions in ships that will sail the northwest passage between Asia and Europe....Russia trying to lay claim to some of that sea route.....UK trying to lay claim to mineral rights in Antartica....countries are already planning for the post-global warming world.....

Pity about Venice....


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Northwest Passage (0.00 / 0)
Northwest passage from South Korea? Where are they going to take their goods? Europe? Europe will be a frozen wasteland in 80 years. Good luck trying to sell them DVD players.

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Trying to avoid another NAFTA debacle (0.00 / 0)
Matt,

I agree with you that this is about as far from a solid inside/outside strategy as we can get... particularly since there are other bills in the congress that we actually *do* support, and passage of Lieberman/Warner would set the policy agenda back to square one.

As much as I don't like ED and their long history of selling out the rest of the movement in favor of the corporations who are lining their coffers, I think a very public "green civil war" would be one of the worst possible outcomes.

The last public split between environmental groups on a major piece of legislation was around NAFTA.  Sierra Club and a few others (I believe Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, but I might be wrong about that) opposed NAFTA, the rest of the major green orgs were in favor (they mistakenly projected that NAFTA would lead to the exportation of our high environmental standards).

With a public divide among the environmental orgs, our opponents were able to pretty easily undercut all of us.  Their public messaging was that opposition to NAFTA was limited to a radical fringe of the environmental movement.  They held supportive green groups up as a shield and we had no effective counterstrategy.  That's just too solid of a meme if they have big name organizations and a public record of a fight between the groups to rely on.

It is possible that Gore is well-enough branded in the public mind on this one that he make moves that the traditional orgs couldn't.  I'm not sure if that would work or not, it's just something to think about.  But speaking as an environmentalist who personally would like to be part of that "civil war," I'm reticent about fighting it out in public.  A public civil war would be a scorched earth fight.  Even if we win that battle, when we turn back to the actual fight over adapting/preventing climate change, we're likely to find ourselves incapable of fighting.

Glad to see this being raised in the blogosphere, though.  Thanks for posting the topic.


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