Reid Betrays Dodd On Telco Immunity Hold--The Political Duality of Rep and Dem, Part 4

by: Paul Rosenberg

Sat Oct 20, 2007 at 11:43


Dominant as money may be, it's only part of the story:


Source: Ryan Singel on Wired's 27bstroke6 blog

With the Democratic Senate seemingly hell-bent on granting retroactive immunity to telcos that helped Bushco spy on Americans without a warrant, Chris Dodd stepped up to try and bring a halt to the madness by announcing a hold on the bill after it passed a committee vote.  Then, Thursday afternoon, at Firedoglake, Jane wrote:

Well this is quite shocking:

    Tim Starks of Congressional Quarterly reports that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) plans to bring the Senate's surveillance bill up for floor debate in mid-November. That's despite the hold that Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) plans to place on the measure - something first reported by Election Central's Greg Sargent.

I'm a bit confused here. This just doesn't happen. So I chatted with someone I know with extensive Hill experience, who said:

    "I can't think of one time when Harry Reid went around his own. It's just not normal for a leader to do that to his own side. Sometimes you'll go around Republicans, sometimes they'll use holds to be "spoilers," but that happens to the other guy. You just don't do it to one of your own."

Consider what happened when Chris Dodd introduced the Emmet Till cold case bill, which called for more money for unsolved civil rights crimes. Tom Coburn put a hold on the bill - and Reid just let it go. The bill died.

Strange set of priorities you've got there, Senator Reid.

I hope Dodd fights this one like hell.

Outrageous as this is, it's a perfect illustration of a point I didn't quite make as emphatically as I had hoped to with a diary series [links below] I did two weekends ago: that Democrats are as bad on political process as Republicans are on policy in cognitively similar ways. And so I return to that task on the flip.

Paul Rosenberg :: Reid Betrays Dodd On Telco Immunity Hold--The Political Duality of Rep and Dem, Part 4
Recapping The Story So Far

Two weeks is a long time in cyberspace, so here's a quick recap of my argument, before momving forward.  The thesis of the series "The Political Duality of Rep and Dem" is, in a first approximation:

(A) Democrats are reality-based when it comes to policies, and totally out to lunch when it comes to winning elections, and politicking in general.

(B) But Republicans are totally out to lunch when it comes to policies, and as reality-based as it gets when it comes to winning elections, and politicking in general.

What takes my thesis beyond this first approximation is casting it in terms of cognitive development.  As I've argued in earlies diaries, conservatism is consistent with a level of cognitive development (level 3) in which the self is defined in terms of the roles, relationships and structures of the social surround, which is consistent with the level of adult cognition in a traditional society,  although movement conservatism frequently functions at a more primative level, corresponding more to a pre-adolescent mindset, or adulthood in a cultic or possibly tribal setting.

Liberalism, in contrast, is consistent with a higher level of development (level4), in which the self critically reflects on the roles, relationships and structures of the social surround, taking them as objects that can be consciously manipulated and re-arranged to reflect changing circumstances.  This capacity to critically reflect and alter became a practical neceesity in the early modern period, at least among a more elite class of individuals who had to manage a significantly increased tempo of social change.  This was part of the rise of court power, on the one hand, and bourgoise urban power, on the other hand, challenging the traditional land-based power of the aristocracy, which characterized the emergence of the modern state system.  Conservatives have long failed to be reality-based in their policies precisely because they have not been capable of conceptualizing and critically reflecting on changes that have swept away the traditional world that their mindsets were suited to.

However, the argument of this series is that just as liberals are more reality-based in their policies, while conservatives cling to inadequate formulations, the reverse is true when one looks at politics--at the art of positioning and maneuver, be it in running elections, or in translating policy ideas into reality.  Two things stand behind this thesis:

First is the recent historical fact that conservatives have been remarkably effective at moving a political agenda that is largely at odds with what most Americans want.

Second is the simple fact that there is only an elective affinity and a statistical relationship between levels of development and political orientation.  Although movement conservatives routinely use language and forms of political persuasion that reflect quite primative forms of thinking, this does not mean that they all function at that level normally in their everyday lives.  Many most clearly do not.  Likewise, many liberals cling to notions that spring naturally from a level of cognitive complexity that is beyond their normal level of cognitive functioning.

Thus, there is good reason to conclude that liberals pour the vast majority of their higher-level cognitive functioning into policy content, while a small number of conservatives who function at similar levels pour the vast majority of their higher-level cognitive funcitoning into manipulating and controlling policy context, which is to say, the political process.

What My Model Means For Governance

My model argues that Republicans manipulate the (level 3) system while the Democrats act in unquestioning accord with it.  The evidence for this is overwhelming.  In fact, two years ago, in October 2005, political scientists Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson published a brilliant analysis, Off Center: The Republican Revolution & the Erosion of American Democracy , in which they presented a detailed argument about how the GOP had managed to re-engineer the structures of American politics to create a stable governing Congressional majority that only represented a numerical minority of the American people.

Of course that majority crumbled in one sense in November 2006, althoug it remains very much with us in other ways.  But none of that invalidates the argument in Off-Center.  No political order lasts forever, all that one can ask of such a work is how good a job is does of illuminating its subject matter, and in this task, Hacker and Pierson were superb.  Among other things, they explained how safe districts were used to defange Democratic challenges, while making moderates vulnerable to primary challenges from the right-challenges that could be driven by national groups such as the Club for Growth.  They explained how the GOP leadership allowed meaningless shows of independence, just in case those districts weren't quite safe enough.  And they explained how the GOP's "K-Street Project" was not simply aimed at grabbing an outsized chunk of lobbyists money, but at turning industry lobbyists into GOP lobbyists, requiring their help on the GOP agenda as a price of getting their legislation passed.

Taken all together, all these things strategies and more provided the structural backdrop for the more fleeting phenomena, such as holding House floor votes open indefinitely, which departed from long-standing Congressional tradition.  The daily shennanigans could have never endured without the structural muscle to force compliance.  And the structural muscle was all about a level 4 attempt to utterly remake culture of Congress, which includes the defining set of relationships that constitute the subject of the level 3 self.

While the basic policy logic of liberal governance is level 4, their long history of controlling Congress (almost without break from 1933 to 1994) and their deep commitment to the idea of government as a force for good combine to produce intense pressures to adopt a level 3 view of the act of governance itself.  This is not limited to what goes on within the halls of Congress, since it affects them by defining their level of cognitive complexity in dealing with the political process.  But since Congress is the primary locus of their activity, how they act there tends to have a powerful-even a defining-impact on how they act everywhere.

The Reid/Dodd Case Fits My Model

At first glance, the Reid/Dodd case is extraordinary, as Jane noted, precisely because it violates the level 3 norms of Senate conduct.  But the reason for this is not hard to discern, as seen in the charts, from Ryan Singel on Wired's 27bstroke6 blog that top this diary. Rockefeller is the committee chair, and he's newly beholden to the telcos. 

Furthermore, Ryan notes:

UPDATE: Reader Theo writes in to say why the money, though tiny in comparison to Rockefeller's fortune, is not negligible.

      Rockefeller is believed to have a personal fortune over $100 million. He spent $12 million of personal funds on his first Senate campaign. (http://www.encyclope...)

      However "in recent campaigns, he has downplayed his personal wealth in one of the nation's poorest states.  'I will not spend one single dime of any money that I have,' he said in 2002. 'So that I if I don't raise money, I won't spend money. I am on exactly the same playing field, so to speak, with anybody else who runs for office.'" AP

      He's up for election in 2008. The cost of Senate races has increased several times over the last two decades.  With a serious Republican challenger in WV, which Bush won twice, such as Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, he could be forced to raise tens of millions of dollars.  That, or break his promise not to use his personal fortune, which wouldn't play very well in one of the country's poorest states.

      So yes, even a Rockefeller has to raise money.  And in West Virginia, $50,000 is a lot of money.  It's about 2% of all the money he raised last year. (But I'll bet he's slightly more worried about being red-baited for suppurtin' terrists.)

It's worth noting, of course, that Republicans such as Arnold Schwarzenegger can make a big deal out of spending their own money so as not to be beholden to "special interests" (and then, of course, turn around and raise more special interest money than God), but Democrats generally have a much harder time playing that game.  This is yet another example of how Democrats play inside the set of preset rules-like good little level 3 social conformists-while Republicans make their own rules.

Thus, although Reid is clearly intent on violating Senate tradition by ignoring Dodd's hold, the reasons he is doing it are themselves traditional--but conditioned by how the Republicans have altered the playing field.  Thus, this becomes a case of an exception that proves (i.e. tests the parameters of) the rule.

Note that the GOP demanded that that lobbyists not just steer money their way, but that they support the GOP agenda in order to get what they wanted.  Here, Rockefeller and Reid are making no such demands.  In fact, the Democrats don't even have an agenda to demand support for.  This is just an indication of how utterly, totally lost the party is-at least inside the Senate.  It is a vivid illustration of the potentially enduring power of the changes to the level 3 culture of Washington made by the GOP's level 4 changes discussed by Hacker and Pierson in Off-Center.

Progressive Economic Policy In Peril

In his column Friday, Paul Krugman warned that this problem could prove fatal to chances for progressive economic reform.  First he notes have fortunes have changed:

I have a whole bookshelf of volumes with titles like "One Party Nation" and "Building Red America" - depended crucially on the assumption that the G.O.P. would have vastly more money than its opponents. It might even, some thought, match the 10-to-1 advantage Hanna gave William McKinley when he ran against William Jennings Bryan.

Oops. According to data collected by the Center for Responsive Politics, in the current election cycle every one of the top 10 industries making political donations is giving more money to Democrats. Even industries that have in the past been overwhelmingly Republican, like insurance and pharmaceuticals, are now splitting their donations more or less evenly. Oil and gas is the only major industry that the G.O.P. can still call its own.

He then spends a little time talking about why such things have happened, including the following:

In a classic 2003 article in The Washington Monthly, Nicholas Confessore (now at The New York Times) described the efforts of people like former Senator Rick Santorum to turn K Street into an appendage of the Republican Party - not the other way around. "The corporate lobbyists who once ran the show, loyal only to the parochial interests of their employer," wrote Mr. Confessore, "are being replaced by party activists who are loyal first and foremost to the G.O.P."

But corporations weren't happy. According to The Politico, "many C.E.O.'s" used the term "extortion" to describe "the annual shakedowns by committee chairmen with jurisdiction over their industries." And now that Mr. Santorum is out of office, heading the America's Enemies program at a right-wing think tank, the faint sound you hear from K Street is that of lobbyists singing: "Ding, dong, the witch is dead."

This is, as already mentioned, one of the key points that Hacker and Pierson developed in Off-Center.

Here is how Krugrman concludes:

Right now all the leading contenders for the Democratic nomination are running on strongly progressive platforms - especially on health care. But there remain real concerns about what they would actually do in office.

Here's an example of the sort of thing that makes you wonder: yesterday ABC News reported on its Web site that the Clinton campaign is holding a "Rural Americans for Hillary" lunch and campaign briefing - at the offices of the Troutman Sanders Public Affairs Group, which lobbies for the agribusiness and biotech giant Monsanto. You don't have to be a Naderite to feel uncomfortable about the implied closeness.

I'd put it this way: many progressives, myself included, hope that the next president will be another F.D.R. But we worry that he or she will turn out to be another Grover Cleveland instead - better-intentioned and much more competent than the current occupant of the White House, but too dependent on lobbyists' money to seriously confront the excesses of our new Gilded Age.

Linking to Krugman at TPM Cafe, , in a piece titled "Obituary: Conservative Economic Policy EPI economist Jared Bernstein writes:

And, as Krugman stresses this morning, the death of conservative economic policy by no means ensures the life of progressive policy. On that point, let me be very clear: we've got a great agenda. Compare the Romney economic agenda with that of Edwards. Compare the R's health plans to the D's. Spend a few minute on EPI's website with our Agenda for Shared Prosperity. Check out Bob Rubin and Jason Furman's Hamilton Project. In my decades of life as a progressive economist, I've never seen such an outpouring of good ideas.

But good policy solutions by themselves won't win the day. I remain deeply nervous that progressives will fail to tap this uniquely clear moment of the failure of conservative policy. And the stakes are very high. If we squander this opportunity-if we fail to get the majority of the electorate behind the progressive ideas touted above, or we fail to push wavering centrist democrats toward these ideas-we may not be able to repair the damage. I don't mean to be alarmist, but we must stop the zombies before it's too late.

Bernstein's whole piece is a perfect example of the point I am making here, and I urge you to read it in its entirety.  Conservative economic policy is an utter failure, he argues, and yet we have no guarantee that Democrats will take up any of the abundant alternatives out there and fight for them.  The reasons--and there are many of them--are strongly reinforced by the political duality that is the subject of this diary series, that is, by the Democrats' failure to act politically in a level 4 manner commensurate with the content of their policy ideas.



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I pretty much agree with your points... (4.00 / 1)

It remains to be seen if the needs and will of the average citizen will be able to break through the walls of  'Versailles'. We all know that that did not happen with the original version and what transpired once it was clear to the people of France that their rulers really did want them to 'eat cake'.

A lot of folks died and with them the Ancien Regime.

We've evolved quite a bit since them and our political fitness space no longer contains the actual killing of failed political leaders. One hopes anyway...

I would hope we can 'break through' to the cement heads currently in charge of the 'Democrat' Party. But....

If we don't that does not mean that the problems for us nor the problems for the uber-rich, the 'upper ten', corporatist fascism or whatever label you want to use goes away. No, the pressures for more social justice, income leveling would be a start there, healthcare, an economy that people can see is improving for them not just the uber-rich will only build until we have one of those discontinuities that punctuated evolution in the political fitness space is so fond of.

The blogosphere is playing a big role here in educating the citizens as to what is going on. You can see it at dKos where the commenters in many, many threads are coming to grips with the fact that the real reason current Democrat Party leadership is not doing 'what people elected them for...' is in fact corruption not 'spinelessness'.

The same thing that took the ReThugs down.

This is an important realization on the road to a truly progressive America.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


I don't agree with you .. (0.00 / 0)
about winning the elections .. I read a lot of the liberal blogs .. I feel there are many people here who could run winning campaigns .. yet aren't in the positions to be able to effect how a campaign is run ... I see people disparage "Mudcat" Saunders ... but he has helped run winning campaigns .. I think we have to start getting involved more with campaigns .. with out losing our soul

What??? (0.00 / 0)
I'm rather confused by this response.  First off, what don't you agree with about winning elections?

This:

(A) Democrats are reality-based when it comes to policies, and totally out to lunch when it comes to winning elections, and politicking in general.
???

So, it wasn't out to lunch that Kerry refused to respond to the Swift Boat Liars for two weeks or so in August 2006?  And it wasn't out to lunch that he stopped his counter-attack when John McCain (a Republican senator, if my memory serves) told him to stop?

Okay, that would be an interesting argument.  Care to lay it out for us?

Somehow I don't think that's what you had in mind.  But it is what I was talking about, as a major example.

Second, what the hell does Mudcat Sanders have to do with this post?

And third, even if he did, why the hell does helping "run winning campaigns" making anyone immune to criticism?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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I don't think you understand what I meant .. (0.00 / 0)
what I mean is this .. the entrenched DC elite(Donna Brazile .. Bob Shrum) have no clue how to win elections .. I said the people here in the blogosphere do .. if we could get high enough in the food chain to effect how a campaign is run

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You say Democrats are totally out to lunch .. (0.00 / 0)
when it comes to winning elections ..  what Dems are you talking about?  The Democratic "consultant" class?  Yes, they are surely out to lunch.  The blogosphere isn't .. a better question .. how can losers like Shrum and Brazile be repeatedly asked to run campaigns .. when they have such horrible records?  It's in the DC power structure and we need to change that.

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I Mean The Folks Who Control The Party (0.00 / 0)
And as of now, that ain't us.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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You are right about that ... (0.00 / 0)
I agree with you on that point!!

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you are overcomplicating things (0.00 / 0)
Washingtonians are just trying to maximize their own utility. Not the party's. Their own.

This is a carbon copy of the Republican grassroots experience beginning in December 2004. The incumbent party was happy after a wave, felt well positioned for the next election, and thus immediately began arbitraging away all the grassroots enthusiasm for future private benefits (contributions, guaranteed lobbying sinecures, lobbying fees paid to their friends, pork).

I don't think it has very much to do with ingrained minority psychology or "Democratic insider" psychology. The Republicans shook down all the industries by publicly fretting aloud that moderate Republicans would join Democrats in letting bills bad for specific industries pass, and that Bush was hoarding his political capital for bigger things and would let threatening bill X slip through, unless, wink wink, money came through. Hastert mutters aloud about how hedge funds are threatening, unregulated pools of capital where "drug money" or other illegal money leaks through like a sieve; hedge funds ramp up their lobbying operation, and it's like it never happened.

The Democrats are playing the same good cop/bad cop routine. The House committee barons thump their gavels to tax private equity; Chuck Schumer plays good cop and basically sets the price; private equity pays; and one of the main "cops" who didn't threaten in the first place (Reid, in the priveq example) quietly kills the bill.

Nothing psychological about it. It's just a business, that's all.

I think the best approach would be to inflict more primaries upon more bad actors, even at the expense of padding the Dem majority (the national tide, increasingly shitty economy, Bush fatigue, and the shakedowns will all provide a tsunami of cash for the Party to buttress incumbents, as well as expand the battlefield)


You Have A God-Given Right To Prefer Simplistic Explanations (0.00 / 0)
So why read blogs, anyhow?  Especially this one?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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well, if you have to be so sensitive about it (4.00 / 1)
then I won't bother offering thoughts on your posts.

But in my book, if a simple explanation has the same predictive power relative to one that's 10 times as complicated, the simple one is superior.

If your writing here is about reveling in overcomplexity to help you feel better about yourself, and not about winning, then that's entirely your prerogative, and I apologize for my mistaken prior impression.


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You've Already Chosen To Ignore So Much That I've Written (0.00 / 0)
I simply don't see any point in repeating myself.

You're certainly right that a simpler explanation is best, all other things being equal.  But I'm explaining much, much more than you are--a whole diary series worth.  So all other things aren't equal. And the fact that you can't see that leads me to think there's not much point in trying to explain it over and over and over again.

In fact, my response came from exactly the opposite reason than the one you suppose.  If I were more sensitive, I would feel the need to defend myself passionately, in great detail.  Instead, I just figure that someone like you will probably never be convinced--since you've already overlooked so much of my argument--so why waste my breath?


"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Some good points - but I'd like to add two (0.00 / 0)
First off, I daresay the Dem Congressional leadership has a "pre-Bush mindset". Either they fail to comprehend the severity of BushCo's assault on the Constitution and America's standing in the world, or at least they consider themselves unable to do anything about it. Effectively they act on the assumption that they may be able to rectify things only once a Dem sits in the White House - or else not at all, in which case they are willing to simply live with the consequences.

And secondly, and perhaps most importantly, Reid, Pelosi, and Hoyer aren't merely playing a lame and ineffective defense to BushCo - they do have an agenda that they are pushing quite aggressively. They subordinate their day-to-day politicking to the goal of electing a Democrat to the White House in 2008. They're buying into the assumption that only a "hawk" on national security and foreign policy matters can win the Presidency. Therefore, they refuse to take any stand on the war or domestic spying, etc., that might later undermine the hawkish appearance of the Dem nominee in the general election campaign. I don't know to what extent this strategy is actually coordinated with the Clinton campaign (and perhaps, to a lesser extent, also with the Obama campaign); I think the Congressional leadership might simply be pursuing this strategy in anticipation of the nominee's positions.

Damn George Bush! Damn everyone that won't damn George Bush! Damn every one that won't put lights in his window and sit up all night damning George Bush!


I Don't Doubt That Either Of Points Has Validity (4.00 / 1)
I would simply argue that they are consequences, in part, of what I am writing about, which is much deeper than the sort of evidence I am pointing to in order to demonstate its existence.

The "pre-Bush" mindset isn't just "pre-Bush," it's been around at least since Reagan, and arguably since McGovern ran in 1972, if not, indeed, since Truman anticipated--and unsuccessfully tried to head off--the McCarthy era, although it has, of course, intensified since 9/11.

And the hawkophilia, too, is nothing new.  Why else was Ron Dellums persuaded not to begin work on restructuring the post-Cold War military when he took over chairmanship of the House Armed Services Committee in 1992?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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So What Do We Do? (0.00 / 0)
I've enjoyed reading this series and wrestling with this different way of thinking about what is going on. Your analysis makes a lot of sense and explains some things that can't be explained otherwise. But I'm not clear what the implications are. Assuming this analysis is correct, what do we do in response? How can we change this situation? Will us understanding the analysis lead to change? Or is there something else we should do? What's the next step?

All Will Be Revealed! (0.00 / 0)
Would you believe some will be revealed?  Well, it will.  As I just noted in response to a comment on my latest diary, Cleanup Hitters Needed! ("Can't Anyone Here Play This Game?" Edition), my next big thing to tackle along these lines is the inhibitions liberals have to reconfiguring the political rules, the fear of becoming "just like them."

These inhibitions are healthy in one sense--we should not want to become maliciously lawless, which is what they frequently are.  But, on the other hand, the shift from level 3 to level 4 doesn't mean a loss of all standards. That's just what it means for conservatives.

So, if all goes as planned, I should have a diary up later today that will start laying some groundwork for answering your questions.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Where's the que? (0.00 / 0)
I'd like to get in line early, once ya start making your own rules:

"This is yet another example of how Democrats play inside the set of preset rules-like good little level 3 social conformists-while Republicans make their own rules."

Or, are you planning to try and make Republicans play nicely?

I'd prefer the former, but we often disagree.

More seriously,

Democrats are the social conformists, while Republicans are non-conforming rule-breakers....am I alone in seeing this as an inversion of the concept that the Democrats are a liberal party infused with the social anarchy and experimentation of the 1960's, while the crisp, clean, god-fearing conservatives stand for tradition and the Rule of Law?



"It sounds wrong...
     ...but its right."


Wait Till Next Weekend (0.00 / 0)
I plan to do two or three posts on this problem.  The short answer is that the experience of normal stage 3 to stage 4 transition should guide us.  The level 3/level 4 distinction is not the same as the liberal/conservative distinction, so it shouldn't be hard to avoid becoming like them.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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