You don't get it Matt.... (0.00 / 0)

Joke Line is always right...to borrow a line from George Orwell's Animal Farm....

How dare you pajama wearing slouches, living in your parents basement criticize the work of the great Joe Klein?

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by: kekuta @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 11:14:53 AM CST

I am sad...so sad... (0.00 / 0)

now that Joke Line is a 'blogger' we will be smeared with the same 'unreliable...lying...tool of the oligarchs' meme that is so richly deserved by this balding, pathetic excuse for a journalist.

I'v'e got it!

Time for a bloggers ethics panel!

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.

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by: ACitizen @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 12:55:32 PM CST

Let Them Eat Cake! (0.00 / 0)

Jane:

"That assumes that there are errors," she said. And hung up on me.

Matt:

And now the editor of the piece won't concede there is any problem whatsoever and is hanging up on bloggers who ask questions.

I'm sorry. This is all a big misunderstanding.

What she meant to say was, "Let them eat cake!"

But her mouth was full of icing.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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by: Paul Rosenberg @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 13:06:24 PM CST

Key words in Matt's post are (0.00 / 0)

"to the extent that they care........inside Time Magazine, there's probably panic."

Alas, I'm betting there's very little panic inside Time because they've made it clear day in and day out, that they DON'T care about accuracy or fairness. That's why Joe Klein continues to get a column. Actions speak louder thatn words.

Even so, I'm glad that Klein's editor is getting called on her  total lack of professionalism. Paul is right about "Let Them Eat Cake"---traditional journalism is the  modern, American equivalent of the French court of Louis XVI. Clueless. Out of touch. Terminally arrogant. Unaware of the revolution that's headed their way.

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by: Midwest Meg @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 13:26:00 PM CST

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Cake (0.00 / 0)

Poor people baked their bread on top of the ashes and covered it with a layer of thin, super watery flour.  That layer was called "cake."  Rather than getting icing, the poor people got grit mixed in with their food.  I heard this at the tavern where the Minute Men assembled in Lexington or Concord (forget which).  It's kind of disgustiong but made some sense so it stuck.

Let them eat cake?  She really meant it, Paul.

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by: David Kowalski @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 13:56:26 PM CST

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Call me naive (0.00 / 0)

But the most amazing thing about this episode is that Klein didn't even bother to give Rush Holt (the author of the bill) or his staff a call to get a comment, or confirm what his partisan hack source pitched him. That's just fruggin amazing. Could that possibly be just ineptitude or laziness? Hard to believe. I think Klein knew exactly what he was writing. It was partisan crap and he knew it.

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by: ColoDem @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 13:16:53 PM CST

Why on earth would he do that? (0.00 / 0)

As it stands his 'work' is a perfect example of modern American journalism.

It's totally fact free. A state that 'journalists' of all levels in our great nation have been working towards for years.

It's only right that Joke Line, Emperor of all he surveys, be the man to take 'journalism' over the top into what 'Versailles' has always wanted:

Propaganda, created out of whole cloth.

I can hardly wait 'til my next interaction with a stalwart member of the press.

Heh......

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.

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by: ACitizen @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 13:42:35 PM CST

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Exactly (4.00 / 1)

He "knows" that Democrats must be doing something wrong, so its only a matter of figuring out what.

I generally don't have a problem with taking a balanced view of things, trying to see both sides of the issue, etc.  I also don't have a problem with columnists, even liberal columnists, who are going to spend a fair amount of time criticizing Democrats (from the Left or the Right.) But the fact is, Bush is so bad, and Democrats are so focused on simply stopping his horribleness, that these days there just isn't much to say in the way of criticizing Dems. On issue after issue the Republicans have nothing to offer.  They don't support the rule of law, they don't have plans for health care or global warming, and they are totally unable to handle the Iraq situation. Democrats meanwhile (to my dismay) are staying meticulously within the "mainstream" in terms of public statements and proposed legislation.

"Mainstream" writers like Klein don't have much to actually disagree with Democrats on, so they are forced to simply make shit up, or else actually admit the impossible, that one party is right and the other is wrong.

I think this is one more reason Democrats should simply move the Left. We're gonna take shit from these people, so we might as well shape the narratives ourselves. Right now they're just gonna make stuff up about whatever they want, often national security. Start pushing for (overwhelmingly popular) universal health-care, and they'll all be talking about how we're too radical on that. In the same way that it doesn't really hurt Republicans when an editorial says the cut taxes too much, it won't hurt us when an editorial says we want too many people to have health insurance.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

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by: Sam L @ Tue Nov 27, 2007 at 14:34:01 PM CST

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