He Won't Fight

by: Matt Stoller

Mon Dec 17, 2007 at 09:54


Paul Krugman makes the right case against Obama
Matt Stoller :: He Won't Fight
On Saturday Mr. Obama responded, this time criticizing Mr. Edwards by name. He declared that "We want to reduce the power of drug companies and insurance companies and so forth, but the notion that they will have no say-so at all in anything is just not realistic."

Hmm. Do Obama supporters who celebrate his hoped-for ability to bring us together realize that "us" includes the insurance and drug lobbies?

O.K., more seriously, it's actually Mr. Obama who's being unrealistic here, believing that the insurance and drug industries - which are, in large part, the cause of our health care problems - will be willing to play a constructive role in health reform. The fact is that there's no way to reduce the gross wastefulness of our health system without also reducing the profits of the industries that generate the waste.

As a result, drug and insurance companies - backed by the conservative movement as a whole - will be implacably opposed to any significant reforms. And what would Mr. Obama do then? "I'll get on television and say Harry and Louise are lying," he says. I'm sure the lobbyists are terrified.

As health care goes, so goes the rest of the progressive agenda. Anyone who thinks that the next president can achieve real change without bitter confrontation is living in a fantasy world.

Democrats in 2009 are going to have a really hard time getting anything done, for the same reasons the Senate leadership is passing everything Bush wants right now.  There are a very skewed set of incentives in place among decision-makers, and they won't give them up easily.  I had an interesting conversation with an outraged pollster last night on Iraq, where she kept bitterly talking about how the Democrats aren't paying attention to the polls and voting to get us out of Iraq.  "Immigration is complicated, the numbers are complicated.  But Iraq, it's easy.  The public wants the war to end."

She kept expressing bewilderment at how they could make such stupid political decisions.  I walked her through my pet theory, which is that these people like having an excuse to write a blank check to whoever they want whenever they want, usually in the order of $100B, every six months or so, and they don't mind paying the cost, which is other peoples' children.  Any deviance from voting for such blank checks, even if politically popular, makes other decision-makers nervous; if you abandon us on such a lucrative game, how do we know you won't do so when dealing with drug companies or oil companies?  It's a bit like corrupt cops not trusting a cop who refuses a bribe, as per American Gangster.

Clinton and Obama both think that you can sit down and negotiate with these people, that they are reasonable and data-driven and deal in good faith. But they are not.  They operate from a calculus of raw power, and evidence doesn't matter to them.  Iraq and our corporate dominated state is a systems problem requiring a realization that the different social norms reinforce each other.  Without a leader willing to fight, the President will be swallowed up into a vast complex of decisions he just has to make, all of which are somehow strangely conservative, coincidentally.  Of all the candidates, only Edwards is running a race on this dynamic.  If Clinton and Obama see it too, they are keeping their opinions very quiet.

And not that this is related, but the Governor of Iowa, Mari Culver, endorsed John Edwards today.  He's hanging in there.


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I support Obama, but that is precisely my biggest fear. (0.00 / 0)
That he won't fight.

Most Democrats love this field of candidates.  I hate it.  We have my ideal guy, Edwards with no shot at all (mostly because of funding issues), we have someone who has a great UHC plan, balls to fight and smash the GOP, Hillary, but who has Mark Penn and is not even close to being a progressive.

Then we have Obama who needs experience, but that can be overlooked if I was confident enough in his cajones.  I'm not.  Not by a long shot.

So, I have, to quote Bill, rolled the dice and chosen Obama.  But I am still hesitant and do not quite like my choice.

One thing about the Krugman article.  When he said that Edwards' statement at the debate (btw, the exact same statement he makes in all his commercials I see in the Boston-area) saying the stuff about sitting at a table and taking power away from lobbyists, *I* took that statement as being about Hillary.  I think that most people would as well.  He says the exact line in commercials and I take him 100% that he is referring to HRC.

I guess it would be prudent for Edwards to say really what he means and to whom he is directing that soundbite to.  If I were Edwards, I would cut an ad explaining Hillary's failure in the 1990s AND Obama's naivete (but don't use that exact word!) about "negotiating."  He needs to do this because it isn't clear who he means.

For some reason, it seems that Obama has some pathological and deep-seated psychological need for Republicans to like him.  Seriously.  It's weird.


What's wrong with it applying to both Hillary and Obama? (4.00 / 2)
But, at the same time, I think that Clinton is much more leery of the health insurance industry's willingness to negotiate in good faith than Obama--the Harry and Louise shit was directed at her, after all.

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You didn't understand my point. (0.00 / 0)
I live in the Boston area.  I have seen those commercials with that exact line in it from the Des Moines debate.

When the average person here's that line they are thinking ONLY Hillary.  Why, because she's been the perceived frontrunner and she's the ONLY one Edwards has been attacking so far.  Plus, she's perceived to be inherently closely related to the health care issue for the average person.  Indeed, most people don't even know Obama has a UHC.

Since Edwards has been attacking Hillary, and only Hillary thus far, it would behoove his campaign to make some distinctions and make it clear that he doesn't think Obama's negotiation plan is realistic.  He's got to be more specific if that's what he means.  Because if he isn't, he suceeds in only tearing down HRC at this point, doing Obama's job for Obama!

For some reason, it seems that Obama has some pathological and deep-seated psychological need for Republicans to like him.  Seriously.  It's weird.


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Hillary Not Progressive? (0.00 / 0)
I suggest you take a look at her progressive ratings by a number of organizations before you say such falsehoods again. Her ratings are even higher than many of our reps who most would call very progressive. You can even search the archives of front paged diaries here and see that here progressiveness has been acknowledged. She is head and shoulders more progressive than Obama when it comes to her votes as is evidenced in the fore mentioned ratings by any number of recognized organizations.

Mark Penn? Penn is good at what he does, one of the best in actually. The fact that he is in a business that has an open door to anyone is just a reflection on his business philosophy - not a reflection on Hillary's progressiveness. Penn's business is very much like a doctor or a lawyer - he and they don't look at who the person is before operating or representing them - they have a code to offer their services to anyone. I don't get that people don't have the capacity to see that either.

Hillary's failure in the 1990's? Please! If you think about it her only failure was to not recognize that she was trying to accomplish TOO MUCH in one bite when it came to changing health care. You do realize that don't you? She didn't fail because her reforms were too weak - she failed because her reforms were too big. We would be much better off today had her plan succeeded. Now she acknowledges that she overreached and that changing health care has to be incremental. It amazes me that more people fail to have the capacity to see all of that.

I'd really do some homework if I were you on exactly what Clinton's progressive credentials are. But then maybe, and I say maybe, you like many others already know but for whatever reasons chose to spread falsehoods rather than facts.


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I wish you would explicate your point about Edwards having no shot at all. (0.00 / 0)


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I like him but it's because of the funding issues. (0.00 / 0)
Him, if he's the nom, being underfunded in the general against the gooper candidate.  That's why I don't think the Dems will pick him.

For some reason, it seems that Obama has some pathological and deep-seated psychological need for Republicans to like him.  Seriously.  It's weird.

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Reality based? (4.00 / 3)
I get it, up to a point. Edwards is using the strawman fallacy in his speeches.
The following is a good example of the strawman fallacy in action:

"And I hear some people saying that they think we can sit down at a table with drug companies, oil companies and insurance companies, negotiate with them and they will voluntarily give their power away. This is a fantasy."

Of course, he never really heard anyone say precisely that.

Consider this argument against diplomacy from the neocons:
"And I hear some people saying that they think we can sit down at a table with Iranians, North Koreans, negotiate with them and they will voluntarily give their power away. This is a fantasy."

Same structure. The strawman has, of course, been a staple of Bush's Iraq rhetoric (cut and run as the only alternative to surge).

One could also use a strawman argument against Edwards:
"And I hear some people saying that they think we can simply 'fight' drug companies, oil companies and insurance companies, without the use of persuasion or negotiation, and they will voluntarily give their power away by waving a white flag of surrender once they realize it is a 'war'. This is a fantasy."

Nobody, of course, actually suggests we just have a friendly chat. Nobody suggests we "fight" special interests with guns.

I would like to hear all three of our candidates describe the actual political strategy in more detail. The president will need to persuade enough members of Congress to make huge changes that go against the grain of entrenched interests.

Saying you will "fight" is only good if you can tell me how you can win your fight.



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No comparison (0.00 / 0)
To compare states who are subject to international pressure with profit-obsessed multi-national corporations whose entire business is built on condemning people to death for profit is not a good comparison.  At all.

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Obama is being misconstrued. (0.00 / 0)
I agree with demondeac and disagree with the original poster, Matt Stoller. As I've commented elsewhere:

The workings of industries are complicated. Obama or anyone can't be expected to craft a plan without some sort of input from drug and insurance companies. That doesn't mean their claims can't then be verified, and that their demands can't be rejected.

When Obama says he wants to bring everyone to the table, it doesn't mean he's inviting the lobbyists to write legislation to screw everyone else. I think it means that he wants to lay things out on the table, open for everyone to see and comment on, rather than having backroom private deals and political jockeying and backscratching.

If the lobbyists don't want to cooperate, and instead insist on something that is clearly only good for them and not the public, Obama wants to inform the nation through television. Krugman sarcasticly questions whether that would leave the lobbyists fearful. Well I think informing the public of the policy issue in question, clearly and honestly, and why he disagrees with the lobbyists would certainly help sway public opinion to his favor.

We need the public to be educated on the issues. But the lobbyists need us to be uninformed, finnicky, and swayed by the nice-sounding soundbites. They need the truth to be unclear so that politicians are forced to compromise good policy away into the policy that has been pushed by various groups into being politically popular policy.


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Reality (4.00 / 1)
Unfortunately IMO none of the health plans are realistic.  All of them will end up papering over the worst problems in our health care system at best.  It won't be until enough Americans realize that we can no afford the type of health care that can pay for anything- any drug, any procedure- when we get sick.  Unfortunately we just aren't there yet.  We still hope that we can pay for anything.

So I agree with Krugman about the problems with Obama's health plan.  The problem in coming up with a solution is... there is no solution yet.


Realistic health plans (0.00 / 0)
I think your view is basically correct.

For some time now I've felt that universal healthcare will not be resolved from a top-down approach.  It's only when mid-sized companies eliminate the health plans for their employees, leading big companies to do the same, and a cascade of new people go off of insurance that we'll see the catalyst for change.

Once enough employers are not paying for insurance, Doctors, hospitals, and the other providers are going to scream bloody murder, because that's when it's going to hit them in the pocketbooks.

I'd like to think progressives or Democrats could get this done from their high seats in government, but I fear that the only way it's going to get done is for a whole lot more people to move off the insurance rolls.

BTW, this is probably obvious, but I think both Krugman and Obama are wrong because both believe that there is some type of immediate solution that can be implemented and can work.


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It probably won't happen this way (0.00 / 0)
But that might not happen for many years.  Or not at all. (companies shedding coverage completely)

And if companies do that, I think it would be in concert with a gov't universal coverage effort to prevent a PR and morale disaster for these businesses.  They will whittle away, sure - but that is different from eliminating coverage altogether.

So I don't see your scenario happening at all.  Or, I see my above scenario - a collaborative approach to save reputation.

The current approach of the 3 candidates I think is an excellent foot in the door for single payer. I think all 3 candidates have a smart meta strategy. Krugman also agreed with this. 


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I've been trying to shake my apathy on healthcare (0.00 / 0)
Not trying to be a smartass here or anything, but just as you believe I am wrong, I believe you are wrong.

I want to care about universal healthcare.  About mandated care or opt-in care, or any other type of improvement to the system.  But I remain apathetic.  I have been on every node of the health insurance range in the last 25 years from rolls royce insurance coverage paid for entirely by my employer, to being uninsured for several consecutive years, and many points in between.  I know the dangers, personally and societally.  I can read Ezra Klein's posts and understand every little thing he's talking about.  And yet...

I believe it's all for naught.

Your point about corporations not wanting to take the P.R. hit seems incredibly naive.  With corporations moving manufacturing facilities lock, stock and barrel out of the country without batting an eye, I can't possibly imagine a scenario where a Board of Directors is fretting about the fallout of yanking health coverage for their employees.

As I insinuated before... I see the Health Insurance industry successfully blocking any significant legislation until after a huge row of dominoes starts falling from small to medium to big sized companies pulling out of the health insurance game.

Sorry... this is as gloomy as I get.  I feel optimistic and energized about much of the rest of the progressive agenda, and I truly have a long term view of it.  Universal healthcare just continues to lie beyond any horizon I have an eye on.  I wish it were in view for me.


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reply (0.00 / 0)
btw, i've done corporate PR.  morale and attracting employee candidates is very very important to them. it's a very competitive war for talent out there - i'm talking management here, not manufacturing. benefits are crucial. 

so your perspective is limited.  Again, i've been in the trenches.  i know corporate america.

 


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theories of change (0.00 / 0)
First, a quick correction-- it was the governor of Iowa's wife that endorsed Edwards, not the still-neutral Chet Culver himself. A lot of people are reading this as a surrogate thing the way they did when Christie Vilsack endorsed Kerry in late 2003, and they may be right (the Edwards campaign, smartly, is clearly promoting that idea). But its a distinction.

Second, while as an Obama supporter I sometimes have doubts about whether his message is strong enough (though I think its gotten stronger/more populist of late), I think the gulf that exists between me and Krugman is simple: I don't see the naivete that he talks about, and never have. When I see Obama talk about not forcing people out of the table, I see a realism not borne of unwillingness to fight, but a clear strategic sense that you can never really remove these people from the table and instead, you need to get around them and force them to go along with change from other angles (including dissension from within-- keep in mind that a LOT Of people in the health care industry are frustrated with the status quo but disempowered). It would be naivete to think that you can do that without a huge fight, but I simply don't see that in the comments that Krugman and others cite. Instead, I just see a different take on how to arrive at progressive results, one borne out of his own experience and one that I tend to favor slightly.

Edwards is my clear second choice, and I think he often does a better job often of starkly framing what's wrong and the reality that people won't roll over, yes. But the reason I prefer Obama, and many others I speak to as well, is that Edwards strikes me as a killer advocate, but not necessarily as effective on rallying the public and Congress around consensus for change. You need to stand up and demand change as he was saying on several Sunday shows, but simply demanding it and rallying the people around it isn't enough-- you need to organize and strategize for it as well, and convey that kind of depth.

Obama has a clear theory of change that I think has the most promise, even with its pitfalls and the reality that it sometimes does seem to not convey an adequate of partisanship and populism. I think he very much appreciates the bitterness of the battles ahead, and has indeed fought them for a while-- as a community organizer, as a state senator and so forth. He just chooses (sometimes to his detriment) to not emphasize that side of things a lot, but its very much there and lately hitting its stride, and that's reflected in his support. At the end of the day, he and Edwards are two sides of the same coin. I see merit in both and prefer either to Clinton, but ultimately for a host of observations and experience-based reasons, I simply prefer the Obama approach and shudder to see it simplistically labeled as naive or weak.


Obama is trying to be good cop, Edwards is trying to be bad cop. (0.00 / 0)
You need both strategies to close the deal in the end.  Obama emphasizes the carrots and Edwards emphasizes the sticks but both are required and neither one succeeds on its own.

I actually think they'd make a really successful tag team, if we had a system where one could be president and the other prime minister (ie, a system with two nearly equally powerful leadership positions).  Pres/VP is not quite good enough, although I could imagine Edwards taking on Obama as a VP and negotiator-in-chief to his threatener-in-chief.  I don't think Obama would ever choose Edwards as a VP which kindof speaks poorly of him: I don't know that he appreciates the need for a credible threat, a bad cop.  To borrow from Paul Rosenberg's analysis, if you want to be an elite progressive and cut elite progressive deals, then you need a credible threat of left-wing populism in the background, a movement lead by Sherrod Browns and John Edwardses that you, the heroic elite progressive, are generously steering.  Obama not only declines to participate in a populist left (fair enough), but seems to actively (or at least vocally) disrespect it, which may mean he doesn't understand the vital role it plays in the ecology.

If McCain had been elected president in 2000 and DeLay had been majority leader, that would have been a pretty effective goodcop/badcop situation.  It's too bad we can't ever expect to get a credible badcop out of our congressional leadership, because our caucuses are too ideologically diverse (and not big enough) to be credibly threatening to any significantly powerful interest.  Given that we're pretty well always gonna be looking at wheeler-dealers on our side of the Congress, then installing our bad cop in the presidency is not such a bad idea.


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Candidates probably not that bothered (0.00 / 0)
First, looking at the Krugman piece cold, those are pretty crude strawmen from both Obama and Edwards.

Second, why do you suppose prez candidates necessarily run in order to do stuff - especially, as with healthcare, in an area where a succession of prezes over 70 years have failed?

My guess would be that the Dem 3 are well aware that nothing radical will move in a trifecta 111th, and they're fine with that.

Of course, for the voters, you need to trot out the sort of bollocks quoted by Krugman.


ironic (0.00 / 0)
Its so ironic that a community organizer of color, is being attacked by progressives. 

some of you need to get out of the suites (0.00 / 0)
and into the streets. test your progressive theories up close and personal...

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When he attacks progressives? (4.00 / 2)
How ironic.  Those he attacks are the very ones who reply.

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the community organizer loved by Wall Street (4.00 / 3)
Do you deny that Edwards is the candidate big business fears the most? Obama and Hillary both have huge support from Wall Street.

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You can do better than this (4.00 / 5)
Possibly the laziest accusation of racism I've read all primary season.

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That was so long ago (0.00 / 0)
I flipped burgers twenty years ago. But that doesn't make me any more blue collar than Bill Gates.

He's so much more "law professor" than he is "community organizer."


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Obama vs edwards (0.00 / 0)
On this point Edwards reminds me of Jimmy Carter and Obama of Lyndon B Johnson. 

The problem with the "He wont fight" complaint is that it is a conservative critique, naive, and "fighting" would just make no progressive policy get passed.


Yes, When Conservatives Controlled Congress They Spent Years Complaining That Dems Didn't Fight Them (4.00 / 5)
And fighting for the New Deal, and the Great Society (Medicare, Head Start, the Voting Rights Act, etc.)--what were we thinking?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Not So (0.00 / 0)
We all agree the industry will fight, of course they will.  But I think Obama is asking Edwards to be realistic.  For Edwards or any of his supporters to ignorantly believe they will be excluded is dangerous.  He'd be a one-term prez in the vain of Carter because his most ardent supporters dont have a proper understanding of the electorate.

The electorate is what gives electeds, industries, organized bodies or institutions their political power. 

As much as I want it, I know we cannot exclude the industry from the conversation because the electorate has not changed. 

Therefore it remains succeptibale to the billion dollar war chest of the industry.

Hillary knows best what its like to face their all out opposition. 

Obama is promoting to publicly go to the electorate.  When you change its opinions, then you have an upperhand at the table and in the public. 

When that happens, the industry must recalibrate and adapt.

I remind you the people surrounding her now, advised her husband to tell her to walk away from the fight.


Pretty hard to have a discussion when.... (0.00 / 0)
...the facts are totally ignored. Statements such as this:

As much as I want it, I know we cannot exclude the industry from the conversation because the electorate has not changed.

Do not square up with the facts as revealed by polling. Read my post:

The American people know something is rotten....and they have for fifteen years.

So, yeah...the electorate hasn't  changed. They've been yelling for politicians to take action on this issue at the top of their lungs. The politicians have been listening to sound of big money rushing into their campaign chests. It's been saying, 'Do nothing...chill, do nothing and there's more where this came from.'

Now, explain how Edwards doesn't know what he's talking about.

Let's be clear, I've been listening to pundits, experts, industry liars, low-info losers and everyone but my dog talk about how the health care industry is broken for forty years. Health care costs, at the current rate of inflation, will consume the entire GDP by 2050. What does that really mean? It means that the insurance companies will find a way to throw another 100 million folks off the roles of the insured in order to survive. Obama prattling about 'working together' clearly shows he's a sellout to the insurance companies. The Hill is the number one recepient of Big Pharma cash in the Senate.

Edwards is the only one who understands what must be done.

Nationalize the entire mess and run it as per Medicare.

Crap arguments about mandates, SCHIP and all the rest are distractions engineered by the insurance pirates and their enablers.

Further,  criticizing him for taking the lead on this is the hallmark of the low-info citizen. Stop listening to the corporatist media; do some research and give over the unsubstantiated assertions about what the citizenry knows and wants.

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.


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Low info losers? That's a mistake, and you're a literalist (0.00 / 0)
"low-info losers" as you say - you know, compared to blog posters, most people are "low info." But showing contempt for low info people is naive. 

That's because most people don't progress from low info to high info.  You seem to want to discount their vote or opinion, that your more informed opinion should rule.  Obama is strategically talking about an inclusive process - which is what low info people think politics should be. 

We high info partisans see it differently. We want confrontation, we say that is the way to achieve policy results..  But most importantly, there is no way in heck to know what any of these people will do.  This is all positioning, and you take it as literal. I, like you, prefer Edwards *rhetorical* approach.  However, in practice, we have no idea if it will differ.

Edwards may say he will openly "F-U" to the insurance industries...but we really don't know.  He may very well offer them a "seat at the table" - but again, who knows how much input they'll have at that table. That's strictly procedural.  All Obama is saying is that they'll be at the table.

You do engage in a lot of optimism about Edwards; you literally take him at his word.  I don't do that for any politician.  And I don't think it's fair to personally bash people who don't think like me. 


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Don't hire Krugman as your campaign consultant (0.00 / 0)
Oh man. There are so many problems here.

Krugman is great on policy but is demonstrating, again, his political naivete. I just wrote a diary on this (here) last week...

http://www.openleft....

It is an absurd strawman - no, it's beyond that, it's bordering on not-reality based - to say Obama "isn't going to fight." Go to his website and pick any speech and see if he sounds like he doesn't want to fight.

The question isn't whether he'll fight. It's weird to doubt him on that, I really don't understand where it's coming from. The question - and this is a point of legitimate disagreement, albeit one that's nearly obscured by doubting his sincerity - is how. What is a winning message for this primary, and for the general? If straight-up populism is so great, and Edwards is such a great practitioner of it, why hasn't he blown Obama out of the water in Iowa?

And this is just in a primary. We know what all the counter-messaging to a narrowly drawn populist message looks like. Liberal elitists, blah blah blah. People are with us on this issue but we still have to reach them, we still have to communicate effectively! Obama and Axelrod are doing just that - they are laying out the contours of a story about how to beat that response. They're playing chess while Edwards and Krugman are playing checkers.


Of Course He'll Fight! (4.00 / 3)
Obama is perfectly willing to take on Krugman, as well as "some Democrats" who want to exclude faith from the public sphere and those who say we only invaded Iraq because of oil.

The question is, will he be as confrontational with those who oppose us as he has is with us. 

That's what we want to know.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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Did you read my other diary? (0.00 / 0)
The one I linked to? I liked the way the Obama camp engaged with Krugman. People characterized it as a personal attack for some reason; I didn't see it as that at all. There's a tension between having any kind of a substantive policy debate during a campaign and creating the kind of muddled message environment that turns off less-engaged voters.

I never understood the hall of mirrors effect around that  line from the faith speech, which I found to be an unremarkable part of a generally excellent speech that said a lot of things that needed saying.


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Maybe (4.00 / 1)
and maybe not. That's the problem. While I agree Obama often SAYS he's going to fight for this or that, we have absolutely no basis to believe it. He has never been in a competitive general election for ANYTHING. Ever. We have no idea if he will even fight to defend his own name. And his record in the Senate does not suggest he will take anything big on, especially anything unpopular, and fight for it.

He's a big question mark. Probably the reason a lot of people like him (they see him as everything they want, whether he is or not). But also why I will take anyone in this field, ANYONE, other than him (well, anyone other than Kucinich and Gravel). And I've met him and think he's an incredible human being. That's how worried I am.


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he's hardly a question mark (0.00 / 0)
Look at his response to the HRC camp's attacks last week. Textbook jujitsu - and it seems like there's broad consensus that he won a whole series of press cycles off of it. Iowans hate that kind of stuff with the fire of a thousand suns. But Obama was ready for that because they knew exactly what question the HRC camp would be asking themselves - namely, "how do we make this about race without looking like we're making it about race." See also: Ford, Harold, 2006.

A post at tpmcafe last week made this case really well:

The difference is that the tactic won't work with Obama. The patrician Kerry did not know how to deal with guttersnipe attacks. He was so utterly unused to them.

All African-American men are used to them, especially one who made it to Harvard Law, the US Senate and a Presidential candidacy despite his race, his name, and his exotic heritage.

In politics, it is an advantage to come from nowhere and nothing. You learn how to push back. Hard.

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