Blogs Still In The Wilderness

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 15:18


Two year ago, Peter Daou wrote about the progressive blogosphere in the wilderness:

Last September, I published an essay laying out what I saw as the scope of blog influence, with 'influence' defined as the capacity to alter or create conventional wisdom. I used a triangle construct to set out the relationship between the netroots, the media, and the political establishment: "Looking at the political landscape, one proposition seems unambiguous: blog power on both the right and left is a function of the relationship of the netroots to the media and the political establishment. Forming a triangle of blogs, media, and the political establishment is an essential step ... Simply put, without the participation of the media and the political establishment, the netroots alone cannot generate the critical mass necessary to alter or create conventional wisdom."

I concluded that "if the netroots alone can't change the political landscape without the participation of the media and Democratic establishment, then there's no point wasting precious online space blasting away at Republicans while the other sides of the triangle stand idly by."

The NSA scandal and the Alito confirmation hearings are just two more examples of the left's broken triangle and of the isolation of the progressive netroots. A flurry of activity among bloggers, online activists, and advocacy groups is met with ponderously inept strategizing by the Democratic leadership and relentless -- and insidious -- repetition by the media of pro-GOP narratives and soundbites. It's slow-motion-car-wreck painful, and most certainly NOT where the left's triangle should be a half decade into the new millennium, as the Bush-propping machine hums and whirrs, poll numbers rise and fall, Iraq bleeds, scandal dissolves into scandal, terror speech blends into terror speech. The landscape is there for everyone to see, to analyze. Enough time has elapsed to make the system transparent. It is dismaying for netroots activists to see the same mistakes repeated despite the benefit of hindsight.

As the presidential primary season draws to a close, and the congressional primary season begins to heat up, I feel as though Daou's description of the political scene two years ago has changed little. Like 2006, Democrats are badly losing congressional fights, only the issues are things like Iraq instead of Alito.  Then, as now, the Democratic leadership in Congress doesn't allow progressive media a seat at the strategizing table, and so to no one's surprise congressional Democrats and progressive media are on different pages during the important fights. Then, as now, when the progressive grassroots seeks to change Democratic behavior after these defeats by supporting a series of primary challenges, not a single Democratic member of Congress supports a single one of the primary challengers (which is actually worse than 2006, given Rep. Maxine Waters support of Ned Lamont in 2006). Then, as now, the media narratives about the two major stories of the day, Iraq and the Presidential campaign, are not remotely similar to the blogosphere narratives on those subjects.

We are told that the surge is working, Iraq is being taken off the table, and that voters are tired of partisanship and ideology from the left. If the progressive media wasn't in the wilderness, would any of these narratives be prominent right now? There is nothing factual to support any of these narratives: their dominance is entirely a function of superior media manipulation by the right. First, even apart from questioning what "working" means in Iraq, one could easily argue that withdrawal and ethnic cleansing have "worked" in Iraq, since both of those have also taken place. Second, Iraq is still easily the number one issue for voters, according to all but one poll taken this year. Third, Republicans and conservatives continue to run far more right-wing primaries and successful filibusters of popular legislation than Democrats and progressives, yet Democrats and progressives are supposedly equally to blame for stagnation and polarization in Washington. None of these narratives are true, but they all dominate because Republicans, and even some Democrats, are on the same page as conservative media. No one, however, is on the same page with the blogosphere and other forms of progress media. We are in the wilderness.

More in the extended entry.

Chris Bowers :: Blogs Still In The Wilderness
I can think of a few exceptions this year. When the Bill Richardson campaign allowed Matt, Christina Siun and me a seat at the strategizing table, by working together and being on the same page we were quickly able to turn residual forces into a national campaign issue. Now, even Edwards and Obama use it as an attack against Clinton. A little later on, BlogPac and Blue America PAC helped put pressure on Bush Dogs who opposed Schip, scoring four new votes for Schip. I have little doubt that it was the combination of inside and outside pressure that caused the four Bush Dogs to flip, since the tactics we used ere virtually identical to the DCCC's. Further, the threat, and existence, of primary challengers has also helped change some Bush Dog behavior on Iraq.

There have been some successes, mostly arising from times when progressive media and leading Democrats were on the same page because they strategized together (residual forces), or because they simply acted the same way (the Bush Dog S-Chip campaign).  Chris Dodd's success on FISA can also probably be put in this category. As Peter Daou predicted, when progressive media and prominent Democrats are on the same page, victories seem to happen pretty often. As Peter Daou lamented, when progressive media and prominent Democrats are not on the same page, victory seems to pretty much never happen. Without prominent Democratic validaters, we in the progressive grassroots and progressive media can't win these fights on our own. Without progressive media, prominent Democrats have virtually no hope of winning any conventional wisdom formation fights against Republicans.

We-progressive media--remain in the wilderness because we are not given a seat at the strategizing and decision making table. However, the wilderness also goes both ways. I have seen all sorts of "theories of change," about how Obama, Clinton or Edwards will get things done when they are President. However, unless a new Democratic President is willing to bring new progressive media into the strategizing for the fights they will face, I doubt they will get much done. A Democratic administration that maintains a stand-offish, managed, one-way decision making approach to communication strategy will, in the end, find itself taking pretty much the same beatings the first Clinton administration faced from 1993-1994. Even with a solid electoral victory and large congressional majorities, the new President will lose almost every single fight for progressive legislation s/he will face, because the triangle of single narrative of convention wisdom will be closed against him or her. In other words, the new Democratic President will succeed in passing conservative favorites like NAFTA, but fail to pass progressive favorites like Health Care reform.

The simple fact is that we will never have a progressive governing majority in America unless, when major legislative fights are on the horizon, progressive media is given a seat at the strategizing table with leading Democrats on those fights. Since the Alito fight two years ago, Daou's analysis seems to have been proven correct again and again. If Democrats want the advantages that new progressive media offers them, such as not losing every single media fight ever, then they need to do more than tell new progressive media the strategy after the decision has already been made, and then manage new progressive media participants via a series of liaisons. When we are engaging in shared fights, we need a seat at the strategy table. Otherwise, we will all remain in the wilderness, and continue to lose fights even when 70% of public support is behind us.


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Isn't Daou on HRC's payroll now? ... (4.00 / 1)
I don't say it as an indictment .. but since he is there(if in  fact he is) .. what is he doing to change things? .. I don't know about Edwards .. but Obama and Clinton both are top down campaigns .. Clinton clearly holds grudges(don't know about Obama and Edwards on that one .. though it wouldn't be hard to believe if Obama did) .. but it brings me to my main point .. The Washington establishment Dems don't want anything to change .. obviously .. they don't want their power diluted .. for what ever silly reasons .. they are happy with the way things are .. is it because they are now corrupted by all the corporate money?  I don't know .. maybe they enjoy their cocktail parties with Broder and Joe Klein too much .. if we only knew .. that way we could apply the proper pressure for someone like Reid to change

everyone in the wilderness (4.00 / 3)
It's not just blogs, it's good advocacy groups.

Well, yes (0.00 / 0)
As Peter Daou predicted, when progressive media and prominent Democrats are on the same page, victories seem to happen pretty often. As Peter Daou lamented, when progressive media and prominent Democrats are not on the same page, victory seems to pretty much never happen.

Chris wrote this I think to say that both progressive media and prominent Democrats are stronger when they work together. I think what it actually means is that major political leaders are powerful, and blogs are not. If victories are defined as bloggy positions winning, this just means that whatever they want, they get and it's a victory if what they want is also what we want.

Am I missing something here? Or is this just a fancy, Daou-quoting way of saying that the blogs aren't as powerful as either the MSM or members of Congress? Because if it's the latter, then I'm not sure what the implications are.


not quite (0.00 / 0)
I think what it actually means is that major political leaders are powerful, and blogs are not.

Close.  Major political leaders are still political leaders, but they are not powerful because they cannot advance their agenda.  Sure Pelosi can advance a conservative agenda, but does that make her powerful?

Congressional impotence has rendered that institution powerless.  Perhaps it is prestigious and credentialled, but that is it.


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Implications? (0.00 / 0)
I see two possibilities, with very different implications.

The first I outlined before, where powerful political leaders will do what they will and groups on the outside will just declare victory or defeat. This implies an electoral strategy. Get rid of them or change their incentives with primaries, funding, etc.

The second is if Matt is correct in this comment, that Congress is also impotent due to the conservative movement's efficacy in framing, scaring our congressmen and so forth. If this is true, we're nowhere near reaching enough truly progressive Congresspeople that we can make change that way. Instead, a media role is the proper one for blogs to play.

Perhaps this is a false dichotomy, but these seem like they are opposites. Either Congress has all the power or it has none, maybe?


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Democrats can't advance their agenda (0.00 / 0)
One of the things I am arguing is that Democrats can't advance their agenda, even when they are in the majority, because they  don't work with progressive media. Sure, they are more "powerful" than progressive media in some senses, but they aren't so overwhelmingly powerful in every area that they don't need help from outside groups.

They clearly need help when it comes to media. The only way they are going to get it is to bring progressive media to the table.

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Do they want to? (4.00 / 2)
  I would very much like to believe that our Democratic leaders really are interested in advancing an agenda at least as progressive as what the Democratic Party stood for in the pre-DLC days. That would require a significant shift to the left, but it would put the Dems where the public is.

  But their reluctance into tapping the resources available to them, such as the blogosphere, suggests otherwise. They'd rather us shut up and go away, so that they can...what? Rubberstamp Republican agendas without having to explain it all the time?

  It appears that the Hoyer/Emanuel crowd really doesn't want to advance a Democratic agenda, deep in their hearts.

  And our best course of action is to replace them with Democrats who do. 

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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The Iron Law of Institutions (0.00 / 0)

indicates that bloggers will never be 'given a seat at the table' not gonna happen guys.

Gonna have to take that sucker.

Maybe take down Emmanuel or sooner, Reid.

Give Miss Nancy  something to chew on next run. Sheehan can make her shit her drawers I'm sure especially as by that time my crystal ball sez The MeatGrinder will not be quiet. Give McNerney the word: Get off the ReichWing tax policy or do without our help.

Activism is what it's all about. Network the 800 political blogs on the left with the progressive grassroots, ignore the dinosaurs of the environmental and choice movements and attack the sick and weak members of the Blue Dog caucus.

Show the Capitulation Caucus that their super-majority dreams are just that without us.

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A bigger question (4.00 / 2)
  We need to ask: Why is Rahm Emanuel a Democrat?

  Why is Steny Hoyer a Democrat?

  Why are the Blue Dogs Democrats?

  I'm not being flip -- we need to find out exactly why these people, who are bitter enemies of progressive values and virtually all the Democratic Party stood for during its mid-twentieth-century zenith, publicly identify with the donkey. There's another major, well-funded political party available that's FAR more amenable to what Emanuel, Hoyer, Baird et al believe in. Why don't they go join it, and leave the Democratic Party to actual Democrats?

  Perhpas I'm missing something. But you'd think that a REAL Democrat would see the blogosphere as a valuable asset and ally to work towards advancing a Democratic platform, not as an annoyance to be swatted away. Of course, if you're not interested in advancing a Democratic platform, you WILL regard blogs as a pain in the butt. But that just gets us back to our original question -- WHY doesn't Rahm Emanuel just run for office as a Republican, a party that far better reflects his deepest values? He wouldn't have to put up with the pesky netroots as a gooper.

  Maybe the question needs to be formulated as such, and addressed to the entire community: If you're hostile to progressive values, why are you a Democrat?

  We have a five-way primary here in Maryland's Sixth District. I'm helping organize a candidates' forum this coming February. And "Why are you a Democrat?" will be the one question every candidate will have to answer.

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


Great question! (0.00 / 0)
Possible answers:

The DINO in question could not be elected in his/her district as ReThug.

The DINO in question found it easier to get elected as a 'Democrat' during the ReThuglican hegemony from 95 to present. No actual 'Democratic' action was ever expected of them since they were a minority party.

  This appears to be the case here in CA and I think its a large part of what we're seeing now. I don't think Hoyer/The Rabbit et. al. know what to do so they do what the lobbyists/consultant class tell them to.

And since that group of folks is handing out the same advice, in other than cultural issues, as they did to the ReThugs.....

You get the same policy agenda: 'We luv Corporate America'. Sung to the music of 'Kumbaya' with Obama on bass.

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The next question (4.00 / 2)
  Don't the local central committees vet these candidates for signs of DINOhood? You'd think that central committees are made up of real Democrats. I sit on my own county's CC, and believe me, I screen for DINOs.

  I've said it here before: Every progressive-blog denizen needs to become the Democratic Party. And the best way to do that is by joining your local central committee.

  That's the ONLY way we turn this thing around. No more Liebermans.

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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I have never got to it yet .. (0.00 / 0)
but here in the Philly burbs .. in Chester County .. I think the Dem party is suffering from the same symptoms as the DC Dems .. Chester County has been a Repub haven for ages .. and despite a glimmer here or there .. they haven't been able to take the ball and run with it

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Partial credit (4.00 / 3)
Emanuel is a Dem because he lives in Illinois 5th congressional district, which is overwhelming democratic (D+18 on the Cook scale).

We sometimes lose track of the fact that we are dealing with impossible egos and ambition, an overwhelming sense of self-worth/entitlement that would drive someone to become a Congressional Leader, let alone a presidential candidate.

Don't hold your breath waiting for these folks to bring us to the table.  Their first priority is power for power's sake.  It's weak and will keep us tamed until we can bring our own people to the table -- and the table is our table.

Getting the Dem candidates to Yearly KOS was a start.  Seeing Elizabeth Edwards comment at MyDD and KOS is a start.  But We need to have them engage us as a legitimate media, on our turf.  It should be expected, required, not simply a stunt or tip of the hat to the throng and barely acknowledge the comment sections. 

The candidates themselves need to learn the dynamics involved -- and those that are receptive need to be encouraged.  I found Robin Weirauch's campaign manager was very receptive to my advice after posting a diary at KOS when she was running in the Special Election for OH-5 (R+10).  I told him that next time she needed to stick around for a couple of hours after she posted a diary instead of just a hit-n-run.

Sure enough, she set aside a enough time to answer questions and thank supporters when she posted again a week or so later.  She and her team got it, that quick!  That kind of candidate is one of us, we just have to find some that aren't in a predominately GOP district, like Paul Hackett in the R+13 OH-2.

Right now, the netroots is just another advocacy group to the major candidates, and the ACT-Blue piggybank just another PAC (legally per the FEC, now). Hillary Clinton's number one priority is becoming president, and has been since she moved to New York.  Barack Obama has enormous skills, and an even bigger ambition to ride this wave of his without paying any real "dues." 

Our pet policies will take a back seat to both of their egos.  Winning is everything -- as it is to my favorite candidate, Edwards.  Go watch "...And Justice For All" again to see just how important winning is to any litigator.  The fact that he diggs beating up on the forces of influence and power that I too believe are our biggest problems in this country, corporate hegemony of everything, is convenient -- but it's not like the guy is willing to settle for a less powerful job than president and still work against those forces.

We need to identify and nurture our own progressive candidates, and understand that this may be a generational struggle to build our own table.

We're just getting started.


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Agreed. (0.00 / 0)
Bloggers can be extremely impatient.

We are making in roads and progress. We're not there yet, but we're slowly making progress.

Also don't forget- so many of our elected officials are 'older' blogging is a new medium and it takes longer for older individuals to embrace new things.

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Peter Daou's "triangle" is missing something (4.00 / 2)
In our society, "the capacity to alter or create conventional wisdom" is highly determined by money. Advertisers influence what the MSM reports. Democratic incumbents in DC are highly influenced by contributors. And sooner or later there will be large-scale business models that start to influence what blogs say. "If Democrats want the advantages that new progressive media offers them" they've got to use that media  to challenge the influence of corporate wealth on politics. And they need to support candidates who acknowledge and take up that challenge.

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What if progressive media are invited to the table (0.00 / 0)
and they don't show up?

Robert Wexler is organizing House Judiciary Committee members to push John Conyers (and Nancy Pelosi) for hearings on impeaching Cheney.

We invited several hundred progressive bloggers to a BlogCall with Wexler on 12/14 and none called in.
http://www.democrats...

The most brilliant theories in the world won't make the slightest difference if real-world opportunities to work on progressive issues with Democratic leaders are ignored.

 


Geez Bob, 1st I heard of this (4.00 / 1)
I'm reasonably well informed, but I'm no major blogger.

Did you contact the major progressive bloggers?  Did you send out an email?  How was this publicized?

Did Matt or Chris know about this call?  MarKOS?  Anyone at FireDogLake who cover this stuff like white on rice?  I don't see a diary here posted by you alerting us to this event.

I'd like to know what you mean by "We" and "invited" when you talk of hundreds of progressive bloggers.  I'm not buying this.

I can't believe you reached out to the progressive blogosphere with this and were ignored.  You can't just put up a sign in the vineyard and expect it to make champaign.  You need to actually whisper into the grapevine to get the ball rolling -- then watch out.

Next time you have one of these calls, let me know.  My email's listed in my profile.


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