Making Deals In Iowa

by: Chris Bowers

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 17:42


No matter how you look at it, Iowa remains extremely close. According to Pollster.com, Clinton, Edwards and Obama are all trending upward. According to Real Clear Politics, Obama is trending down, Clinton slightly up, and Edwards more noticeably up. Depending on who you look at, either Clinton and Obama are tied with Edwards slightly behind, or Clinton is slightly behind with Edwards and Obama tied. However, even though Edwards is not leading according to either polling outfit, Edwards does lead among second-place choices, which could give him a key edge once caucusing begins. In short, any of the top three candidates could finish anywhere in the top three once all is said and done.

In a campaign this close, the deciding factor might very well be what deals the different campaigns can make with each other. In the event they fail to reach the 15% threshold in any given precinct, every campaign will probably instruct the local campaign precinct captain to caucus for a single, different candidate. The candidate who is able to scoop up the most of these second-place endorsements will probably win the caucus.

So, which candidate is each campaign likely to endorse as second place choices? In the extended entry, I offer some quick thoughts on the subject.

Chris Bowers :: Making Deals In Iowa
Edwards and Obama
Given that neither Obama nor Edwards can afford a Clinton victory in Iowa, it seems highly unlikely to me that either campaign will instruct their precinct captains to go with Clinton as a second-place choice. However, they are also competing against each other, it also seems unlikely to me that the Edwards campaign would go with Obama, or that the Obama campaign would go with Edwards, unless there is a mutual agreement to endorse each other. Such a deal might make sense for both campaigns, since Edwards and Obama are stronger in different areas of the state and since it would probably send Clinton into a third place finish. Then again, if, for example, Edwards was able to secure a Richardson deal, or Obama was able to secure a Biden deal, then it wouldn't make sense for the campaign without any other deals to enter into a mutual Obama-Edwards agreement. The campaign with the second deal would probably then cruise to victory, and the campaign without a second deal would be left holding the bag.

Clinton
If Clinton can score a deal with either Edwards or Obama, her campaign should take it and not look back. Her strength is probably more evenly spread across the state than any other campaign's, and so any deal with what I imagine is the more regionally based Obama and Edwards campaigns would probably benefit her. However, I think such a deal is unlikely, because Edwards and Obama both need Clinton to stumble in Iowa, and as such are not planning on helping her. So, Clinton needs to look to one of the smaller campaigns. Kucinich is probably a dead-end, and I also don't think Dodd would really work for Clinton either, what with his comments on Clinton's high negatives. However, Biden has never really criticized Clinton, and their supporters feel like a natural fit. Also, Clinton has made some noise about selecting Richardson as a VP, and his long resume might compliment her argument for President. I bet Biden and Richardson are her campaign's two top targets, and I wouldn't be surprised if her campaign announces a deal with either.

Kucinich
Well, he struck a deal with Edwards last time, so why not again? Seems to make sense.

Richardson
His campaign has overwhelmingly focused on residual forces, so I imagine he would go with the top-tier candidate who is closest to him on that position. From where I sit, that is Edwards.

Biden
I can't imagine he would go with Obama, given earlier foot in the mouth moments on that front. My feeling is that Clinton makes the most sense for his campaign.

Dodd
Dodd is the hardest one to read, in my opinion. However, if forced to guess, my feeling is that he would lean toward Obama, Mainly, this is because I have everyone else leaning toward either Edwards or Clinton. Someone has to lean toward Obama.

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It is probably too bad that after a year of campaigning, everything could come down to the deals the campaigns make with each other. Then again, if winning Iowa requires making more deals than your opponent, perhaps it is also a test of who can get more passed in Congress once s/he becomes President.

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The party should pass a rule next year (4.00 / 1)
Only certify delegates from states with primaries.  Caucuses are way to undemocratic and represent just a tiny fraction of the electorate.  At the very least, a caucus state shouldn't be the first state with the power to influence all the others, that's just ridiculous.

It's funny (0.00 / 0)
So you are in favor of urban areas due to numbers dictating to rural areas? My point is that its not as simple as you write.

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In what way? (0.00 / 0)
How are caucuses undemocratic?  It's just a different form of democracy. Think of it this way: the Iowa caucuses are one way of electing delegates which doesn't involve Diebold machines.

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How are they not Democratic? (0.00 / 0)
Simply put - it's not one person - one vote.

You should read all the diaries on mydd.com by demoinesdem.  Her insights show what a sham the caucus system is for a democratic process.

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I've read the series (0.00 / 0)
The caucus system is flawed and inefficient, but it's far from a sham.  From a purely technical standpoint, it fulfills the basic definition of a democratic process.

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Richardson (0.00 / 0)
Yeah, I suppose he might make a deal with Edwards for that reason. On the other hand, he might make a deal with Clinton or Obama with the provision that he be in the top of the short list for the VP slot. If even half or 3/4 of Richardson's supporters go Hillary's way that could be the ball game, and they seem to be attracted to candidates with "experience," which supposedly has. That seems like the more likely scenario.

Gah, pressed "post" not preview (0.00 / 0)
I meant, Richardson's supporters seem to be attracted to candidates with experience, and Clinton supposedly is the candidate in the top three with experience.

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Richardson (0.00 / 0)
He would likely make a deal with Clinton, considering at heart he really is a moderate in every other category, save residual forces.

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1.2.3.&4 (0.00 / 0)
1. Why would a campaign announce any deals publicly? I don't see the benefit to that? What am I missing?

2. If either Edwards or Obama were to support Hillary as their second choice, then my head will explode right here in front of the computer screen. I will warn you in advance.

3. Richardson could be inclined to support another man of color....and I think that Dodd and Biden like Obama better than Edwards, .....but is it in anyone's interest (besides Obama's) to turn this in to a two-person race on Jan. 4?

4. My personal biased spin: I am banking on Obama's charisma and the fact that so many folks have seen him in person giving terrific speeches all over Iowa, that caucus goers will flock to him as their 2nd choice despite who they are 'told' to support.


I expect no big deals this time (0.00 / 0)
No public announcements from any candidate about whom their supporters should back as a second choice.

Individual precinct captains may be cutting deals independently, though. It doesn't take much for an Obama captain to figure out that depriving Clinton of delegates should be a priority, for instance.

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announce publicly (0.00 / 0)
There's two kinds of deals that can be made. The first is more likely to be announced publicly, the second not so much.

The first deal is the 15% / 25% viability threshold deal. Those should be announced publicly because (a) the caucus-goers are more likely to abide by the deal if they hear it from the candidate ahead of time and (b) that information is quite likely to come out later anyway so why not announce it? These announcements would most likely involve the 2nd tier to 1st tier endorsements.

The second kind of deal is a the backroom kind where the "fractional" caucus-goers that are "extra votes" may be moved among the viable candidates to change how the "rounding" works out. This is where Clinton and Edwards, as an example, might decide they'd like to trim Obama's count as much as possible. The more experienced your precinct captains, the more likely you can make this strategy work. This deal is unlikely to be announced -- it doesn't need to be as it is more of a contingency for a special case situation.

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Disagree (0.00 / 0)
Why would supporters of candidates that have no chance of winning the nomination do anything other than support the candidate (Edwards, Clinton or Obama) they like best?  According to desmoinesdem, last time Kucinich supporters split between Edwards and Dean while Edwards picked up a ton of Gephardt supporters who weren't being told what to do!  Makes sense to me.
 

Precinct captains (0.00 / 0)
Precinct captains will follow orders, and they make up something like 3% of the electorate. They also can be presuasive, and urge others to come along.

Most supporters of non-viable candidates will just go to their second place choices, but a not insignificant minority will follow instructions.

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Well, (0.00 / 0)
Despite Biden's comments about Obama, I don't think he would rule out supporting Obama. Obama has made it seem that he has the most knowledge regarding foreign policy out of the Top Three(tm), so a Biden endorsement isn't out of the question.

Dodd is the civil right candidate, and Obama is black. An endorsement is a possibility.

Richardson has been kissing Hillary's ass since day one -- he'll endorse her.

The candidates should hope Gravel doesn't endorse anyone. ;)


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