Nomination At A Glance, Caucus Eve Edition

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 18:06


I’m starting to think that, with the exception of tomorrow morning’s Zogby tracking numbers, there won’t be any more polls released before Iowa. Since the glance has two purposes, to make it easier to understand the state of the campaign and to predict the winner of the nomination before Iowa begins, this means that it is just about time for me to try and fulfill the latter purpose.

For the nearly final projection, I have decided to take the average of the most recent poll from every polling organization that polled Iowa since December 26th, and combine it with the sensitive poll estimate from Pollster.com. For New Hampshire, I have done the same thing. For national polls, I’ve decided to just use the Pollster.com projections. For momentum, I’m using the Iowa to New Hampshire and Iowa and New Hampshire to national, numbers produced by fladem.

I have to say, I don’t feel terribly confident about these numbers, as they seem to be projecting both the Democratic and Republican nominations to follow the same path that the 2004 Democratic nomination followed. In truth, Iowa is so close right now, there will probably be very little momentum from it. No matter who actually wins Iowa, this could very easily allow Clinton and McCain to win New Hampshire, putting them both in good shape to win their respective nominations. As an election forecaster, it isn’t fun trying to pick winners in contests where enormous structures are balanced on the head of a single, teetering pin. Still, in the extended entry, here are my nearly final pre-Iowa projections nonetheless.
Chris Bowers :: Nomination At A Glance, Caucus Eve Edition
Democratic Nomination, At A Glance
State Date # of Polls Clinton Obama Edwads
Iowa Jan 3rd 8 27.8% 28.9% 26.1%
New Hampshire Jan 8th 4 33.9% 25.8% 17.7%
National Feb 5th NA 44.7% 25.7% 13.3%

Now, factoring in momentum, these numbers project out to the following results:

Projected Democratic Results
State Date Obama Clinton Edwads
Iowa Jan 3rd 28.9% 27.8% 26.1%
New Hampshire Jan 8th 41.3% 36.6% 14.2%
National Feb 5th 51.2% 37.2% 6.8%

As I said, I don’t feel terribly confident about these numbers. I’m not convinced that a narrow victory in Iowa would give Obama enough of a boost to win New Hampshire. I am also not convinced that two narrow victories would give him enough of a boost to take over the national lead. However, this is what we should expect based on the results of the 1988 and 2004 Democratic campaigns. While that isn’t much to go on, trying to figure out how much momentum someone will get from an earlier state victory is an extremely difficult and nebulous task, at best, no matter how much data you have. Further, Obama might not win Iowa, or even finish in second. However, at this late date, with one or two Iowa poll still pending, if I am pushed to pick a winner in Iowa and in the nomination campaign overall, right now I’ll pick Obama.

And now to the Republican numbers…

Republican Nomination, At A Glance
State Date # of Polls Romney Huckabee McCain
Iowa Jan 3rd 8 28.4% 28.1% 12.4%
New Hampshire Jan 8th 4 28.3% 9.6% 31.0%
National Feb 5th NA 15.4% 25.6% 13.9%

Now, factoring in momentum, these numbers project out to the following results:

Projected Republican Results
State Date Romney Huckabee McCain
Iowa Jan 3rd 28.4% 28.1% 12.4%
New Hampshire Jan 8th 42.8% 12.8% 27.5%
National Feb 5th 40.9% 18.1% 7.4%

Once again, I don’t feel great about these numbers. However, if I am forced to pick a Republican winner in Iowa and in the nomination contest overall, right now I’ll pick Romney.

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Michigan. (0.00 / 0)
If Huckabee wins Iowa, I vote for Romney.
If Romney wins Iowa, I vote for Paul.

I fear Huckabee like the plague; Romney is a joke.

Fucking up Republican primaries because my state is a bullheaded dumbass FTW!


I agree... (4.00 / 1)
It seems like Obama and Romney should win Iowa (and thus NH and the nomination), but it feels like that is simply not going to happen. I still say Edwards and Huck take Iowa by small margins, and neither one will win NH.

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

NH mo (0.00 / 0)
My gut tells me that it will be so close that the momentum will not be sufficient to carry forward to the degree you predict.  I don't fault your methodology (I don't have anything better).  But this year just feels different to me, and I am unconvinced that an Iowa win will translate into NH voting changing so dramatically.  I think that the perception of a "tie" in Iowa will hurt Clinton some (that whole inevitability thing), but I don't know that it will pump up Obama that much.  Also, I think if Edwards keeps pace with the others that it could push him up in NH a bit (but not enough to overtake either of the other two).  So, unless there is a dramatic win in Iowa (i.e., more than 5 points between 1st and 2nd), I don't think it will register much in NH.  Where that leaves us is anyone's guess.

Battle Royal in California, bitches!!! (0.00 / 0)
Obama wins Iowa by 3.
Clinton wins NH by 6.
Obama wins SC by 7.

And then it's superdupertuesday, right, with all eyes on California and on a collection of smallish reddish states in the plains and mountain west?

It'd be fun.  I think the machine can deliver California for Clinton, which is lame, but Obama might could pick up all those red states.

I find the idea of Obama winning Iowa very hard to believe, somehow.  All those great big crowds of starfuckers just aren't going to be in all the right precincts at all the right times, are they?


I just came from an Edwards (0.00 / 0)
event in Des Moines, and am heading back out. Need a beer...

A couple of points:
1.  I believe that Obama may have already had the Iowa bounce into New Hampshire.  The October average was Clinton 41, Obama 21.  The race now is essentially 32 - 30.  This is a swing of 18 points - about what you would expect.  This is consistent with what I saw in 2004 - Kerry began to close on Dean before Iowa in New Hampshire.  The reason for this is simple:  the Iowa narrative was adopted by the press in New Hampshire - and responded accordingly.

Before the WHDH poll I had thought we were seeing the same thing happen with Edwards.  The last two NH polls had Edwards at 20 and 21 respectively - which suggest the dynamic from 2004 was repeating itself.

2.  The WHDH polling is extremely important - it suggests that NH is not as tied to the Iowa narrative.  There are reasons why this might be the case: one is that the last 10 days have been essentially ignored in NH because of the holidays.  The bounce into NH is a product of media coverage of Iowa.  You could argue that the media impact of Iowa has been reduced - and hence the bounce into NH will be reduced.

We shall see.  I believe the WHDH is an outlier.  If the poll is right it is very bad news for Edwards.


The latest BZ poll (0.00 / 0)
out of NH suggests that WHDHD is wrong, and that Edwards is indeed rising in NH (he is up over 8 points from his October average)

The results (which I heard in 801 chop bar) is Clinton 32, Obama 28, Edwards 19.


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