Edwards needs to get 2nd in NH to stay in this (4.00 / 2)

and this poll shows he is within 6 points of doing just that.  Seems to me the wise Edwards strategy would be to ignore Obama and go hard after Hillary to peel away her supporters.  It might just make it an Edwards-Obama race going into Nevada and SC which are more favorable for him than NH...

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by: moreaxe @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 15:44:01 PM CST

2nd makes him (0.00 / 0)

If Edwards can get second in NH, it'll be much harder to ignore him. Beating Clinton twice is significant and the 'lived in Iowa' line won't work for NH.

He'd then have to broaden his message slightly to compete with Obama, but he'd have a shot. Whereas if he can't progress beyond third then it's hard to see where he gets the oxygen to maintain a challenge for long.

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by: Englishlefty @ Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 10:30:39 AM CST

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Concord Monitor poll (0.00 / 0)

Here:

Among likely Democratic primary voters, Barack Obama was the choice of 34 percent of those surveyed and Hillary Clinton was the choice of 33 percent, suggesting the race is a virtual dead heat. John Edwards was next at 23 percent, followed by Bill Richardson at 4 percent and Dennis Kucinich at 3 percent.

No internals yet. I'm going to guess they polled fewer independents.

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by: Shawn @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 16:19:34 PM CST

CNN/WMUR poll taken Jan. 4 and 5 (4.00 / 1)

Clinton 33 percent

Obama 33 percent

Edwards 20 percent

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by: aiko @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 16:49:10 PM CST

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Thank you (0.00 / 0)

Thanks for keeping track of all this, Chris.

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by: shaej @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 16:20:04 PM CST

Obama is no longer a sideshow (0.00 / 0)

  I think that Barack Obama's Iowa JJ Dinner speech got a few bemused observers who might have leaned Hillary out of habit to pay closer attention to him. And his performance in the caucuses has now fully legitimized him as a "real" candidate -- which has freed a lot of Dem primary voters to support him in their minds.

  I've noticed that in my own local circles. People LIKED Obama, but part of them resisted thinking he was a "legit" presidential candidate.

  That resistance appears to have dissipated. I think that's what's happening.

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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by: Master Jack @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 16:36:01 PM CST

Exactly... (0.00 / 0)

that has been my experience in NH canvassing for Obama, exactly Master Jack.

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by: howardpark @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 16:40:17 PM CST

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Edwards got a bump, too (0.00 / 0)

  In 1977 the Sex Pistols released their revolutionary anti-royalist single "God Save The Queen", one of the most ferocious slices of rock'n'roll ever recorded by anybody. The vicious lyrics earned the Pistols a ban from the BBC, but the single was a commercial blockbuster anyway, shooting up into the Top Ten. Which greatly mortified the authorities.

  Some of the UK national charts left the "God Save The Queen" slot blank in their publications, showing white space where the song was supposed to be listed. Given that the single was a between-the-eyes slam at the British class system, it's no wonder they tried so hard to suppress it.

  That's what the US media is doing to John Edwards. Hillary Clinton finished third in Iowa behind Barack Obama and a blank space.

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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by: Master Jack @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 16:48:56 PM CST

2nd in NH (0.00 / 0)

I feel as though, in order to have any chance, Edwards needs to finish in second in Iowa, too.

Chris, I believe you mean New Hampshire . . .

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by: oregondave @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 17:05:35 PM CST

This Just In from NH! (0.00 / 0)

Well, from America really....

Baaaaa.........Baaaaaaaaa....Baa....Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Of course ex-Senator 'White Space' is facing a truly impossible task as since he doesn't exist!

From OrangeLand we get this very well done and researched diary which proves Master Jack's contention:

http://www.dailykos....

Too ways to the same vile conclustion: Intuition and analysis.

Our nation is in deep, deep shit when the guy who cam in second is reported to have lost while placing third.

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by: ACitizen @ Sat Jan 05, 2008 at 17:11:58 PM CST