South Carolina, Florida Polling Averages

by: Chris Bowers

Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 10:08


Obama appears headed to a clear victory in South Carolina. With a new poll from Zogby, here is the seven-poll average:

Obama: 43.1%
Clinton: 31.0%
Edwards: 13.9%

Obama has camped out in South Carolina since Sunday, while Clinton only appeared in the state on the day of the debate. At this point, if anything, I expect Obama's lead to increase. One wonders what size of victory, if any, can allow him to close the gap in California (where he trails by 12%) and nationally (where he trails by about 8%). I suppose that depends on how much he wins by, how much that victory in covered in the press on Sunday and Monday, and about the tone of the coverage. An 8% deficit is not enormous, and even a 4% bump could carry him to victory in as many as ten states on Super Tuesday (Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, and North Dakota). So, while Obama doesn't need much from South Carolina to stay in the game after Super Tuesday, he does need something of a boost.

In the key Republican Florida primary, with new polls from Strategic Vision and Public Policy Polling, here is the five-poll, entirely post-South Carolina average:

Romney: 23.2%
McCain: 22.6%
Giuliani: 19.8%

Since Huckabee is further behind, and pulling out of the state, it doesn't seem like he will be a factor here anymore. Also, while I think it is good that Romney has a slight lead on McCain in Florida, according to Survey USA, McCain has a 12% lead in early voting. That means Romney needs to win by more than this narrow amount in order to take the state. All three candidates are camped out in Florida form now until January 29th, but Romney appears to have both the momentum and the money here. Whether or not he can overcome McCain's early voting advantage remains to be seen.

Early voting will also be a factor in California, where Romney needs to do well in order to stay ahead of McCain, or at least close to him, on February 5th. The Field poll is the most recent, and almost always most accurate, poll from California, and it shows McCain narrowly ahead of Romney, 22%--18%. Florida and California are both must wins for Romney, especially now that it seems he did not perform very well in the Louisiana caucuses, where uncommitted won and Ron Paul finished second. While McCain didn't do well, it does seem he did better than Romney, which means that Romney might not the stranglehold on caucuses and conventions I thought he did. As TPM notes, the Republican base might not actually hate McCain, even if elite conservative movement-arians do. As such, he remains the Republican frontrunner, even if Romney leads in Florida, delegates, and money.
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Ron Paul (0.00 / 0)
What I find astounding is how Ron Paul is really picking up a lot of votes, way more than Giuliani, yet Giuliani gets MSM press coverage and Ron Paul is shut out.  It really amplifies a massive bias here.

The Huckster is going down, I didn't expect that frankly but he really screwed the pooch announcing he wanted to change the constitution to his religious views.  My, my.

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California (0.00 / 0)
The California Field Poll also included a post-Thompson component which showed McCain leading Romney by only 2 (23-21). 

ZOGBY (0.00 / 0)
Obama win's SC by a huge number and the headlines will be about that win and momentum.

Zogby poll today:
Obama 43
Clinton 24
Edwards 15

Polling on Jan. 22nd
Obama 39
Clinton 22
Edwards 18

Zogby say;s their is movement towards Edwards.

If Edwards finishes 2nd and Clinton 3rd. that will be damaging to Clinton.

I think Clinton has made a tactical error in her attacks on Obama whic may result in her finishing 3rd.

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Does anyone hate McCain? (0.00 / 0)
A Clinton vs. McCain match-up will provide an opportunity for the currently demoralized GOP.

WTA Republican Primary (0.00 / 0)
California is WTA by Congressional District in the Republican Primary. I'm not sure how well the statewide popular vote is going to reflect the delegate count.

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CA Republican primary (0.00 / 0)
I have to agree.  More than 90% of the Republican delegates will be chosen WTA at the district level.  I do not know how the districts might break, but within California, there are clearly two factions in the Republican party.  I'd be curious to know if one holds a big advantage, or if the delegate results may end up pretty close. 

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Districts... (0.00 / 0)
This is the great part... Each district gets three delegates. Doesn't matter if it's Berkley or Orange County. The most Republican areas of the state are going to be severely underrepresented in the delegate count. That may or may not be good news for John McCain.

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Obama victory in SC (0.00 / 0)
"One wonders what size of victory, if any, can allow him to close the gap in California (where he trails by 12%) and nationally (where he trails by about 8%). I suppose that depends on how much he wins by"

I don't think it matters. Everyone will discount the victory because it will come from an outsized black vote.


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