First Super Tuesday Results Thread

by: Chris Bowers

Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 13:00


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Update 12: New Super Tuesday results thread here.

Update 11: Draw looking likely: This is starting to look like the draw scenario an awful lot. I expect a very close delegate count tonight, probably with a slight Obama lead when all is said and done on Friday.

Update 10: Obama wins North Dakota: Didn't see that one coming. So much for my perfect record. I should have listened to Geekesque.

Update 9: Alabama for Obama: Not really a surprise, but the polls were pretty close. Missouri will probably go for Clinton soon, and then Kansas for Obama at 10 p.m. (Idaho won't be called until midnight). Delegates are coming in slowly, so I guess these wins are something to talk about for now...

Update 8: New Jersey for Clinton: Clinton wins New Jersey, as was more or less expected. Of course, as one commenter noted, this talk of "wins" is silly. This isn't the Electoral College. We need to know the delegates.

Update 7 Delaware for Obama: I'm batting 1.000% on my predictions so far, for what it is worth. Alabama and Connecticut should be next for Obama.

Update 6: Massachusetts, New York for Clinton: That is a big win for Clinton in Massachusetts, but let's see how the delegates break out. Pre-election polls still holding up; exit polls, not so much.

Update 5: Looks better for Clinton than exit polls suggested: Honestly, the returns are coming in now and so far they look just like the pre-election polls that forecasted a draw, and not at all like the exit polls that forecasted an Obama blowout. Early, unweighted exit polls really suck.

Update 4: Clinton wins Arkansas and Tennessee: No shock there. Can I also say how hard it is to update ten states at once by hand?

Update 3: First Exit Poll Estimates: These are bound to change, but the exit polls for the 8 p.m. states are AL: O 54-41 C; CT: O 53--46 C; DE: O 49-44 C; IL: O 68-30; MA: O 49-48 C; MO: C 47-45 O; NJ: C 49-49 O; OK: C 58--33 O; TN: C 51-40 0. Those numbers could change, but if they hold it looks like a pretty good night for Obama..

Update 2: Obama wins Illinois, Clinton wins Oklahoma: No other states have been called yet on the Democratic side. I'm going to start sifting through the exit polls...

Update 1: Obama wins Georgia To no one's surprise, Obama is projected to win Georgia's popular vote. Notably, the exit poll now projects the win to be by about 66-32, quite a bit less than the 75-26 the exit poll rumors had suggested. Now, we need to see how the delegates split, as we will in all states.

Super Tuesday Results, Democrats
State Reporting C % O % Delegates Clinton Obama
Delegates -- -- -- 1,681 112 57
Alabama* 66% 41% 56% 52 0 10
Alaska 12:30 a.m. -- -- 13 -- --
Arizona 10 p.m. -- -- 56 -- --
Arkansas 22% 72% 23% 35 7 0
California 11 p.m. -- -- 370 -- --
Colorado 3% 35% 64% 55 0 0
Connecticut 69% 47% 50% 48 0 0
Delaware 100% 42% 53% 15 0 3
Georgia 76% 34% 63% 87 8 16
Idaho 22% 24% 75% 18 0 0
Illinois 51% 32% 66% 153 0 27
Kansas 64% 27% 72% 32 0 0
Massachusetts 63% 56% 41% 93 17 0
Minnesota 21% 34% 65% 72 0 0
Missouri 49% 55% 41% 72 0 0
New Jersey 61% 53% 44% 107 19 0
New Mexico 0% 0% 0% 26 0 0
New York 73% 58% 39% 232 41 11
North Dakota 96%. 37 61% 13 0 0
Oklahoma 86% 55% 31% 38 7 0
Tennessee 66% 58% 35% 68 13 0
Utah 0% 0% 0% 23 0 0

* = About one-third of Alabama Democrats, most of whom are African-American, will vote on Saturday, February 9th

Percentages in bold means a candidate has "won" the state in question.

Chris Bowers :: First Super Tuesday Results Thread

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Hmm (0.00 / 0)
Something tells me you can probably call Illinois for Obama and New York for Hillary.  If you are wrong on either state, then one of the candidates is SCREWED!

Woo Hoo (0.00 / 0)
Obama wins Georgia!

What's going on Saturday in Alabama? (nt) (4.00 / 2)


Seconded (4.00 / 1)
Yeah, can you explain?  I thought the only thing in Alabama that was different was the coast, particularly Mobile, voted last Saturday because today was Mardi Gras.

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This is very exciting. It's been a long time coming. n/t (0.00 / 0)


"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

Do you see the Obama numbers projected on (0.00 / 0)
drudge???

OMG


It's Drudge (0.00 / 0)
   Even lower on the evolutionary scale than Zogby.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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Not True! (4.00 / 1)
It's not on the evolutionary scale at all.

It's on the de-volutionary scale.

In fact, it broke the scale some time ago.

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3


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MSNBC (Chuck Todd) says (0.00 / 0)
Obama may get 65% of the vote and a net gain of 35 delegates over Clinton out of GA.

Chuck Tood is saying (0.00 / 0)
Obama is going to get 60 of 87 delegates in GA - and the Obama team is updating their overall delegate expectations to over 850

MSNBC (0.00 / 0)
obviously other people are watching MSNBC too...

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haha (0.00 / 0)
looks like it, well it is the best station

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delegates from GA (0.00 / 0)
Chuck Todd on MSNBC is calculating that Obama may have won as many as 60 of the 87 delegates, based on his huge showing in heavily African-American districts.

I've seen several comments lately that these strong African-American districts might be a kind of hidden advantage for Obama, it seems this might be coming true...


And the Obama-rama begins :-) (0.00 / 0)
Obama takes Georgia

40-59-year-olds -- 49% of the vote

43% of the White vote

86% of the Black vote

Obama 08, VICTORY IS OURS!!!  


Alabama (0.00 / 0)
Anyone care to explain Alabama to me?  

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

Now... (4.00 / 1)
...Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they get me off so much
They pick me up when I'm feeling blue
Now how about you?

Seriously I can't find what the dillio is with Alabama and I've been reading Left in Alabama for 15 minutes. It seems like they had lots of early voting because of Mardi Gras in Mobile but I don't see where they are going to extend voting beyond tonight.

http://www.leftinalabama.com/f...

John McCain


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Maybe It Takes That Long For Them To Recover? (0.00 / 0)
Or maybe, just to care?

"You know what they say -- those of us who fail history... doomed to repeat it in summer school." -- Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Season 6, Episode 3

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Woot (0.00 / 0)
Glad to see my state turned out for Obama (not that there was any doubt).

Random observation (4.00 / 1)
  I never watch cable news. Don't have the patience for the mind-numbingness of it all.

 But I'm at a friend's house tonight and we're watching the returns (MSNBC), and I'm astonished at how utterly vapid most of the non-Olbermann commentary is. I mean, it's AWFUL. All about the horse race, almost nothing about issues.

 Oh, Lord... "tonight is going to be a repudiation of Bill Clinton", solemnly declares some dumb pundit. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but that's garbage.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


It is all about the horse race on cable news (0.00 / 0)
But Olbermann is a great election night anchor, and Matthews manages to say some pretty smart things on occasion. It's just all those cringe-worthy things he's usually busy saying that make it hard to watch.  

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

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8pm results (4.00 / 1)
Obama wins IL.
Clinton wins OK.

All others too close to call.


here's my worry (0.00 / 0)
obama's lead in Georgia is down to 9%.

4% reporting (0.00 / 0)
Obama will climb back up. Give it time.

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yes (0.00 / 0)
back up to 16%. I'll chillax.

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still performing 10 points weaker than exits (4.00 / 1)
Do you really want to apply that in these other states. Exit polls look great for Obama but the actual counts, though early, are worrisome.

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it's mixed so far (0.00 / 0)
It's getting more muddled, I'll admit. We'll see...

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I agree (0.00 / 0)
Obama is underpeforming the exit polls.

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Connecticut (0.00 / 0)
Conn is the only state whose actual count matches the exits. In every other one, Obama is performing lower. I don't know.

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Maybe not- Alabama is he is way out performing... (0.00 / 0)


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Closer than the exits so far (0.00 / 0)
The actual count so far in Georgia isn't bad news at all for CLinton. It's early, but right now she is doing about 10 pnts better than the polling average going into this, and Obama is right where he was polled at. If this continues it could be hopes dashed for Obama.

GEORGIA (0.00 / 0)
If Obama wins Georgia by anything close to 66-32, he will run the table today. Those numbers are well above any poll taken in Georgia to date. However, I am concerned by the California exit poll numbers. He'll get killed by double digits if those numbers hold.  

Why The HELL? (4.00 / 1)
Is CNN reporting the Super-Delegates with the state delegate counts?  They can't do that, that is not representative of where the race is.  I'm emailing them, you all should.

McCain takes CT (0.00 / 0)
On the strength of self-described moderates. Hell, Romney governed the neighboring state, so he had history and profile in the area. Are these Lieberman's Joebots or what? What's the matter with CT?

That's CT for ya (0.00 / 0)
There is hardly any social/evangelical theocon base in this state. I think CT Repugs were just wary of Romney, and would never go for a Huckabee type. With Rudy done, and Rudy, Lieberman and Gov. Rell all lining up for McCain, CT republicans had nobody else to turn to...  

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that."
-Lawrence Summers


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BBC has good election coverage (0.00 / 0)
They have a ticker with little blurbs from all over and plenty o' funky maps. Here's one bit of spin that I found interesting.

00:33 GMT : New York : Doug Hattaway of the Clinton campaign is downplaying expectations and tells the BBC's Laura Trevelyan it would be a shocker if the former first lady lost here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ame...

Erm...I think it would be big news if Obama wins NYC.

John McCain


Obama so far outperforming expectations (0.00 / 0)
It's about as early as it can get but Obama's definitely doing well. He's up in Connecticut, he's getting beat but not burtalized in Tenn, he's getting beat with a stick in Oklahoma but not as badly as the polls showed and his Georgian lead is growing.

Obama just needs to survive the night (0.00 / 0)
  The rest of the month will be played in more favorable territory for him.

 He needs to learn to tamp down expectations, though. That early Georgia rush got some people carried away.  

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


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Thx Matt (0.00 / 0)
for the quick hit link to Brave New Films. Reports there of fubar in New Mexico among Dems.

Exit poll extrapolations (0.00 / 0)
Pollster.com has a bunch of exit poll extrapolations here: http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...

Looks like Alabama should go to Obama, but the whole Northeast looks far too close to call. That seems like good news for Obama, if he can do well in the West and the caucus states.


Bama (0.00 / 0)
I'm shocked they haven't called alabama yet.  Exit polls must be showing something but Obama is up HUGE so far.

Clinton wins MA (0.00 / 0)
Not a big surprise there, either. I wonder if Obama will keep it close.

CBS calls MA for Clinton (0.00 / 0)


Massachusetts for Clinton (0.00 / 0)
  MSNBC just called it.

 Blowout so far -- Hillary up 57-39. Don't know how many precincts.    

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn


MA (0.00 / 0)
Boston, Cambridge, Somerville haven't reported yet. Obama will tighten this considerable. Clinton appears to be doing quite well in the west and southeast of the state: she's winning Worcester, Plymouth, Fall River.

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Obama wins DE (0.00 / 0)
A little surprise, but not outside the realm of expectations.  

ABC just called DE for Obama (0.00 / 0)


New Jersey politics at Blue Jersey.

the tv coverage is terrible tonight (0.00 / 0)
they are reporting on "state" victories without the percentages. which is pretty misleading in terms of what matters which is delegate count

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

There is a lot of talk on MSNBC (0.00 / 0)
about delegates.  

"Don't hate the media, become the media" -Jello Biafra

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Hillary's up 93-43 in delegates so far (nm) (0.00 / 0)
   

"We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

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I saw that (0.00 / 0)
I want to know where they are getting their numbers.  Unless its SDs.

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free tv at least (0.00 / 0)
:)

Michael Bloomberg, prince of corporate welfare

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So what happened in mass (0.00 / 0)
Most(all?) major political figures endorsed obama, exit polls looked favorable to obama, obama doing well in neighboring state

He ws down 35 points two weeks ago (4.00 / 1)
That is a lot of ground to make up.

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And... (0.00 / 0)
he was down in most polling.  Lets see how close it gets.

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Obama doing well (0.00 / 0)
I felt that Chris's last predictions were way too optimistic for Obama, but so far it seems to be dead on, and that is good news so far for this Obama supporter.

Clinton wins NJ (0.00 / 0)
Of course, this "wins" talk is just silly. Who gets the delegates?

Wow (0.00 / 0)
Anyone getting sick of the McCain commercials on MSNBC?

Yep (0.00 / 0)
McCain showed characteristic stupid belligerency by campaigning in Mass for the last few days...in your face Romney!
Zarathustra help us if he gets the presidency...

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fire worship? (0.00 / 0)
Are we dreading a nuclear meltdown.

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I'm kidding... (0.00 / 0)
Apologies to the Zorastarians out there for being glib with your sky god...

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Also no surprises (0.00 / 0)
I'm also batting 1.000 but two points of note:

1) On the GOP side, the close ones are McCain and Huck. Mittsie's gonna be the big loser of the night.

2) In tossup states, Obama's doing fine so far except in the very key MO. If Hillary's lead holds there, the Dem winner of the night is going to boil down to CA, which my poll-reading says Clinton has a small edge. So if an upset comes, it's gotta be Obama there.


I doubt it (0.00 / 0)
I think MO and CA go to Hillary and that's exactly what the polls said. My real question was does Obama pull off Conn? Does he actually carry all these caucuses? I think it is good, but I think Obama has clearly lost the expectations game.

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Colorado is what I am looking at too... (0.00 / 0)


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UM... (0.00 / 0)
No Obama has WON the expectations game.  Clearly has won the expectations game and is winning the media spin.

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I hope so (0.00 / 0)
Maybe it was just the exit polls that reset expectations. In fact the electronic markets have swung strongly back to Hillary after moving Obama's direction for some time.  

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Sigh (0.00 / 0)
The markets are essentially gambling.  In a close race they really aren't too helpful as a predictor.  Obama will probably win more states, Hillary slightly more delegates.  Obama is getting the spin that he is doing well among WHITE voters which erases the Black candidate meme.  Obama even looks to have improve slightly among latinos, BUT he needs to make some inroads.

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Tough to argue... (0.00 / 0)
...that this is the night that Obama wanted/expected thus far. Two weeks ago the story was the gap. Last week/this week, it was that momentum was going to bring surprises. Hard to say that tonight isn't a bit of a disappointment thus far.

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Disagree! (0.00 / 0)
Obama won CT which was her firewall state.  He also won Deleware which was also one that CW would say was going to her.  He has done well in the South and the West, and the states he lost in NE he finished closer than expected... No one expected him to win MA given that many polls showed her up by a ton.  

He will spin the state wins, and the closer the delegate count is the better for him.  Momentum hasn't stuck for anyone yet and Obama goes on a favorable run this month AND can out spend her.  If I am Obama, I fundraise like mad and start running ads in Texas, Ohio and PA NOW.


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Wait for St. Louis (0.00 / 0)
MO will finish closer than it looks now. Only 2% of the St. Louis returns are in.

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MO is very frustrating to follow (0.00 / 0)
St. Louis City is always the last county to report.  It's enraging to watch the democratic margin juuuuust barely try to catch up to the republican margin from the rest of the state.

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And at least it looks like my sabotage vote wasn't wasted (0.00 / 0)


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And (0.00 / 0)
Donna Brazile doesn't know that St. Louis County and St. Louis City are two different counties.

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St. Louis County also reports late (0.00 / 0)
Only 15% is in so far and Obama is leading 56-39 on the results in.

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Boxer on super delegates (0.00 / 0)
Listening to the Brave New Films stream and they have Boxer on and she has pledged to vote as a superdelegate for the person who wins the California popular vote.

Not sure if that's news to anyone, but I think it's a good start towards keeping the superdelegates from fucking up the nomination process.


that is a start (0.00 / 0)
at least she is respecting the people of her district.  

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New Jersey results (0.00 / 0)
This is going to tighten up A LOT.  With 45%, the margin has narrowed by two from 15 to 13, and there is lots of fertile ground for Obama here.  Bergen (New Jersey's most populous county) is yet to report, and some high profile legislators (Steve Rothman, Loretta Weinberg) there have been behind Obama.  Middlesex and Mercer (lots of college students at Rutgers/Princeton/TCNJ/Rider, etc., plus lots of high information/high tech/creative class types) are populous and yet to report. Union is both ethnically diverse and high income, and is yet to report. So there's a lot of reason for optimism for my fellow Jerseyan Obama supporters.

With 58% (0.00 / 0)
Down to a 54-44 lead for HRC.

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If She wins NJ (0.00 / 0)
by only 3 or 4 %...that is a BIG loss for her.

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Well (0.00 / 0)
There's one wrong for you Chris.. Obama takes ND.  Good news in the State Count...

George Stephanopolous is actually pointing out (0.00 / 0)
the delegate count, and contrasting the republican system with the dem system.  

Tim Russert is a big dickhead (0.00 / 0)
He seems so dejected every time he announces any good news for Hillary. Says shit like, "She must be breathing a sigh of relief" while speaking in glowing terms about anything Obama. Media bias is so blatant and obvious. It disgusts me.

Still perfect in my projections (0.00 / 0)
At least on calling wins and losses...I've been off on the percentages, but that's all.

It's bizarre listening to Huckabee talk like he still can win (0.00 / 0)


Well (0.00 / 0)
He's in the catbird.  He knows he probably won't but if the conservatives throw everything behind him, who knows.  He also has CLEARLY been in collusion with McCain and should get a VP nod or a cabinet position "promise"

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Google politics plug-in for maps (0.00 / 0)
Google has a map plug-in with all a running tally of all the returns in a convenient little table. Check it out...

http://maps.google.com/maps/mp...

John McCain


I'm calling CT for Obama (0.00 / 0)
The voting is playing out just the same way that the CT-Sen primary did in 2006...the percentage basically holds steady once the 50% threshold is passed. Obama will win the state by a 2-4% margin.

MSNBC calls Conn for Obama (0.00 / 0)
Good win although having to watch T McCauliff spew his crap was not worth hearing about this win

If it's a delegate tie, Obama wins (0.00 / 0)
If Clinton doesn't stop Obama's momentum tonight, I seriously doubt she's going to.

Chris Matthews (0.00 / 0)
has a lotta love for Terry McAuliffe at least. Clinton needed a genial, handsome, aqua-velva man to placate the closeted cons.

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