GOP Won't Play in Youtube/CNN Debate?

by: Matt Stoller

Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 21:32


Jose Antonio Vargas of the Washington Post reports:

Four days after the Democratic debate in Charleston, S.C,. more than 400 questions directed to the GOP presidential field have been uploaded on YouTube -- targeted at Republicans scheduled to get their turn at videopopulism on Sept. 17.

But so far, only Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) and Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.) have agreed to participate in the debate, co-hosted by Republican Party of Florida in St. Petersburg.

"Aside from those two candidates, we haven't heard from anyone else," said Sam Feist of CNN, who's co-sponsoring the debate with the popular videosharing site.

Rudolph Giuliani and Mitt Romney, both with dozens of videos on their YouTube channels, have not signed up. Neither have the rest of the Republican candidates, including Rep. Tom Tancredo (Colo.), whose "Tancredo Takes" on his YouTube channel draw hundreds of views. Sources familiar with the Guiliani campaign said he's unlikely to participate. Kevin Madden, Romney's spokesman, said the former Massachusetts governor has seven debate invitations covering a span of 11 days in September.

"We haven't committed to any of them yet," Madden said.

In an interview Wednesday with the Manchester (N.H.) Union Leader, Romney said he's not a fan of the CNN/YouTube format. Referring to the video of a snowman asking the Democratic candidates about global warming, Romney quipped, "I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman."

The reason for this is relatively simple.  The Republican base is relatively old and living off of the military industrial economy.  Stats on Iraq and the economy tell the story.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation with Iraq?"
Republicans (approve/disapprove/unsure): 57-38-5
Democrats (approve/disapprove/unsure): 5-93-2  Independents (approve/disapprove/unsure): 24-70-6

And this.

Among Republicans, 61% approve of the way Bush is handling the economy and 32% disapprove. Among Democrats, 93% disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy and 3% approve. Among independents, 11% approve and 86% disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy.

The Republicans are in a different economy.  It's the protected exurban, agribusiness, resource extractive, medical, construction, and militarized sector that concentrates the Republican voting base.  Resource prices are high, medical inflation is high, and military spending is high, so that's good for these people.  They like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, because they sell the bullets and logistical software.  Typically, these people are older and established, and they watch cable TV, religious programming, and use direct mail.

Democrats and Independents are everything else.  They see the war as a disaster, health care costs as high, and gas prices as ridiculous.  Young people, single women, and economically vulnerable and/or unstable are forming the voting base of the Democratic Party.  And these are the people that use the internet.

That's why the GOP isn't eager to do the Youtube debate.  Because they will get crushed.

Matt Stoller :: GOP Won't Play in Youtube/CNN Debate?

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That's Way Too Complicated (4.00 / 1)
I think the reason Romney and Giuliani are getting cold feet about playing with YouTube is much simpler. They just don't get the net. If I were Fred Thompson, I'd be laughing at the opportunity they're handing me. (And I'm sure Mike Turk, Thompson's internet guru, is telling him that right now.) Patrick Ruffini bemoans this turn of events here: http://www.techpresi...

Also, while there's definitely a skew toward the Ds in terms of activism online, Pew's surveys generally show that internet users in general are disproportionately Republican (it's the class skew), and in terms of online political activism, the Democratic advantage is at best 60-40. Hardly enough of a reason for the Rs to be afraid to do YouTube.


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Also, while there's definitely a skew toward the Ds in terms of activism online, Pew's surveys generally show that internet users in general are disproportionately Republican (it's the class skew), and in terms of online political activism, the Democratic advantage is at best 60-40. Hardly enough of a reason for the Rs to be afraid to do YouTube.

Hmm.  Do you have data on this?


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Micah,

I'm really skeptical that your numbers are accurate, though this was true in the 1990s: http://www.mydd.com/...

Young people who are very progressive are online.  Additionally, African-Americans, the most reliable Democratic constituency group, have adopted broadband in huge numbers over the last two years, from 14 in 2005 to 40 percent in 2007.


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Here are Pew's numbers (0.00 / 0)
According to Pew's big report, "Election 2006 Online," January 17, 2007 [http://www.pewintern...], on Internet use during the 2006 election cycle, "Republican and Democratic voters were equally likely to say that the internet was their main source of election news (17% among each group)....Among those who relied on the internet for election news, 43% voted Democratic and 35% voted Republican." (Which is about the same spread as the general vote.) There's also this: "Among all internet users, 44% voted for Democratic congressional candidates and 36% voted for Republicans; non-internet users, who tend to be older and poorer, were considerably more likely than the internet users to vote Democratic."

That said, among the smaller, more intensely networked group of people who not only use the web to get political information, but also create information by blogging or podcasting or videoblogging and/or commenting and/or forwarding that content to others, the ~14 million people Pew defines as "online political activists," there's a definite D tilt: "52% of those activists voted for the Democratic candidates, while 35% voted for Republicans." Pew adds: "This might stem from the more liberal intensity of political content creators and sharers, though liberals are not the dominant ideological group among political content creators."

Yes, Democratic voters are more likely to rely on newspapers and Republicans more like to favor Fox cable and talk radio.

I'm pretty sure there's additional current data out there showing that the population of internet users contains disproportionately more Republicans than the general population (my memory is this is what the IPDI online influentials report from 2004? 2005? shows, but I'll have to hunt it down).


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The more things change... (0.00 / 0)
[MTV] has extended an open invitation to President Bush to be a guest at a special election forum, an echo of the 90-minute question-and-answer session to which Bill Clinton submitted himself last spring. Despite the boost in popularity Clinton's candidacy received after his appearance on that forum, President Bush declared in July that he would not be going on "the teeny-bopper network."

Freston still fumes about the put-down, though he is quick to add that MTV's offer to President Bush and Vice President Quayle expires only on Nov. 3. "In 1988, those teeny-boppers voted, 50 to 41 percent, for George Bush," says Freston. "I hope eventually the G.O.P. will question the wisdom of writing them off."

-Judith Miller, New York Times, October 11, 1992.

Bush ended up going on w/ MTV just days before Election Day (it was an interview with Tabitha Soren on the caboose of a campaign train, IIRC.... can't find it on YouTube).


Sounds good as it is. (0.00 / 0)
But so far, only Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) and Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.) have agreed to participate in the debate, co-hosted by Republican Party of Florida in St. Petersburg.

That actually sounds pretty entertaining.


this is a dream format for Ron Paul (4.00 / 2)
He's got nothing but upside.

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Giuliani does realize the snowman wasn't actually talking right? (4.00 / 1)
Sounds to me like they're just afraid.  I don't understand it though since they can monitor the top rated vids and get a flavor for what answers to prepare, this debate format is practically like a open book test!

umm... (0.00 / 0)
who's going to "crush" them?

It's not like Clinton and Edwards are going to submit questions (or should they?)...


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