Unstacking the Deck

by: Daniel De Groot

Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:42


First, let me thank Chris for opening the floor and allowing me to write here.  Openleft continually impresses me for its ability to take the initiative on progressive causes, and in actually getting things done.  After following Chris and Matt here from MyDD, it quickly reached my "daily must read" list so I'm honoured to be able to contribute.

Ok, so what deck must we "unstack"?  In my view, the deck is the various institutions of the US government and the organs governing society itself.  This will be the first of a few diaries on a medium and long term vision for progressive reform of government.

Looking at the sweep of US history, what strikes me is how overwhelming the progressive mandate needs to be in order to get anything substantial done.  The New Deal required historic majorities in congress and even an attempt to stack the Supreme Court by FDR to survive the entrenched resistance inherent in the US system.  Truman couldn't achieve UHC in an era where other industrialized nations were doing so, and it basically took JFK's assassination to ram civil rights legislation through the Senate over the persistent filibuster of the racist Dixiecrats.  In between all these flashes of progressive revolution, we have long periods of rightward drift.  So if we are sitting at the cusp of a new progressive governing era (as we hope and see some evidence for) let's put some thought into leaving those that follow in better stead to effect progressive change in their time.  It just shouldn't be this hard to govern progressively.

So let's dream big for a minute, and think about what needs to happen to realign the steering of the automobile public to correct that rightward bias.

Daniel De Groot :: Unstacking the Deck
An Abrided Case for Institutional Bias

It's no secret that the US founders had their share of aristocratic leanings.  While they were far more populist than the norm for their era, they were not exactly unbridled adherents to the unadulterated will of the People.  So the system they created has built in a number of elitist protections against popular will.  At a glance, this may not seem to be such a problem as it plausible to think that the public might sway to and fro in popular sentiment equally and that a series of surmountable checks on their immediate will would tend over time only to prevent rapid and impertinent change.

However, this view is simply incorrect.  It's the kind of illusatory equivalence that Anatole France remarked on when he said

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

It's the same kind of "equality" that looks at a voting literacy test and judges it to be racially fair while ignoring the reality of which races tend to be illiterate.  Basically it is theoretical symmetry that does not bear out in reality.  

From a simple economic perspective, by definition there are always fewer rich people than non-rich people and they will tend to have different interests which don't vary much over time at core (though the specific issues change).  Perhaps this sentiment is a tad Marxist, but there really isn't much in the historical record that suggests it to be false.  

Nor is the design intentions of the founders the sole cause for this.  Since they were largely experimenting in the system they designed, not all the mechanics and side-effects were correctly predicted.  Some of their assumptions about human nature suffer from a bias toward ascribing too much faith in the ability of rationality to win out and their distaste for "factionalism" (ie Parties) was evident, yet clearly they failed to prevent the complete takeover of factionalism in their system.  

So it tends to be the case over time that stifling the majority will will statistically favour elite interests since they are less often able to sway the majority behind their causes.  This is the deck being stacked against progressive governance in America.  You can have a good night at Blackjack, but over time, the House always wins.  The institutions that govern US society are rigged to prefer conservative outcomes.

What Needs Fixing

I see the following broad areas for reform:

  • The Presidency.  Pardons, vetoes, recess appointments and the bully pulpit.  The Presidency has grown much too powerful compared to both Congress and the Courts and even some of the original powers are dubious, nevermind the ones Cheney and Addington have stapled on.
  • The Senate.  Aristocratic, undemocratic, and a continuing obstacle toward serious change for the better.  
  • The Electoral College.  This one is well known and progressives already support reform of this, but it belongs on this list and I'll mention it for completeness.  Whenever the EC has mattered, it hasn't been the more progressive candidate that won the Presidency.  That's not a fluke.
  • The Media.  Still broken and any marginal improvements made since 2000 are too prone to being wiped out by the next crisis.  Basically, blogs are thus far unable to address the causes of the rot, they are only able to ameliorate the worst symptoms.  I know the media is not usually in anyone's textbook of the "branches of government" but it's time to change that understanding as those charged with informing the electorate are serving a vital societal function worthy of serious systemic consideration by government and not simply abandoned to market forces (which favour conservative outcomes).
  • The House.  Lower on my list because it is not as bad as the rest, but it could still use improvement.  Too few members, elected on pluralities and granted too little esteem vis-à-vis the more aristocratic organs of government.  

Obviously this is a tall order especially if we are talking about constitutional reform.  However I'd say a constitutional amendment outlawing alcohol is a crazy idea, and yet that was once able to garner the supermajorities needed to be so enshrined, so anything is possible.  Further, as those familiar with the Electoral College reform movement know, it isn't always necessary to amend the constitution to improve the situation.

You might also note I didn't include the Courts here. That's mostly because my idea for improving them is to stop having Republican Presidents pick all the judges.  Frankly, I'm surprised at how good the US courts still are after so many right wing ideologues have been crammed onto the benches.  The Supreme Court has 7 Republican appointees and still manages to make defensible rulings from time to time.  Of all the institutions of the US government, the courts have withstood the onslaught of conservativism best.  So my belief is that by correcting the others, the courts will be fixed in the process without any specific institutional reform.  "More and better progressive judges" about sums it up.  If anything, the institution of Courts actually favours progressive outcomes, which is probably why the broad sweep of right wing judicial reforms is basically to gut the power and influence of the Courts, delegitimize their rulings and pack them with justices who defer to bad law and bad executive actions.  

A Note on Means of Reform

I want to stress that constitutional and legal changes are likely not our best initial weapons in this fight.  I think these fights have to be fought and won on a normative and cultural level first.  The electoral bars to changing the constitution are very high, and it isn't going to happen without a shift in American culture that makes the status quo simply unacceptable.  

Being a Canadian peeking in my neighbour's window, one aspect of US political culture that I find remarkable is the degree to which everyone is focused on the substantive rules as written.  We've seen this recently in Chris' posts about the Superdelegates, where a great deal of attention was (mis)directed toward what the DNC rules say, and the persistent accusation that Chris was trying to "change the rules" by attempting to set an expectation that Superdelegates not overturn the clear will of the primary electoral majority.  

You see this often in the form of arguments from conservatives about how, for example, President Bush was within his legal rights to fire the prosecutors;  an attempt to disguise immoral actions by pointing out their nominal legality.   Laws are generally an attempt to codify well established norms, and as such we should often refer to the norms and ethics that underpin the laws to decide the legitimacy of actions rather than the laws themselves.  Fuck the hemlock, Socrates we are not.

All of this is to say Americans often undervalue the importance of norms and traditions in good governance.  For example, the Canadian constitution doesn't even mention the position of Prime Minister.  Britain has no formal constitution per se.  It's largely ruled by unwritten parliamentary traditions.  I'm not saying this approach is better or worse here, but just to say it is possible to have a stable system that isn't actually explicitly written down.  In the US such examples are a little harder to find, but they exist.  FDR failed to get Congress and the public to accept his attempt to increase the number of Supreme Court justices, despite there being no mention of their number in the Constitution.  It's governed purely by norms; norms powerful enough to block a President sitting on a historic landslide mandate.  Meanwhile the explicitly written provision of habeas corpus wasn't enough to prevent an unpopular president from convincing congress to suspend the right, because the norms behind it have been eroded.  I guess I'm saying written constitutions are only as strong as the popular political forces willing to defend them.

Why I mention all this is to say that norms are perhaps easier to change than the US constitution.  In fact, this might be the best way to change it.    

Next entry, building a more progressive Presidency.


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Good start (4.00 / 1)
A good start, but I'll wait until you get to implementation to make any extended comments.

Since you are a Canadian, you might want to consider how hard it has been to get any real change in Canada, which is claimed to be more "progressive". The Canadian economy has been based upon exploitation of natural resources since the days of the fur trappers. Change is hard.

First, there is the determination of what the problem is. Notice that even on a reasonably clear cut issue like climate change this consensus is a long time in coming.

Second, there needs to be a set of goals. You have some above.

Third, there needs to be an implementation plan. I assume this will follow.

But, the biggest impediment to change is overcoming institutional resistance. Remember those who profit from the current system are those with the power and money. Getting past them is an unusual occurrence. Even when a person intent on change (like Chavez) gets into power, it is not clear that they will be able to overcome existing power bases.

It is also unclear that the American public wants "progressive" change. There is no strong push to end the war, or cut back on militarism. There is a momentary blip over congressional malfeasance and a desire to have a better health system, but that's about it.

Policies not Politics


Good comment. (4.00 / 1)
Yeah, my nation's reliance on resources bugs me too.


But, the biggest impediment to change is overcoming institutional resistance. Remember those who profit from the current system are those with the power and money. Getting past them is an unusual occurrence. Even when a person intent on change (like Chavez) gets into power, it is not clear that they will be able to overcome existing power bases.

Yes, precisely.  This is the problem I forsee with merely striving to win elections.  We're playing a rigged game so even when we win, we don't get the prizes our opposition does when they win by a similar margin.  The current senate has 51 (sort of) Democrats but won with 53% of the popular vote.  The 2004 Senate had 55 Red red red Republicans and "won" with 45% of the pop vote.  


It is also unclear that the American public wants "progressive" change. There is no strong push to end the war, or cut back on militarism. There is a momentary blip over congressional malfeasance and a desire to have a better health system, but that's about it.

Here I disagree profoundly.  I suggest you see Paul Rosenberg's diaries on the General Social Survey which make a very strong empirical case for just how much further left the US populace is than the government.


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Media is important (4.00 / 2)
Of the five areas of reform you mention, I would target media reform first. Even if we win the White House and have majorities in the Congress, average people will be told every day about how the government is the source of all problems.

I doubt we can get much real progressive reform without breaking up the media conglomerates, bringing back the Fairness Doctrine and forcing networks like Fox News to accurately label themselves as advocates of a particular party.


Thx (0.00 / 0)
I did a previous essay on the problems with the media you might like.  

About prioritization, I'm leery to say "we must do this first" because these things are all so linked.  Reforming the media will likely require some form of legislation, which we won't be able to pass if we're facing a conservative Senate and a veto-happy President.  

The upshot is, any progress we make on any of these fronts will aid progress on all the others.  


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The Last Half Is Very Much In Line With What Lakoff Is Saying (4.00 / 2)
Progressives do vastly undervalue norms, it's all of a piece with them undervaluing the role of values in politics.

It's not that progressives don't have values, it's that they simply fail to appreciate how important it is to articulate them, propagate them, engage people in discussing them.  Because you're absolutely right--major change can only come through a change in norms, a change in values.

Your list of proposed changes is a good one, and the only way we've got a chance in acheiving them is, as you suggest, by changing the norms first.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


Great stuff (4.00 / 3)
Anyone interested in this (and seriously, who wouldn't be!?) should check out this old post by Bowers on "Progressive Positive Feedback Loops": http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

The comments are really interested, and I tried to make a more comprehensive list using those suggestions as well in this diary: http://www.openleft.com/showDi...

Briefly, I want to disagree with one point you made. You say that we need to address these problems on a cultural level first. I'm not sure that that is true, and I'm also not sure it is possible without media reform.

True, the legal battles will be hard to win, but that is why it is important to prioritize certain legal changes that are within reach politically, and will have wide-ranging effects. To name three; media reform, immigration reform, and the Employee Free Choice Act. These three alone would help build a progressive Democratic majority, and ensure that we have the tools we need to start seriously attacking our out-of-whack cultural norms on a whole host of other issues. I'd love to hear what you think.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


Thanks (0.00 / 0)
Ok, well the way I see core level societal changes happening in a democracy absolutely requires a cultural shift in values or perceptions first.

This was material I was saving for a diary about the senate, but consider the constitutional amendment that required popular elections for Senators.  That amendment had to garner at least 2/3 support in a senate made up of appointed cronies.

It also had to get support from 3/4 of the State legislatures, who also would probably rather have kept the power to choose their state senators rather than let the people do it.  

How did that possibly happen?  That amendment clearly wasn't in the interests of those officials, but they were compelled to support it because norms had shifted to the point where an appointed legislative chamber as powerful as the US Senate was simply completely unacceptable to the US electorate.

So I don't see how we'll make the most important changes without the normative changes first.  

I like your list of important legislative changes, but again, you have to consider how will these things be enacted when the Senate can so easily stymie or at least water down these changes.  But I think we do have to consider subtle changes that lead to long term progressive reform.  This is what the Right has been doing for a long time.  Reagan didn't repeal the fairness doctrine because he gave a shit about market ideology per se, he did it because it would lead to a right wing biased media.  We have to become more aware that they only view policy as a means to empowering themselves and any good policy that comes out of that is merely incidental.  We shouldn't ape them, but we do have to engage on that front or we'll keep losing in the long haul.  


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Sure (4.00 / 1)
I don't think we really disagree. I guess the best rule is to always do what will work best. But a Democratic president might well be able to force through some real changes in '09. All I'm saying is that instead of talking about abolishing the  Senate, even if that might marginally warm people up to the idea, he should make the push for the things within reach. Especially with media reform, but also by expanding the union and non-white US populations, this will put us in a position to start pushing the conversation further.

I think the Republicans are a great example. On the one hand, they've shifted the discussion way to the right. On the other hand, Reagan didn't have to convince everyone in the country that the fairness doctrine was actually a bad idea before he did away with it, he just decided to.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.


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Yes! (4.00 / 1)
Thank you so much for doing this.

Changing the norms or the "system" as I call it is one of the most important steps progressives should do. And the most important one is the media.

Why? Because it effects everything else. You can't be elected without the media. You can't govern without the media. Also you can't run as progressive a campaign as you would like because of the media and you can't govern as progressively as you would like because of the media.

Second to that is the Senate though. If you look back though Paul's writing he had a excellent post on how just 14 percent of the population can block legislation using the filibuster.   It actually might have been David Sirota but I don't remember.

However the national popular vote is the closest to becoming a reality. Hey, you've got to start somewhere, right?

John McCain: Beacuse lobbyists should have more power


sidenote (4.00 / 1)
"it basically took JFK's assassination to ram civil rights legislation through the Senate over the persistent filibuster of the racist Dixiecrats."
Well, well, well . . . finally someone gets the history of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 right.  You do have to give LBJ credit for recognizing the opportunity and seizing it -- can you really imagine Jimmy Carter, Michael Dukakis or John Kerry having the coldeye and aggression needed to take advantage of the opportunity
Dallas gave him?  But nonetheless it took the awful tragic poetry of November 1963 to move this country.  Poetry counts.  

LBJ recognizing the opportunity? (0.00 / 0)
That's not the way I remember it.  

He had to be dragged kicking and screaming after the assassination.

Johnson was no progressive.


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You Remember Wrong (0.00 / 0)
LBJ was a dyed-in-the-wool New Deal true believer.  JFK was the lukewarm one.  LBJ was John Edwards on steroids.  JFK was Barack Obama on lemonade.

Where Johnsons was reluctant was the Voting Rights Act, coming so soon after the Civil Rights Act.  But as soon as the movement made national headlines in Selma, Johnson knew darned well to strike while the iron was hot.

See my diary from mid-January, Lyndon B. Johnson: We Shall Overcome.

"Senate passes expanded GI bill despite Bush, McCain opposition"


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Interesting Big Picture, I Wonder Where This Leads (4.00 / 1)
Interesting post, to say the least.  While I'd agree that the American system has an anti-popular bias, I think we should all keep in mind that it is this same bias that frustrated the hell out of the Republican revolution from 1994-2006.  Without the checks and balances that now stand in our way, this country would actually manage to be in much, much worse shape than it is today.

I would suggest that the overarching change we need is electoral system reform.  There are, simply put, a whole lot of ways to structure a democratic system, and ours isn't the greatest.  There is an an American tendency to assume that America = Democracy and that any variation on checks and balances, separation of powers, federalism, etc = less Democracy.  That's maybe the biggest thing standing between us and the normative changes you refer to: educating the public on electoral system rules and developing a sense of honest outrage over things like Single Member, Simple Plurality voting rules. (check out David Farrell's book "Electoral Systems" for a decent overview and discussion of the various types of Democracy)

It has been done before.  New Zealand had an electoral system that mimicked ours until 1993, when they adopted wholesale change that brought on something resembling the German system.  That said, New Zealand's reform was akin to shooting the moon in hearts while drunk and blindfolded.  It can happen, but whoa does it take a lot of luck and fortuitous circumstances.  That might be something for us to look at and think about, though.

A more piecemeal approach would be to amend the Electoral College.  The National Popular Vote campaign is an interesting one that might have legs.  I like that you had a hyperlink to their website, it might be worthwhile to discuss that in greater detail.  That wouldn't unstack the deck all that much, but it would be a start and would be one hell of an organizing victory as well.

One broader question: in the next five years, we're going to need to pass multiple pieces of massive legislation on climate change, get our troops out of Iraq in a way that doesn't lead to far more chaos in the region, pass something resembling universal health care, and turn the country around in from a deep recession.  Granted, all of those things would be easier with major institutional reform.  But that institutional reform would take a long time even under the best of circumstances.  

There's an old gambling story, I believe about Wild Bill Hickock, that he was seen playing cards in a game that was known to be fixed.  Someone asked him why he was playing in a cheaters' game and he replied "because it's the only game in town."  Is there time to unstack the deck while doing all else that needs to be done, or do we have to play with a stacked deck because realistically, that's the only game available to us?


thx (4.00 / 1)
I think we should all keep in mind that it is this same bias that frustrated the hell out of the Republican revolution from 1994-2006.

Yeah I thought about that, but I think in the long haul these things have hurt us more than helped us.  One of the downsides of checks and balances is the diffusion of responsibility.  If the Republicans had been able to jam through their real agenda, it's also possible they would have been turfed from office even sooner.  That Bill Clinton was there to stymie them was really a historical aberration (When was the last Democratic president to have a Republican congress?  I honestly don't know of one - Wilson maybe?).  It also means Bill clinton gets blamed for some of the things that did get passed like welfare reform.  

Further, under the reforms I'm proposing, it's doubtful their "revolution" would have amounted to much.  If you look at the election results for Senate for example, between 1994 and 2004 Republicans only won 3 elections on popular vote, and only attained a majority of the vote twice.  Twice Democrats won absolute majorities of the popular vote.  The whole reason Republicans held the senate was because of its institutional conservative bias.

In short, I think it is worth gambling that conservatives will get to control the government 10 out of every 40 years or so if it means progressives can govern unfettered for the other 30.  If the people really want regressive taxation and anti-choice and all the rest of their ridiculous agenda, let them win actual democratic governing majorities behind it and quit the electoral rigging and framing tricks.

One broader question: in the next five years, we're going to need to pass multiple pieces of massive legislation on climate change, get our troops out of Iraq in a way that doesn't lead to far more chaos in the region, pass something resembling universal health care, and turn the country around in from a deep recession.  Granted, all of those things would be easier with major institutional reform.  But that institutional reform would take a long time even under the best of circumstances.  

Yeah for sure these things will suck up most of the oxygen as far as the elected leaders are concerned in the medium term.  But when I talk about normative changes I'm not looking for specific action by elected officials (yet).  We need to grassroots up these values that question the underpinnings of the biased system and delegitimize things like presidential vetoes of popular will.  

I agree about the National Popular vote as being more important as an organizing victory than eliminating the EC itself.  It would also represent a strong normative shift to point to when talking about tougher nuts to crack like senate reform.  It would become a talking point to play down silly "states rights" talking points.  


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debt (0.00 / 0)
Boy, I wish I could see the possiblities here, I've been squinting for 40 years hoping to see them looming over the horizon.

But now I'm seeing something much bigger than the list of what we're going to have to do in the next 5 years.  

We're not going to be able to do anything that costs money (environmental redirection, universal health care, rebuilding a properly scaled military, fix infrastructure, create decent work) with this credit card bill hanging over us.  I see a hobbled economy for the next presidential term.  

Almost enough to make me hope that the old guard wins this election because they will be so massively discredited by 2012 that your list of tasks will be an order of magnitude easier.


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Me, too (0.00 / 0)

I think we should all keep in mind that it is this same bias that frustrated the hell out of the Republican revolution from 1994-2006.

If the Republicans had been able to jam through their real agenda, it's also possible they would have been turfed from office even sooner.


I've often thought that if the Republicans were ever to get most of what they want there would be a popular backlash. Republicans and their policies would be generally rejected after that. Making it difficult for the will of the voters to be rapidly implemented only drags the issues out, as there is never any real test of the policies. I think this actually makes things worse in the long run.

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quibbling about important things (0.00 / 0)
In short, I think it is worth gambling that conservatives will get to control the government 10 out of every 40 years or so if it means progressives can govern unfettered for the other 30.  If the people really want regressive taxation and anti-choice and all the rest of their ridiculous agenda, let them win actual democratic governing majorities behind it and quit the electoral rigging and framing tricks.

I really think it's important not to conflate the terms progressive with statist, and conservative with legally slow (liberal, legalistic...choose what you want).  The point about the Republican revolution is COMPLETELY valid - if you create an institutional framework that allows a ruling majority to create swift change, then you have to make a further argument about how to ensure that hte content of that change will actually be progressive. But just because the institutions are holding back change (in any direction), that doesn't mean that the change will be good.  It's a battle to be fought out in the realm of politics and due to all kinds of other reasons.  This question of institutions really is significantly one of slowness vs. speed, society vs. state, not progressivism vs. conservatism (in an american sense...it's definitely conservatism in the momre traditional sense of the term).


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hmm (0.00 / 0)
Well in my theory, the barriers to change will favour minority interests and the minority interests will tend to be the wealthy elite who tend to be conservative.

I tried (briefly) to establish that in the diary because I was leery of being over long.  But basically I do not see barriers to the majority enacting change as being neutral with respect to ideology.  Rigid stability favours those who are already powerful and rich, because they tended to become so under the current system in place, and thus have attachment to it.

I have more on this subject in a diary called "Towards an Economic Revolution" where I try and explain how the wealthy elite went from favouring protectionism to favouring globalism, and the liberals went from being anti-tariff to anti-trade.

In short, the people currently making a killin' don't want the music to stop.  


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take a look at Sri Lanka sometime (4.00 / 1)
majoritarianism != political decency all the time.  I lean towards what you're saying to some extent, but it's important to understand that under the wrong circumstances, majoritarianism can backfire in the worst ways and lead to horrendous consequences.  I'm saying this only to qualify what you're saying and temper it a bit, not to disagree with it altogether.

As for indigenous capitalists going from favouring protectionism to "free trade" (but no free movement of labor ;)...well that's what indigenous capitalists do in empire-building states :)  they only like to pretend there was no state involvement in, say, forcing people off the land, (i.e. primitive accumulation) after the fact.


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Forgive my ignorance, but (0.00 / 0)
it seems to me, observing from the UK, that one thing cries out for reform - the system by which amendments are attached to legislation as it passes through the Congress.

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but is seems as if there are few limits on the nature of those amendments (apart from procedural limits, first degree, second degree, etc).

This seems to mean that totally unrelated clauses, appropriations or new laws can be attached to any bill. Thus, a very unpopular but relatively minor piece of legislation can get through because it becomes successfully attached to a much more important bill; no-one wants to vote against the major part of the bill, so the minor amendment becomes law.

Maybe I'm wrong about the prevalence of this practice, but it does seem to be one of the chief activities of lobbyists - to hunt for uncontroversial bills and then attach their preferred minor measure to that bill.

How exactly one goes about reforming that practice - I haven't the foggiest, procedurally.

However, the problem - the power of lobbyists - is surely one that could garber a lot of popular support, leading to the significant cultural change you are talking about.  


I'm not sure this is the case (0.00 / 0)
(Re: hidden nuggets in bills) Not in the way you describe anyway.  There have been problems with buried time bomb clauses and so forth in legislation, but I don't think this is so much an anti-progressive bias in the legislative process as a general problem of the complexity of the legislative process in a congressional system.  I guess any non-transparent governing is anti-progressive but a "bridge to nowhere" now and then are not particularly high on my list of core institutional problems needing correction.  

In parliamentary systems, strict party discipline ensures that bills proposed are generally controlled by the party leadership, most often the government itself since opposition parties rarely initiate bills that pass into law.

So the individual MPs are not really free agents to amend bills especially in committee which is where the really scurrilous stuff can be done quietly.  

Besides, there has been progress in this area in terms of transparency, I believe all earmarks must be listed by the name of the member of congress who added them.

The problem about limiting the types of amendments to bills is that it is a judgement call.  Is an amendment that adds money for policing in Oregon out of order to a national security bill?  Who decides?  A Parliamentarian?  The Speaker or Senate President?  I'm not sure how to implement this without actually grinding the legislative process to a halt and giving obstructionist republicans even more weapons with which to delay reform.

The power of lobbyists is a problem.  I'll give more thought to that, particularly when I write about the House and Senate.  I don't have a great single answer, as alas I can't claim to have solutions to all that ails us.


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Thanks for that (0.00 / 0)
thoughtful response.

How is it that lobbyists have such influence?
Are they mostly legally-trained (rather than having a background in finance)?
Do many lobbyists still spend a lot of their time writing legislation? Or is that now changing?

Maybe you can point me to some sources on this.
And thanks again.


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limited answers (0.00 / 0)
I do feel out of my element as this isn't something I've done extensive reading on.

My impression is that lobbyists have so much power because the congressional system makes it easier to buy off a few key figures.  In a parliamentary system, you essentially have to bribe the PM, which is a lot more expensive and the risk a lot higher of being caught.

In congress, power is distributed over many more hands and that lowers the bar for exerting improper influence on people who can get things passed into law.  

Also, as an MP your success in your riding has more to do with your party's fortunes than your own individual financial situation as a fundraiser.  Most citizens are just voting for the party so if they like Labour, they'll vote for whoever on their ballot is the Labour candidate.  In the US there is a lot more focus on the individual and a lot less party support for the people running for congress.  

My impression is that it's better now under the Democratic majority but not satisfactory.  The Telco lobbyists were evidently able to buy Sen Rockefeller (D-WV) on the subject of telecom immunity.  But they didn't buy off the House members clearly so it seems they have limits to their power.

Pelosi just arm-twisted the House into passing a pretty decent reform of the Ethics committee which might actually give it some teeth.  The vociferous and embarrassing opposition to the bill suggests it does.  

I don't have any great links to suggest.  Lobbying reform hasn't been a passion of mine.


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What kind of media reform? (4.00 / 1)
Very interesting post and comments.

While I agree that media is a fundamental part of the problem (and solution), I think its important to figure out what type of progressive media reform would be most effective in today's environment.

For example, is it feasible AND effective with regard to our goals to break up media conglomerates to the point that it would make a substantial difference in the content conveyed via broadcast and cable networks?  My guess is that we'd have to reallocate a lot of licenses to community-based groups to really make a difference.  

Would the positive impacts of a redistribution of licenses be magnified if the Fairness Doctrine was reinstated, and wouldn't this have to cover cable to have much of an impact (the original policy didn't cover cable)?  And would a return to the Fairness Doctrine really address the lack of substance in TV news and public affairs coverage?  And what about rules for renewals of licenses?  Do we need to have real "public interest" standards for renewal, and what would these be and how would they be implemented?

And what about a wholesale restructuring of our spectrum regime.  Would that be the best approach, and would it be feasible and timely to undertake in the near future?

And since what we know as "media" is migrating to the Internet, is it most important to insure open, high-capacity, available and affordable broadband networks?  If so, how?  Will network neutrality rules really accomplish this, or do we need "structural separation" (pipe owners control the pipes, but aren't allowed to offer services or content), as some are beginning to suggest?  Or is the best solution a national policy aimed at building high-capacity (publicly-owned and financed) open fiber optic and wireless networks that can serve as the 21st century equivalent of the 20th century public road network?  

Is it reasonable to assume that within some small number of presidential cycles, most Americans will be receiving most of their media via the Internet, and should our focus be mainly on expediting this transition and insuring that the Internet remains open, becomes even more accessible and affordable, and has the kind of capacity that can allow this transition from "old media" to "new media" to happen rapidly, gracefully and with major pro-progressive impacts?

Since any and all of these policy shifts are likely to face intense resistance from industry sectors with lots of lobbying clout, it seems wise to have them prioritized in terms of their value, and to also understand the linkages and interdependencies among them.

I've got opinions on much of this, as I'm sure others do.  It may be worth a focused and ongoing discussion to try to come up with some general agreement.


Media Reform (4.00 / 2)
Actually we have a nice Supreme Court Decision from the 1940's that might help us see the way clear for Media Reform.  The case was Lowes v. ?? -- but what it accomplished was to end the vertical integration of the Film Business.  Pre-Lowes, the Studios owned on the bottom end, the actor contracts, the writer contracts, and much of the copyright protected content in the form of "options" on what might become scripts.  Of course the Studio's owned their own hardware -- sound stages, technician contracts and all the rest -- but they also owned the national distributors and the first run movie houses.  The decision in Lowes required that this vertical monoply be broken up completely.  

I think it would be possible to apply the anti-trust theory of Lowes to the current situation in both Broadcast programs and Cable.  I would point out that Lowes followed on another decision from the early 40's that broke up the monoply in broadcasting -- Forced NBC to divest it's self of one of the two networks, (Red and Blue) creating both ABC and Mutual.  The court in this case set a standard for any radio listner being able to access content from all networks, in all states, and with this added to the fairness doctrine of the times, the result was far more local ownership of stations with franchise rights to only one network.  Both of these anti-Trust rulings need to be studied carefully, because they are the history of successfully breaking up media monoply. Congress could probably follow these rulings in forcing the same process in today's media, and be on sound terms.  

We also need a contemporary standard for what is meant by Public Service Programs.  At the time of the above decisions, Public Service meant news and public affairs on the issues of the day.  It did not mean US Government ads about frying one's brains on pot.  It was expected that a license to broadcast included a significant commitment of broadcast time to News and Public Affairs, subject to the Fairness rules for making available many sides of issues. I think our question has to be, How do you re-state these old concepts of Fairness in essentially anti-Trust terms?  Congress can, afterall, easily amend the anti-trust laws to accomodate these ideas.  Much more direct and much easier than thinking Constitutional Amendments.  Likewise, Congress can do for New Media and the Internet what it did for FM in the mid 1940's -- adopt as policy a more or less hands off policy.  It was only when Congress stepped in in the late 50's or early 60's requiring all US sold radios to receive FM Signal, and all TV's to get UHF, that these bands became commodities in the license marketplace.  Before that, we got advertising free Classical Music in most venues on FM.

But New Media has major problems that also need a decent model.  Yes, you can use the net to read the Guardian or the English Language Indian Newspapers, but what we really don't have is the ability to invest in world-wide on the ground news gathering.  And we need more than one set of eyes on matters of importance that are not crisis.  Somehow we need to make the case for Americans having sophisticated global awareness, and a model that potentially can realize this.  It seems to me that since the major networks have, for all practical purposes closed down all foreign bureaus, and resorted to a parachute strategy, we have an opening to come up with something vastly better.  



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great commentary (4.00 / 1)
A quick summary of my thoughts for media reform:

1) Double PBS/NPR funding and put them on 5 or 10 year guaranteed budgets.  The CBC and BBC are just head and shoulders better in terms of journalism quality and intelligent analysis than any of the private market news organizations.  It's not a coincidence:  News is a market failure.

2) What if Journalists had to belong to an association like the AMA or a Bar, which had ethical standards that could be enforced?  There are well established journalistic norms, but the problem is they're mostly only well understood by journalists and not enforced even slightly.  So when a reporter grants a government official anonymity to spout pro-government propaganda, what is the consequence?  Obviously bloggers would need some thought in this scheme so as to not cripple them.  But if Journalism is a profession maybe it needs to have a self-regulating body as happens for many other professions.

3) What about a government funded NPR-like newspaper?  For all the new technology triumphalism, newspapers still drive the news cycle.  The 24 hour networks still decide what to cover based on what's in the newspaper.  Newspapers still do the bulk of the real news gathering.  

Your ideas about monopoly busting are compelling too.  I hadn't put much thought into reforming the business end.


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Freepress (4.00 / 2)
A great organization with great recomendations. One is the Low Power Community Radio Act, which I would encourage everyone to check out.

I support John McCain because children are too healthy anyway.

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Very Good Start (4.00 / 1)
I look forward to your future posts!

One other area that you didn't mention, but was brought up by a few commenters: we need major reform of the way people run for office and are elected. Money from the rich and powerful is much too influential. We need Clean Money Elections and tighter restrictions on lobbyists.

Also, a side note: if we had a stronger safety net in this country -- government-sponsored universal healthcare, free childcare, a stronger Social Security system, free college tuition -- then a lot of progressive energy would be freed up. Right now, a lot of people spend all their time just trying to survive. With a little more economic security, they could devote themselves to working on progressive change. These are all progressive programs we want anyway, but we should also recognize their importance to continued progressive change.

And one last point: I agree that the courts are somewhat immune from power elite control, but we still need to reform that system quite a bit. I don't see any reason that the President should be the person who appoints judges. Why doesn't Congress do this or elect a different person ("Judge Appointer") to do it? And given how long people live these days, wouldn't it be better to change "lifetime appointment" to "32-year appointment"? That would increase the court turnover a bit and reduce the number of senile judges. And why isn't there an ethics body that oversees judges -- at least some entity whose job is to publicize corruption?


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Setting an age limit for the Federal bench is a good call actually.  In Canada I think it's 75.

I guess my thoughts on appointments is that since the president already has to get his appointees past a semi-democratic body, perhaps the solution is simply to improve that body.

Even if we just find ways to improve how Senators are elected so the body isn't so old, white, rich and male we'll probably see an improvement in Judge quality.  

I'll say this, rejecting nominees shouldn't be so damn rare.

In Canada, the Prime Minister is theoretically unfettered as to his choice of nominees.  There is no confirmation process, he tells the Governor General who he wants, and she swears them in.  However, he's not truly unlimited as he is still responsible to parliament and subject to hostile questions in question period.  If a PM appointed a personal friend to the Supreme Court, there would be scandal.  So arguably the US system is ahead of that as at least there is a formal confirmation vote in an elected body.  

Finally,

Also, a side note: if we had a stronger safety net in this country -- government-sponsored universal healthcare, free childcare, a stronger Social Security system, free college tuition -- then a lot of progressive energy would be freed up.

This is very true, and conservatives know this too.  Look at Bill Kristol's health care memo from 1994.  The opposed UHC specifically because it would revitalize the Democratic party in the eyes of voters.  Policy only matters to them as it pertains to power.  That's why they enacted Medicare Part D, which is at root a social program.  Old people are too powerful for them, and they simply could not survive without giving them what they wanted.  

So I don't think we'll get those things without a fight, but of course that's not to discourage the effort.  It's all linked and there are no clear priorities: Everything is vital.  


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I'm really really really glad to see this post. (4.00 / 1)
I like long-term thinking...not that I have confirmation bias or anything.  Purely as a thought exercise, I think these issues are very interesting:

Two broad areas of engagement...

On content--I was surprised that you left out the judiciary altogether.  The Supreme Court is one of the most undemocratic institutions in the United States and, generally speaking, lags about a generation behind than the rest of the government in terms of policy outlook.  But more broadly, it's the least responsive and most literally minded branch of government...which one could argue is a good thing, but you'd still have to concede it's antithetical to any kind of moderately radical social change.

I was also surprised that you included the media.  Normally, I don't think of the media in terms of public domain, and I do think the separation of the media from the political process is important, even under a nominally radical government/governmental structure.  However, clearly there's been an erosion of those laws and safeguards that did exist to prevent homogeneity while at the same timem there have been moves to control the content of the media, so perhaps I'm a bit naive about exactly how distant the media in the U.S. has ever been separate from  power.

In general, more specifics would be nice--particularly since the issue at hand is not really progressivism vs. conservatism in an american sense but more specifically the rate and depth to which policy changes can be implemented (i.e. statism vs. what might be called legalism or liberalism)--i.e. what you're referring to as institutional bias.  It's interesting that people often assume that democratic change and social welfare programmes go together, but some of the first social welfare programmes were instituted by strong centralized (autocratic) states like Bismark's Germany.  So it's more a balance between statism and respecting individual humans for me than a coherent tie-up between the two.

On process--The nice thing about the American constitution is that it doesn't actually require amending at all to change it.  You can call a constitutional convention and scrap the whole thing.  I think a strong rewrite is in order, but it has to come at the end of a long, long process of change where that idea doesn't sound completely insane, but in fact, is simply the most radical of several ideas floating around.  I don't know if that's possible without some kind of structural crisis, but certainly getting as far as you can in that direction (e.g. the ERA was a nice thing, but not even close) is good.

Of course the problem is that the whole thing has a built-in bias which makes it more and more likely that you abandon your commitment to structural change the closer and closer you get to being able to implement policy change (which in and of itself takes a long time).  And at that point you get a whole swathe of people who are nominally radical but in point of fact quite dumb/conservative.  Not to mention that as long as the United States is in the rich portion of the world, almost ALL Americans will buy in to maintaining the current set-up (either because they're bought off, have "consented" to the ideological hegemony, or benefit themselves as members of capital/its friends).

It seems like sequencing would also be an issue--at least in terms of how this kind of programme would have to be presented (when in fact, it is, which is a long time from now, if at all...and i'm not optimistic).  For example, it's much easier to make a case against the Senate or Electoral College or the process of redistricting than to make a case for some sort of public restructuring of the House of Representatives or the Presidency.

Finally, is there a point at which you have to accept some vanguardism?  I'm not really sure how I would feel, but then I'm socially programmed not to support such a thing ;)  btw, you didn't come close to sounding marxist...i didn't see much about redistribution of wealth ;)


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Thanks for the thoughtful comment.  All the comments have been great actually.  I was kind of worried as sometimes this place attracts some hostile fire.


On content--I was surprised that you left out the judiciary altogether.  The Supreme Court is one of the most undemocratic institutions in the United States and, generally speaking, lags about a generation behind than the rest of the government in terms of policy outlook.  But more broadly, it's the least responsive and most literally minded branch of government...which one could argue is a good thing, but you'd still have to concede it's antithetical to any kind of moderately radical social change.

It absolutely is an undemocratic institution.  Perhaps I'm being inconsistent but I do believe in an appointed and generally unaccountable judiciary.  From what I can see about electing judges, it's worse than appointing them.  

As an institution though, I think the Courts are remarkably progressive.  They allow an individual citizen to challenge his/her government and sometimes even win and overturn an unjust law.  It's remarkable when you think about it.  

A lot of major progressive change only seems to come from the courts.  Roe V. Wade.  Gay marriage.  Miranda.  Often Judges force the system to stay true to itself by comparing the law in practice to the theory written in the constitution and calling them to account.  I don't know of a better mechanism to do that than unaccountable judges who have nothing to fear from an irritated public.  

This is not to say the US courts are not packed with some terrible people.  That's the unfortunate result of 20 years of Republican presidents and even 6 of 8 years of the Democratic one having a Republican senate blocking his nominees.   Alito and Roberts in particular should never have made it through confirmation.  Nor Thomas.  But that leads me back to fixing the Senate and Presidency rather than blaming the Judiciary for the bad judges the other branches have conspired to give it.


I was also surprised that you included the media.  Normally, I don't think of the media in terms of public domain, and I do think the separation of the media from the political process is important, even under a nominally radical government/governmental structure.  However, clearly there's been an erosion of those laws and safeguards that did exist to prevent homogeneity while at the same timem there have been moves to control the content of the media, so perhaps I'm a bit naive about exactly how distant the media in the U.S. has ever been separate from  power.

Yes, we do have to be careful about mixing media and government.  I'm not looking to create Pravda here.  But to say government has a "role" in ensuring a dynamic and vibrant adversarial press exists is simply a result of seeing that the market is clearly not doing so, and I don't know who else could.  I also draw upon my experience of seeing how excellent the CBC is and know that there are models for government to fund journalism without allowing the government of the day to warp it for its own gain.  PBS and NPR are too dependent on charity and that has opened them up to influence by the wingnut welfare groups.  If they had stable government financing they wouldn't have to kiss the ass of various right wing foundations by giving their phony scholars more airtime than they deserve.


It seems like sequencing would also be an issue--at least in terms of how this kind of programme would have to be presented (when in fact, it is, which is a long time from now, if at all...and i'm not optimistic).  For example, it's much easier to make a case against the Senate or Electoral College or the process of redistricting than to make a case for some sort of public restructuring of the House of Representatives or the Presidency.

My hope is that if the National Popular vote initiative succeeds in short circuiting the electoral college, that would be a benchmark and talking point fodder for further changes.  Being able to say "this nation has rejected the electoral college in favour of one person, one vote, that should extend to undemocratic institution X too" would be more powerful.  Part of the opposition to change is simply those that believe it to be impossible.  Having a victory would be a powerful counterargument to that.

Also, since I am proposing to start by attacking these things at a normative level, strange things can happen.  What if the Senate was viewed as simply less legitimate than the House?  If people viewed it as an undemocratic anachronism, the Senators themselves would feel pressured to play a less active role in policy setting.  The members of the Electoral college are not bound by any law to vote for the winner of their state.  They tend to be loyalists of course, but they are also kept in line by the strong norms and their own lack of legitimacy.  Similarly so for superdelegates, who can in theory vote however they want, but many have expressed reluctance to overturn the will of the voters (however perceived or defined).

Finally, is there a point at which you have to accept some vanguardism?  I'm not really sure how I would feel, but then I'm socially programmed not to support such a thing ;)  btw, you didn't come close to sounding marxist...i didn't see much about redistribution of wealth ;)

What is vanguardism?  Not a term I'm familiar with I confess.


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Thanks for the in-depth reply...not sure I can do it justice :) (4.00 / 1)
A lot of major progressive change only seems to come from the courts.  Roe V. Wade.  Gay marriage.  Miranda.  Often Judges force the system to stay true to itself by comparing the law in practice to the theory written in the constitution and calling them to account.  I don't know of a better mechanism to do that than unaccountable judges who have nothing to fear from an irritated public.

We don't have gay marriage, but setting that aside for a second :)  You're looking at it from a political perspective of a given historical moment, not a structural perspective.  Historically, the courts have played the role exactly as they are playing now and they did when those decisions were past--after you win EVERYTHING else then you get to pack the court with your politics and then that sits there for a generation while the elected government moves in the opposite direction.  You can make an argument that this is a good thing, but I would argue that there is nothing a priori that makes the court progressive (and you'll be able to see that over the next decade or two...i could quote you a million decisions like plessy v. ferguson or the dred scott decision etc., but that's not really the point here because ) and structurally it always functions behind the times.  And this is in addition to the bias that you have an exegetical tradition of reading the constitution as if it were the Bible (I mean that literally) etc etc.

But that leads me back to fixing the Senate and Presidency rather than blaming the Judiciary for the bad judges the other branches have conspired to give it.

This is fair.  Also your point on the media.  Living outside the U.S. currently, I can tell you that the public media where I am has its problems, but it much more closely resembles PBS in the United States than it does the corporate networks.  Then again, they show a lot of crap American programming, so I don't want to idealize it.

Part of the opposition to change is simply those that believe it to be impossible.  Having a victory would be a powerful counterargument to that.

Ooh...we're wading into some very old and important arguments here about social change :)  Personally, I agree in part that incrementalism can work, provided there's a commitment to radical change that's deepseated enough not to get taken over by victories.  I don't see that in the United States.  Vanguardism is a small party leading a mass mobilization which fundamentally overturns the existing system, which is why I raised the point.

What if the Senate was viewed as simply less legitimate than the House?  If people viewed it as an undemocratic anachronism, the Senators themselves would feel pressured to play a less active role in policy setting.

I think your notion of using more fluid norms than a rigid legalistic reading of "the law" would be a valuable thing to happen in the United States.  It might, in fact, be an ideal transition, given that a lot of what I was raising above is fraught with a lot of potential problems, whereas the steps that you're suggesting would be more palatable and evolutionary even if a more radical transofrmation were the ultimate aim.

On an aside, one thing that always gets me is that in countries where there actually is enough wealth to redistribute--like the U.S.--they don't and moreover it's rarely called for (and there are a variety of reasons for that in the u.s., starting with the systematic suppression of anything resembling a "left"), whereas in poor countries, there's an intense need for accumulation of wealth that makes it virtually impossible to engage in fully redistributive practices except to promote capitalist development.


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well about the length (0.00 / 0)
There was a great author who was rushed by his editor to submit a manuscript.  He rushed to finish it, and threw it on the editor's desk in disgust saying "here it is, if I had more time it would be shorter."

I'm not sure who that was but I'm definitely prone to the same malady.  It's too easy to write too much I find.

Your thoughts on the courts do give me pause.  I'll have to think about it, but for now I'll proceed with writing about the other fixes I've dreamed up.


On an aside, one thing that always gets me is that in countries where there actually is enough wealth to redistribute--like the U.S.--they don't and moreover it's rarely called for (and there are a variety of reasons for that in the u.s., starting with the systematic suppression of anything resembling a "left"), whereas in poor countries, there's an intense need for accumulation of wealth that makes it virtually impossible to engage in fully redistributive practices except to promote capitalist development.

Well the US does do wealth redistribution, just less than it used to and not enough of it.  Norway is a pretty good example though of a wealthy country managing to keep a vibrant left and strong social democratic state.

I'm reminded though of Paul Krugman's observation about the right's view on tax cuts (paraphrase):  When the economy is in trouble, we'd better cut taxes to stimulate.  When the economy is doing well, that's the worst time to raise taxes as it will kill the growth.  

Wash, rinse and repeat until your country resembles libertopia/Somalia.  To the extent your observation is true, it's by design of those with most to lose.


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oh i wasn't criticizing the length (0.00 / 0)
this part:

There was a great author who was rushed by his editor to submit a manuscript.  He rushed to finish it, and threw it on the editor's desk in disgust saying "here it is, if I had more time it would be shorter."

reminds me of what I always think about Robert Caro's Powerbroker :)  It's one of the few instances in which I would actually side with editors having more power :)


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